ENIC...

[fishhhandaricecake]

Interesting that Jose is going by the rhetoric that we need to sign players not just to solve the problems now but also for the future. Is he actually intending on staying for a good while to see the fruits of his labour and our signings over a few windows, similar to Klopp at Liverpool or is he just doing the best he can and like Poch toeing the party line. Naturally it is good if the club are buying players like Bergweign who like Jose said "he is good for now but he is also good for the future" but fact of the matter is we got ourselves into this mess by going into the season with no back-up striker. Now we will run Son and Moura into the ground just like Kane was before him.

Spurs are so frustrating, on one hand we do something positive but then on the other hand we don't do what we really need to do.
Its like telling someone off who then buys your flowers to say sorry and that they've learned what they did wrong but then the very next day repeating the same thing they did to upset you. We won't win anything with a player recruitment strategy that we have at the moment, i'm pretty fuming we couldn't find some sort of stop gap striker even for the rest of this season. Goodbye top 4 and fa cup. We better seriously sort the squad out for jose next summer or if not then I hope the knives come out for ENIC finally.

 

[yido_number1]

And which club is that? Certainly not The Spurs where most of us support. I do not know who you support. Also saying that the club needs to move forward, what evidence do you have that they are not? Things do not happen in a day or to suit your particular agenda or schedule. Signing Ballotelli, Giroud and Llorente etc does point to long term squad management, contrary to what you say, as they would only be temporary solution, until we get the striker that would fit into our future plans. Also contrary to what you believe, we did have a squad to that did compete and should have won the league, but did not happen due to circumstances. Its all well and good to sit and criticise the Clubs Management as an armchair chairman, without knowing crucial facts and having no knowledge of what goes on behind the scenes (this is aimed at others like thinking fans as well). Tired of reading this type of shit

You are such a blinded Daniel Levy supporting business fan you forgot this club used to actually win things. If Llorente et al were long term squad planning why did we weaken the squad by letting him go. Why did we need to resign Vorm when we let him go. We are a business not a sporting club any more. We are an investment vehicle for Enic and they are just about maxed out on what they wanted to achieve.

If we had any ambition we wouldn't be in such a dire condition now where the squad is walking wounded and the thing most business THFC fans are celebrating is selling one of our best players for 20m instead of letting him go for free in the summer. We just let our best left back go out on loan and haven't replaced him and we've run our biggest asset into the ground because we are too tight and lack the foresight to sign a back to releave him.

 

[dudu]

From the outside we are a top club but in reality levy is skimping on staff both players and physio's etc etc it has to be improved or we will not improve.

Dude, pretty sure Comolli was saying that about us in 2014, he is saying the opposite about us now.

 

[WiganSpur]

No matter who the coach is and how well they are doing (Redknapp, Villas-Boas, Pochettino, Mourinho) it always feels like they're in a constant battle with the board to get even basic reinforcements to improve the squad. Why should it need to be this way?

The club structure and culture is rotten to the core. From top to bottom, from the pitch to the boardroom we need to be a fucking team. The recruitment and negotiation staff working with the coach, supporting and trusting their footballing expertise as opposed to working against them. It's why Liverpool have motored ahead of us in the last few years, but we're still in denial about our situation.

 

[13VanDerBale13]

Let down yet again, which means we won’t reach our objectives this season & a rebuild is needed in the summer, can we count on one ? I think history tells us no

 

[dudu]

Let down yet again, which means we won’t reach our objectives this season & a rebuild is needed in the summer, can we count on one ? I think history tells us no

Let down how?

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Dude, pretty sure Comolli was saying that about us in 2014, he is saying the opposite about us now.

That's great if so but I know people working for the club so I can say unfortunately whilst we have improved in these aspects its still not where we should be.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

You are such a blinded Daniel Levy supporting business fan you forgot this club used to actually win things. If Llorente et al were long term squad planning why did we weaken the squad by letting him go. Why did we need to resign Vorm when we let him go. We are a business not a sporting club any more. We are an investment vehicle for Enic and they are just about maxed out on what they wanted to achieve.

If we had any ambition we wouldn't be in such a dire condition now where the squad is walking wounded and the thing most business THFC fans are celebrating is selling one of our best players for 20m instead of letting him go for free in the summer. We just let our best left back go out on loan and haven't replaced him and we've run our biggest asset into the ground because we are too tight and lack the foresight to sign a back to releave him.

Agree 100% the squad management and player recruitment is a f****** disgrace, has pretty much been the case for the last 20 years under Levy.
He's got us to where we need to be with the infrastructure now f-off and let football people run the club.

 

[dudu]

That's great if so but I know people working for the club so I can say unfortunately whilst we have improved in these aspects its still not where we should be.

Quite obviously there is still room for improvement.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Interesting that Jose is going by the rhetoric that we need to sign players not just to solve the problems now but also for the future. Is he actually intending on staying for a good while to see the fruits of his labour and our signings over a few windows, similar to Klopp at Liverpool or is he just doing the best he can and like Poch toeing the party line. Naturally it is good if the club are buying players like Bergweign who like Jose said "he is good for now but he is also good for the future" but fact of the matter is we got ourselves into this mess by going into the season with no back-up striker. Now we will run Son and Moura into the ground just like Kane was before him.

Spurs are so frustrating, on one hand we do something positive but then on the other hand we don't do what we really need to do.
Its like telling someone off who then buys your flowers to say sorry and that they've learned what they did wrong but then the very next day repeating the same thing they did to upset you. We won't win anything with a player recruitment strategy that we have at the moment, i'm pretty fuming we couldn't find some sort of stop gap striker even for the rest of this season. Goodbye top 4 and fa cup. We better seriously sort the squad out for jose next summer or if not then I hope the knives come out for ENIC finally.

I would say that this window is probably better than I expected given its Jan, we got Bergwijn and Gedson while taking the option on Lo Celso and getting rid of Rose, Eriksen etc.

The issue is that we failed for about 2-3 years maybe due to the stadium project or whatever to fully support the team. In the end it cost Pochettino his job as the fall guy and left us a huge rebuild that is only partially complete. This window as a stand alone is quite good but in the context of our requirements still short. I can see both sides to this debate from the anti and pro ENIC viewpoints.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

I would like Levy to appoint a DOF now in anticipation for the summer. Set down a proper strategy and scouting network

 

[southlondonyiddo]

We needed a:

Left back
Defensive Midfielder
Centre Forward

We still need a:

Left back
Defensive Midfielder
Centre Forward

Good work chaps

 

[samsonlevi]

We needed a:

Left back
Defensive Midfielder
Centre Forward

We still need a:

Left back
Defensive Midfielder
Centre Forward

Good work chaps

Do we?
Left back = Davies and sess

Defensive midfield = yes agree

centre forward = really depends on Parrot, is he good enough to be back up next year?

my areas of focus for the squad are:

defensive midfield
Right back
Centre back

centre forward (as explained above) depends on parrot and his development.

 

[Shadydan]

Let down how?

The only thing that's been let down is fans' over expectations.

 

[Bulletspur]

You are such a blinded Daniel Levy supporting business fan you forgot this club used to actually win things. If Llorente et al were long term squad planning why did we weaken the squad by letting him go. Why did we need to resign Vorm when we let him go. We are a business not a sporting club any more. We are an investment vehicle for Enic and they are just about maxed out on what they wanted to achieve.

If we had any ambition we wouldn't be in such a dire condition now where the squad is walking wounded and the thing most business THFC fans are celebrating is selling one of our best players for 20m instead of letting him go for free in the summer. We just let our best left back go out on loan and haven't replaced him and we've run our biggest asset into the ground because we are too tight and lack the foresight to sign a back to releave him.

And you are so blinded in hating ENIC / Levy that you seem to have a common sense and rationality by pass. How the hell is the bolded bits above Levy's fault? Most fans, media and the like were wax lyricalling about our squad and performance 2015 to 2019 where it was expected we would win a trophy with this particular squad. We didnt, Levy gets blamed and the culpable person Poch gets a free pass. To blame Levy for Poch's mistakes, shortsightedness and his suspect game management is akin to blaming him for employing Poch in the first place. If for example Levy had decided to keep Lloriente against Poch's wishes (where it now quite obvious that we need him now), you probably would be the first to criticize him for not backing his Manager. To me it seems that he is damned if he does and damned if he doesnt, he just cannot win

ENIC / Levy have done wonders for Spurs, but I will be the first to say that they have cocked up big times on occasions. But it looks like most on here seem to beat ENIC / Levy with everything that goes bad at the club, without acknowledging their positive efforts, and not apportioning any blame where they correctly should.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

But it looks like most on here seem to beat ENIC / Levy with everything that goes bad at the club, without acknowledging their positive efforts, and not apportioning any blame where they correctly should.

It doesn't look like that to me. At all. OK, apart from one or two fanaticals, the vast majority (that I've seen) are criticising whilst bearing in mind the good stuff. I'm not sure I've seen many people at all not at least acknowledge Levy's positive contribution. As for apportioning blame, I suppose that's a bit subjective, we don't get to pick and choose what people decide to moan about. If only we did..........

Sorry Bullet, I think you're falling into the same trap as one or two of the opposition so to speak by over egging stuff, I guess we all do that when we get frustrated, we all say stuff that isn't correct and I don't doubt that were the true facts to ever come out, all of us would be incorrect somewhere, about something, within this whole thing.

 

[Ossie85]

Do we?
Left back = Davies and sess

Defensive midfield = yes agree

centre forward = really depends on Parrot, is he good enough to be back up next year?

my areas of focus for the squad are:

defensive midfield
Right back
Centre back

centre forward (as explained above) depends on parrot and his development.

I think some of you are expecting too much of Parrott. He's only 17 years old. 17!

 

[Vincent30]

As a fan i do get frustrated being the 'nearly men'.

But i really struggle with the logic and outrage by some about not getting a striker. I think it's common knowledge that finding a good striker at anytime to buy is really hit and miss. Especially in January, bigger clubs than us didn't get one. If there was an option, for example if Werner or Haaland were actually realistic for us then, yes, i too would be disappointed. But, let's be real here, we had 0% chance of signing those two and who else out there actually got people excited. We don't want to just buy any old striker. That's ridiculous.

We get some young legs in the middle of the park in Gedson, we tied down Lo Celso and we got some much needed pace in our forward line at an absolute steal of a price.

We also got a few out of the door that was needed.

So okay, not 10/10 but definitely around 8/10 and a good job all round.

I'm very excited for the summer, Jose isn't a cheap skate manager, Levy isn't thick. They have spoken and he has joined and there is a plan in place.

We will have money in the summer, with the pull Jose has to get players in and with our growing reputation, i'm excited with how the transition has started and these younger players we are bringing in.

Add to this a top class DM, full back and back up striker. Which are absolute musts.

Possibly a CB, GK. We are looking really strong and youthful with much needed pace being added to the team and players who are technical enough to not get a nose bleed when a player closes them down.

It's taking shape, ok some would want this to happen faster, but don't ignore the good work that's going on because we didn't sign two complete unknowns in Willian bloody Jose and Piatek or whatever his name is.

 

[degoose]

It doesn't look like that to me. At all. OK, apart from one or two fanaticals, the vast majority (that I've seen) are criticising whilst bearing in mind the good stuff. I'm not sure I've seen many people at all not at least acknowledge Levy's positive contribution. As for apportioning blame, I suppose that's a bit subjective, we don't get to pick and choose what people decide to moan about. If only we did..........

Sorry Bullet, I think you're falling into the same trap as one or two of the opposition so to speak by over egging stuff, I guess we all do that when we get frustrated, we all say stuff that isn't correct and I don't doubt that were the true facts to ever come out, all of us would be incorrect somewhere, about something, within this whole thing.

it does to me, it's constant complaining and saying levy spends no cash even though spurs have spent over 150 mill since the summer. If you then read on twitter there is constant moaning about how little money we supposedly spend, get levy out and levy is cheap. Even the striker situation there are so many who just wanted anyone even if they were crap and not suited to the team. Everyone is a manager these days and can do better than professionals it seems.

 

[sausage]

I would say that this window is probably better than I expected given its Jan, we got Bergwijn and Gedson while taking the option on Lo Celso and getting rid of Rose, Eriksen etc.

The issue is that we failed for about 2-3 years maybe due to the stadium project or whatever to fully support the team. In the end it cost Pochettino his job as the fall guy and left us a huge rebuild that is only partially complete. This window as a stand alone is quite good but in the context of our requirements still short. I can see both sides to this debate from the anti and pro ENIC viewpoints.

I mostly agree here, except Poch was the architect of his own demise. 2019 started with him basically leaving mentally when he started getting smoke up his rump from all quarters over the Man U job.

Almost identical to Redknapp with England, except I think Poch went a step further by throwing out a lot of cryptic stuff about leaving.