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WhiteStripe

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It beggars belief how Levy gets such little venom in here and in general. He didn’t build a stadium. He didn’t design a stadium. He helped to find the funds for the stadium. He didn’t even deliver it on time. He did however fail to invest in two transfer windows believing the squad was sustainable as it was.
 

WhiteStripe

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when we are in a financial position, and then don't buy players for a window

the only reason that we had a lean 10 seasons was down to playing in a small stadium. with building the stadium how did you expect them to spend ridiculous amounts of money, to then pay not only the new signings wages but also up the wages of every other player?
Do me a favour!
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Honestly I've had enough of this argument. He's been I charge for our longest period without trophies, he hires and fires the managers and buys the players.

When do you start questioning the man at the top? Genuine question.

Because eventually the buck has to stop with him.
I've been asking this for ten years and never had a proper answer so don't hold your breath.
 

Lighty64

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ENIC will never ever change their way they run the club! Let us just accept that please. I can’t see it in my lifetime

but they spent in the summer, and invested in January something they don't do to often. why not see what happens 2 or 3 seasons down the line if the income is coming in
 

Lighty64

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Do me a favour!

Well, tell me what money we had to spare over that time? or the annual figures would have shown them nicking the income instead of putting it towards the stadium. they paid 450m off of the stadium and other than 1 season at Wembley when we were getting cracking crowds week in week out when at home which resulted in record profits ONCE. in the 36k stadium for 9 years 1 with only 28k how the fuck do we make profits of more than 45m per season?
 

Dillspur

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when we are in a financial position, and then don't buy players for a window

the only reason that we had a lean 10 seasons was down to playing in a small stadium. with building the stadium how did you expect them to spend ridiculous amounts of money, to then pay not only the new signings wages but also up the wages of every other player?

I have never asked for ridiculous amounts, what I want is the money spent on the right players at the right time. Levy has simply not done this and we are in a massive hole that is going to be hard to get out of, without spending a ridiculous amount.
 

WhiteStripe

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serious question to those saying Levy must go. How are you going to do that?
I don’t think there is a cat in hell’s chance we can ensure it happens but we can certainly be vocal about our feelings.

The smug little prick sits there in his ivory tower believing that we give a shit about bottom filling beer glasses and the world’s longest bar. He believes he’s some kind of god in the eyes of fans, worshipped for all he has done.

I would say hit him where it hurts. In the wallet. But it would not make any difference as he’s covered that already with the sheer number of tourists at the stadium nowadays.
 

fortworthspur

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TBH, we dont need a "total rebuild" to compete. We need players healthy, for Ndombele to get his shit together and maybe 3 new.
 

fortworthspur

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I don’t think there is a cat in hell’s chance we can ensure it happens but we can certainly be vocal about our feelings.

The smug little prick sits there in his ivory tower believing that we give a shit about bottom filling beer glasses and the world’s longest bar. He believes he’s some kind of god in the eyes of fans, worshipped for all he has done.

I would say hit him where it hurts. In the wallet. But it would not make any difference as he’s covered that already with the sheer number of tourists at the stadium nowadays.
Hasnt worked at United in terms of getting rid of the owner. And at least Levy has the club on very solid financial ground.
 

Dillspur

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TBH, we dont need a "total rebuild" to compete. We need players healthy, for Ndombele to get his shit together and maybe 3 new.

I think we need more than 3. RB, LB, striker another forward in the Son mold and some beef in midfield, not only that, but at least 3 NEED to be players for now, not a Gedson type signing.
 

Lighty64

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I have never asked for ridiculous amounts, what I want is the money spent on the right players at the right time. Levy has simply not done this and we are in a massive hole that is going to be hard to get out of, without spending a ridiculous amount.

Ok either all the ITK were lying or it was Levy's fault we never bought in 2018.

so if ITK are right, and we tried to buy those players good enough to keep us going, and the players said NO, or the selling club say NO, or the selling club say YES, but for 10-30m more, but it affects what you do have to spend, what do you do?

if you needed 2 new cars, but the finances only stretch to 1 because the sellers won't lower their prices what do you do?
 

M.I.B.

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Is there anyone else out there who is struggling to work out where exactly the problem lies?

Let's be honest: ENIC/Levy, Mourinho, insufficient squad, bad luck with injuries?

All of the above are opinions. All the pundits views on TV/radio.....just opinions.

There is probably an element of all those things in our current demise, but I really don't know that one thing solely is to blame.

Personally (opinion) I think getting to last years CL final was the worst thing that could have happened, because it happened when a few players had really peaked. Had we not made that final, I suspect 1 or 2 more may have moved on. But of course Levy, almost understandably, saw us get to the final and thought we could do it again. Poor judgement.

But still, I honestly am at a loss to say exactly where the blame lies.
 

SirNiNyHotspur

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Ok either all the ITK were lying or it was Levy's fault we never bought in 2018.

so if ITK are right, and we tried to buy those players good enough to keep us going, and the players said NO, or the selling club say NO, or the selling club say YES, but for 10-30m more, but it affects what you do have to spend, what do you do?

if you needed 2 new cars, but the finances only stretch to 1 because the sellers won't lower their prices what do you do?
Lighty do you ever stop talking your horseshit excuses? You ramble on like you have something personal to gain in your noble defence of ENIC, I've long stopped arguing with you about any of your nonsense as I realized it was futile. Do yourself a favor mate and give over, ENIC couldn't give a fuck about you either, just the size of your wallet...

Vote Trump 2020 (joke btw lighty)
 

Dillspur

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Ok either all the ITK were lying or it was Levy's fault we never bought in 2018.

so if ITK are right, and we tried to buy those players good enough to keep us going, and the players said NO, or the selling club say NO, or the selling club say YES, but for 10-30m more, but it affects what you do have to spend, what do you do?

if you needed 2 new cars, but the finances only stretch to 1 because the sellers won't lower their prices what do you do?

We'll never know what really happened that summer, I like most have a theory, but I do think Poch has to take some blame, if he can't get his first choice he has to have a viable alternative, but again we've seen what Levy's alternatives are and they usually go out on loan a couple of times before being sold.

Ultimately making 1car work is easier than not having any.
 
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