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[DiVaio]

I'm not sure Poch believed that was the case, mate:
"Pochetinno said at the end of July that the club ought to change his job title back to coach from manager as he was in the dark over transfer activity? “I am not in charge and I know nothing about the situation of my players,” Pochettino said. “Sell, buy players; sign contract, not sign contract – it is not in my hands. It is in the club’s hands and Daniel Levy’s hands.”"

And do you really believe in what he said? He was in our transfer commitee and had a final say. He said that the same as he said that we needed rebuild - so know our fans thinks he shouldn't go because he KNEW, not that he shouldn't try that rebuild harder.

 

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And do you really believe in what he said? He was in our transfer commitee and had a final say. He said that the same as he said that we needed rebuild - so know our fans thinks he shouldn't go because he KNEW, not that he shouldn't try that rebuild harder.

If you're asking me if I believe Poch was telling the truth, then yes. Absolutely. As for the rest of your post I have no idea what you're on about.

 

[nedley]

Yes. That much is common knowledge.

What I'm asking is where the "information" that Levy "blew the deal" by haggling over £4m came from?

It's just a rumour. And not a very credible one at that given that the great majority of info that we have had suggests that it was Lo Celso that we were after all the time and that Fernandes was only either a backup option or a stalking horse.

There is no way that we were going to sign Ndombele, Lo Celso AND Fernandes. Especially within one season.

So who replaced Eriksen is what I want to know.

 

[DiVaio]

So who replaced Eriksen is what I want to know.

Bergwijn

 

[Inq]

I’d say shit will hit the fan when Kane gets sold but then some of our strange fan base would be behind the sale lol

Don’t think anyone is behind selling him. Think the majority can just understand the frustration he must be feeling and potentially pushing him to leave to a club who matches his ambition right now because Levy has made it quite clear we do not.

In that case I’d expect ENIC to make the most of the money we would get for him and rebuild with it. Not that it worked very well with the Bale money. Catch 22 tbh - Need a DOF

 

[SecretLemonadeDrinker]

Our scouts were piss poor for years, we had no coherent transfer strategy, and the relationship between Levy and his manager deteriorated completely.

I'm not sure that that's true. Less than a year before he was sacked, Poch was still periodically singing Levy's praises, telling the media that Levy deserved any success coming Spurs' way and talking about the good relationship that they had. I don't think it was entirely for the sake of flattery.

For what it's worth, my impression is that Poch was very frustrated by Levy rather than that he didn't respect him, didn't like working for him or didn't get on well with him. I think they parted on good personal terms and were both sad that it had come to an end.

That's why, when people talk hopefully about Poch possibly coming back to Spurs one day, it doesn't seem like such an improbably wild pipe dream.

 

[JayB]

I'm not sure that that's true. Less than a year before he was sacked, Poch was still periodically singing Levy's praises, telling the media that Levy deserved any success coming Spurs' way and talking about the good relationship that they had. I don't think it was entirely for the sake of flattery.

For what it's worth, my impression is that Poch was very frustrated by Levy rather than that he didn't respect him, didn't like working for him or didn't get on well with him. I think they parted on good personal terms and were both sad that it had come to an end.

That's why, when people talk hopefully about Poch possibly coming back to Spurs one day, it doesn't seem like such an improbably wild pipe dream.

Perhaps it was an overstatement on the whole. I was referring to the 2018 summer window, in which it was supposedly the case that Poch put his foot down and demanded that he be given his first-choice players or none at all. We weren't able to secure de Jong or de Ligt, which was understandable and can't really be put down to Levy, but it meant that we wound up with no one.

My feeling on it is that Poch would not have been so stubborn if he'd had a healthy working relationship with Levy. It seems that years of poor recruitment squandered any trust between the two of them and led Poch to issue an ultimatum that proved to be self-defeating. We can't know exactly what happened behind the scenes, but that's my speculative read on the situation based on the general picture that's been painted by ITK.

Whether they ultimately repaired the relationship (there was that infamous dinner at the end of August this past summer) is a separate issue from what the status of the relationship was at the crucial moment in 2018.

 

[hutchiniho]

Who is responsible for securing the naming rights deal? Genuine question
We have the finest stadium in all of Europe with a direct link in to the US sports market and we still haven’t landed a deal.
Even before Covid this had Well over a full year to be signed off
Does this come down to Levy again? Buy (occasionally) as low as insanely possible and sell at vastly inflated prices.
Reports say we expect 25m a year for 10years. Just for the stadium name
I really don’t think our valuation teams live on the same planet as everyone else.
No wonder we still don’t have this tied up.

Arsenal £200m for name and shirt sponsorship
City £400m for both. (And Just (Nearly) £2m a year said to be for the actual stadium naming)

now we have £320m agreed with AIA
So that again clearly shows the bulk of sponsorship is for the shirt
How can we expect another £250m for just the naming rights ?
And then not have that name in the shirts For that too.
City £400m Spurs £570m ! Laughable

Safe to say our naming rights income atm is Zero!

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Poch had more control at this club than any manager since ... Levy takes all sorts of blame, just tired of this airbrushed version that people trot out about Poch.

How can you disagree or dislike this statement when it's true?

Some of you are genuinely, belligerently blind when it comes to this sort of stuff.

Either become more pragmatic or explain why you disagree. It'd be hard to disagree when fact is fine thing.

 

[rossdapep]

So Everton are threatening to beat us to the signing of Hojberg by paying cash up front.

It's both tragic and amusing that Levy said we'd never spend silly because the PL money spinner would at some point burst and in turn we'd be in a better position than most if something happened.

Well I'd say were sat in the middle of an event that had the potential to do just that, yet the likes of Everton and Chelsea are planning to continue spending whilst we are cowering and saying we won't be buying. Levy had most of us fooled and made us believe that we'd beat teams to players as we would be financially secure in comparison.

I'm not listening to another word that comes out of his mouth. Neither should any of you.

 

[nedley]

Bergwijn

Hmmmmm.

 

[LeParisien]

Levy said we'd never spend silly because the PL money spinner would at some point burst and in turn we'd be in a better position than most if something happened.

Not doubting you - just wondering where you heard this.

 

[buckley]

As far as spending goes what must be remembered is that for either a club being rich because their history has dictated that they have massive amounts of followers clubs like United and Liverpool and this makes them rich enough to not be affected by cv19 problems
You then have the clubs that are owned by either Russian oligarchs or uber rich Arabs with untold wealth this being Chelsea and Man City
But now you have the newly rich clubs who have owners with almost limitless cash to spend like Wolves and Everton and Leicester even the Sheffield United owners are now richer than we are ref owners soon to be joined by another club to be owned by a country Newcastle .
That makes 8 clubs in a better position financially .
The face of football at the top has changed forever gone are the days when you earned your financial security via success on the field of play or by prudent management (spurs ) . Unless you can find some person or country that wants a football club as a play thing or as a means to
Sportswash their credibility which in the case of the Arab owners is just the very tip of human rights violation regarding payment to workers or safety regulations which seeing as these workers that are treated so badly are mostly asian from the poorest parts of India; China ;North Korea ;Thailand and the rest of the poor from sin country . Of course this is exploitation and also Racism but seeing as Racism in todays climate seems to be selective . Note Raheem Sterlings stance on racism but he is quite happy to ignore his paymasters racism like I say selective racism . I have just realised I am rambling on and on so I had better shut my gob .

 

[DiVaio]

So Everton are threatening to beat us to the signing of Hojberg by paying cash up front.

It's both tragic and amusing that Levy said we'd never spend silly because the PL money spinner would at some point burst and in turn we'd be in a better position than most if something happened.

Well I'd say were sat in the middle of an event that had the potential to do just that, yet the likes of Everton and Chelsea are planning to continue spending whilst we are cowering and saying we won't be buying. Levy had most of us fooled and made us believe that we'd beat teams to players as we would be financially secure in comparison.

I'm not listening to another word that comes out of his mouth. Neither should any of you.

Seriously? After one rumour from Daily Mail from unknown journos when the better source said we are confident of signing him. Especially that after KWP matches like yesterday this deal looks even more likely.

At this moment only club which did any deal is Chelsea spending money from Hazard and Morata.
Not sure where you read that we won't be buying, and crying over Everton spending where they're spending a lot of some time already and still can't improve at all is funny

 

[spursfan77]

Not that much wrong with this.



Show me the money!

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Not that much wrong with this.



Show me the money!

Hehe, he’s called Ladyman

 

[Drink!Drink!]

So Everton are threatening to beat us to the signing of Hojberg by paying cash up front.

It's both tragic and amusing that Levy said we'd never spend silly because the PL money spinner would at some point burst and in turn we'd be in a better position than most if something happened.

Well I'd say were sat in the middle of an event that had the potential to do just that, yet the likes of Everton and Chelsea are planning to continue spending whilst we are cowering and saying we won't be buying. Levy had most of us fooled and made us believe that we'd beat teams to players as we would be financially secure in comparison.

I'm not listening to another word that comes out of his mouth. Neither should any of you.

If we miraculously got to 5th and UCL qualification the briefings from the Levy office would be we don't need to spend, the existing squad is already good enough for top 4, don't expect any big transfer deals.

If we miss out on UCL a briefing will go out from the Levy office saying, not in Europe, need to cut back, don't expect any big transfer deals.

He has done this for so long I don't know why he would be surprised at the widespread scepticism now over anything he says to supporters.

 

[rossdapep]

Seriously? After one rumour from Daily Mail from unknown journos when the better source said we are confident of signing him. Especially that after KWP matches like yesterday this deal looks even more likely.

At this moment only club which did any deal is Chelsea spending money from Hazard and Morata.
Not sure where you read that we won't be buying, and crying over Everton spending where they're spending a lot of some time already and still can't improve at all is funny

Okay. I could be wrong to jump upon this regarding one rumour but it certainly sounds like we are not prepared (once again) to take a bit of a risk.

I'm not someone who has tended to make knee jerk reactions regarding the club in the past. So I believe when I react it's with justification.

The point is Levy has said in the past that the club will not be spending ridiculous money like other clubs because he believes that the bubble will burst and he is unwilling to put the club in a precarious position from overspending. He used it as a reason when asked "Would the club be spending now that we are CL regulars?" or words to that effect. Ok, fine, quite sensible even if I don't fully agree.

But now we are in that situation and SHOULD be in a healthier situation than most clubs (we can't use the stadium right now but it WILL draw in big profit once we get back to normality) yet the sounds are once again that we'll be scrimping and scraping the market when it seemed like we'd be stronger than others in this situation and be able to at least continue buying, not particularly in a lavish way but quality additions in the region of 30-30m. Nothing silly.

It's just another excuse after another. Boy who cried wolf in some aspects.

Anyway, let's see what the club do. I'm not optimistic about it but better to wait.

 

[rossdapep]

Anyway. I'm not going to keep moaning about it. nothing we can do will change the way they operate.

Now, Levy and Jose need to manage the situation like Jose did in his second season at Inter.

He spent €89.05 million
But brought in €97million.

So they actually made a profit and went on to win.

They actually made smart signings and be fitted from Barcas desire to have Ibra and throw in money at the same time.

Milito - 13m + two players
Motta = 4m plus a player
Lucio = 7.85m
Sneijder = 18m
Mariga = 2.5m
Arnautovic = undisclosed

Plus a few frees.

Using player swaps and free transfers they were able to improve their squad and do great things.

The obvious problem is that it's difficult to repeat this and also today's climate may be more challenging. And of course getting Etoo plus 20m for Ibra was a masterstroke that probably won't be repeated nor would we want to sell someone like Kane to get it done.

 

[Albertbarich]

Everton have a lot of money, if they want him they will outbid us.

Not sure if he would choose them over us but they're owners want to be challenging fast and there seems to be a lack of FFP to stop them now.