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Lighty64

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Levy and Lewis couldn’t give a fuck about actually competing for titles. They care about top 4 and profits. We’re the new Arsenal but didn’t see any of the trophies or titles.

I meant to add did he drop Moura for a unmatch fit Kane?

if they are only bothered about top 4 why do we get to finals or semi's? surely it would be better to put the kids out o out early and keep the players fresh
 
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I'm not going to come in here and stamp my feet.

A lot of those who post in here or have posted and we have debated about Levy and investment will know I have tried to air on the side of caution, some will say I am on ENIC/Levy's side and it's not true.

On saying this, today was another notch on the bedpost for those keeping score of the underwhelming lack of investment in this squad previous to the last two windows, and thus is catching up on us. It furthermore pushes home the point of the lack of striker in the January window and how key that is now proving to be.

Come the summer, change has to happen. I doubt by change I mean ENIC/Levy will suddenly sell up - but that doesn't mean that other things can't change.

Our scouting needs an overhaul. Maybe we saw the seeds of it in the winter window, I don't know, but we need to be far clearer in our approach in the Summer than the one previous. This team is creaking badly.
 
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Tricky one. No one is more frustrated than me with the lack of investment when we really needed it to kick on on more than one occasion, and in recent times we have seen a promising young squad who were on the verge of something very special turn into the average mess we have seen today in a relatively short amount of time, but otoh everytime I go to the new stadium I am truly thankful. However they clearly need to change in the way they do business on the playing front. Carry on like this and the natives will turn restless very quickly, I think this season is pretty much a write off and I've accepted that, the summer is massive and will tell us everything we need to know, I said we needed about 8 players last summer and I was laughed at by some of my mates but I think I was spot on, we've added ndombele, lo celso, sess, beigwyn, godson, so that's 5 , and we need a minimum of 5 more. Centre half, 2 full backs on either side, a defensive midfielder and a back up striker of suitable quality. Need to shift loads of dead wood as well, wouldn't be upset if half of the squad was sold to be honest. Bit of a mess isn't it
 

buckley

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The real lack of net spend is going to cost them dear as it seems Anywhere in the top 7 is way beyond us but if by some minor football miracle Jose gets us into the champions league then that would be great for the fans but I don't think so because there must be some kind of rethink on team investment otherwise . we are going to be a middling club and will suffer all the loss of money due to lower attendances less merchandise sales and less TV revenue and so on it could be a catastrophe . They will lose more than if they had gone that bit extra and signed the players we all know they could have but did not have the will to pay a little more Gealish/Dybala/Fernandes/And a striker .
I will still be there no matter what but I know more than a few who are disillusioned and will not pay top dollar prices for season tickets for a 2nd rate outfit .
 

buckley

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All this "levy is spending more " does that make up for spending little or in one case nothing in the transfer windows in the previous 2 years .
 

nailsy

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Everyone keeps talking about how this new stadium is vast money maker well all I would like to know is why Levy did not Effing well spend some of this vast amount of money on a striker ?

Maybe they couldn't find one the manager actually wanted? Should we just buy anyone, or someone Jose wants? Whoever we sign gets at least a four year contract unless you can secure a loan deal which is what we were trying to do in January.

Great stadium / Great training ground / great at making money / Pity about the team otherwise everything is great .
I said it before sometimes you have to try to that extra inch . We apparently owe 6oo million well in the way the payback is set up why not add 100 million on to that and we could be sitting here with Grealish / Dybala / Fernandes / I am not saying that the 100 mill would pay for these three players but added to what we had offered we could have pushed all three over the line .
I am saying a one off time go that bit extra . Because from their own mouths they thought they were on their way to us but the deals fell thru and all for a few mill here a few mill there peanuts in todays football finances .
That is not to say gamble every transfer window as we would be in financial trouble I am saying in the position we were in a one off "go the extra inch " and we would be in a lot healthier place than we are now .
Oh I forgot and a striker to play alongside our only striker or in his place if god forbid your only striker gets injured .
Levy does not need to be replaced he needs to have a rethink because Jose needs help and this failure to take a chance could cost him big time regards to gate receipts because football history tells us all there will be a big fall off in attendances it may even occur this season .

We couldn't borrow more money. It's been hinted at buy the ITKs.

What is the point in spend £100s and £100s of millions of pounds on world class stadium and training facilities which set fans expectations very hight but then completely neglecting to invest on the actual product (the team) who these facilities are built for and ultimately what us fans pay the money and put a passion into supporting! It’s not the fucking stadium we support it’s the club the players but all we keep hearing from the Bsodl is we can’t blame him as he had built us the stadium. yes it’s an amazing stadium and yes he deserves a lot of credit for this and the training ground. This doesn’t change that facts that on the football side of things over Enic/ Daniel Levy tenure everytime we seem to be within touching distance of glory and winning trophies something goes Wrong or bad decisions have been made which pushes us back as a club.

We don't instantly see the financial benefits of moving into the new stadium. It was always going to take at least one full season.

Basketball, hockey and baseball all play more games than that.

Two of those aren't contact sports.
 

Graysonti

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Dont buy the tickets !

If they are not putting the product on the pitch, tell them to lump it. Those ticket prices we expect two strikers for a start.

Let Levy stand in the stadium on his own.
 

hakano

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I'm not going to come in here and stamp my feet.

A lot of those who post in here or have posted and we have debated about Levy and investment will know I have tried to air on the side of caution, some will say I am on ENIC/Levy's side and it's not true.

On saying this, today was another notch on the bedpost for those keeping score of the underwhelming lack of investment in this squad previous to the last two windows, and thus is catching up on us. It furthermore pushes home the point of the lack of striker in the January window and how key that is now proving to be.

Come the summer, change has to happen. I doubt by change I mean ENIC/Levy will suddenly sell up - but that doesn't mean that other things can't change.

Our scouting needs an overhaul. Maybe we saw the seeds of it in the winter window, I don't know, but we need to be far clearer in our approach in the Summer than the one previous. This team is creaking badly.
Slowly waking up ?
 

hakano

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that was including bonuses that stretched over quite a few seasons, he doesn't get that every season

No, he just sees the value of the club increase tremendously. He’s making money like no tomorrow every single day.
 

nailsy

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All this "levy is spending more " does that make up for spending little or in one case nothing in the transfer windows in the previous 2 years .

No. I hate this constant Poch versus Levy debate because both are partly to blame. Levy didn't sign anyone. Poch didn't identify a player within our budget for him to sign.
 

hakano

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It maybe could have if we weren't building this giant £1B infrastructure in N17 or you just gonna ignore that?

LLevy has never spent this much money before in January...please keep up.

Sorry mate but we hadn’t spent money for ages which we were led to believe was being used for the stadium. Also let me know what the 600M debt is for?
 

Lighty64

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Basketball, hockey and baseball all play more games than that.

well looking at the NBA the only teams that play more are teams at the top, some teams only played 12 matches, and what is it 4 quarters of 15 mins with continuos subs/replacements and when the season finishes they go on to play a comp for their country and have a whole 2 week break over a 2 year period DO THEY?

Baseball might have more fixtures but other than running between bases isn't the most strenuous and physical of sports.

only Hockey is most probably more strenuous but once their season is over it is over.

I bet you had more holiday than our main bulk that was involved, and I expect your exercise for the day would be picking up a pen.

if you don't think the WC was an effect I suggest you put me on ignore because you haven't a clue
 

Lighty64

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Sorry mate but we hadn’t spent money for ages which we were led to believe was being used for the stadium. Also let me know what the 600M debt is for?

The 600m debt is for building the stadium which went up big time after Brexit
 
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