Eddie Howe = Gone

[TheChosenOne]

 

[Gareth88]

Which premier league team does he join?

 

[TheChosenOne]

The first team to sack their manager in October

 

[Gareth88]

The first team to sack their manager in October

Palace would be a good fit imo

 

[dk-yid]

The first team to sack their manager in October

Us?

 

['O Zio]

Never rated him as much as some seem to. Shame he never got the arsenal job when he was being touted, would've been a disaster IMO. Doesn't surprise me he's left, he looked like he was at his wits end for most of the second half of the season.

 

[Montalbano]

My guess is he is appointed to one of Palace, West Ham or Newcastle during the upcoming season.

 

[Gareth88]

My guess is he is appointed to one of Palace, West Ham or Newcastle during the upcoming season.

West Ham is a very good shout

 

[C0YS]

Never rated him as much as some seem to. Shame he never got the arsenal job when he was being touted, would've been a disaster IMO. Doesn't surprise me he's left, he looked like he was at his wits end for most of the second half of the season.

That's incredibly harsh. What Howe did was incredible at Bournemouth, I really don't think people understand the achievement that was. Bournemouth were a club with no right to be in PL to begin with, yet alone stay there the years they did.

The job he did was incredible, and he might be a hit in a big club, it's hard to know because he hasn't really been given the chance. His CV reads much better than Lampard and solskjaer who were a better clubs but failed to achieve anything close to what Howe did. But top team managers might not be so good at managing worse teams and visa versa. But he definitely deserves a chance.

In the end, they run out of steam and they made a few poor transfers. Some of their players are on higher wages then they should be, but their wage bill was in the end more or less in line with performance. But 5 consecutive seasons in the top flight, including a 9th place finish, considering when how took over they were in a relegation scrap at the bottom of league 2, 17 points from safety, Howe turned that club around and in 5 seasons (taking out his 1 and a half year holiday at Burnley) he got them into the PL, and another five there.

The guy should be incredibly rated, though there are doubts whether he would work well in a top level club, because he is most probably the best football league manager in his generation, while also being able to do something pretty special in the top flight as well. The guy deserves a lot of respect, because he basically did that thing where you take your local club in football manager and take them to the PL, but, like for real.

 

[joey55]

Around here he'd definitely be a popular choice as our head scout.

 

[richard_gleeson]

That's incredibly harsh. What Howe did was incredible at Bournemouth, I really don't think people understand the achievement that was. Bournemouth were a club with no right to be in PL to begin with, yet alone stay there the years they did.

The job he did was incredible, and he might be a hit in a big club, it's hard to know because he hasn't really been given the chance. His CV reads much better than Lampard and solskjaer who were a better clubs but failed to achieve anything close to what Howe did. But top team managers might not be so good at managing worse teams and visa versa. But he definitely deserves a chance.

In the end, they run out of steam and they made a few poor transfers. Some of their players are on higher wages then they should be, but their wage bill was in the end more or less in line with performance. But 5 consecutive seasons in the top flight, including a 9th place finish, considering when how took over they were in a relegation scrap at the bottom of league 2, 17 points from safety, Howe turned that club around and in 5 seasons (taking out his 1 and a half year holiday at Burnley) he got them into the PL, and another five there.

The guy should be incredibly rated, though there are doubts whether he would work well in a top level club, because he is most probably the best football league manager in his generation, while also being able to do something pretty special in the top flight as well. The guy deserves a lot of respect, because he basically did that thing where you take your local club in football manager and take them to the PL, but, like for real.

Incredible job to get and keep Bournemouth in the premier League, but not for spurs. Made 3 poor expensive signings: Ibe, Solanke and Billing. The core of his team are still the originals from the beginning. Unbelievable achievement though.

 

[Tucker]

Sometimes coaches and clubs just click, and Howe clicked with Bournemouth, until this season that is. I think he’ll end up at another mid table club before long. Palace isn’t a bad shout, I can see Hodgson calling it a day soonish. Don’t think West Ham will sack Moyes unless they start really badly, Bruce has done a good job at Newcastle, and the likes of Everton and Arsenal have recently changed managers too. I can’t see anyone above mid table hiring him, aside from maybe Leicester if the Rodgers effect takes hold next season. Wolves would likely go with another Portuguese coach If NES left given their structure.

There aren’t many obvious prem jobs available (or soon to be available) right now.

 

[nailsy]

No surprise really as he looked like he'd run out of ideas towards the end of the season.
He deserves a shot at another premier League club, but I can't see any of the top clubs sacking their managers and taking a chance on him. I could see him going to West Ham or Newcastle though.

 

[Montalbano]

Don’t think West Ham will sack Moyes unless they start really badly

Moyes hasn't lasted for an entire calendar year at a club since his Everton stint ended in 2013. If history repeats itself, he'll be gone by December 29th.

 

[C0YS]

Incredible job to get and keep Bournemouth in the premier League, but not for spurs. Made 3 poor expensive signings: Ibe, Solanke and Billing. The core of his team are still the originals from the beginning. Unbelievable achievement though.

The thing is none of those players were for over 20 mill, and that's the thing. they are expensive for Bournemouth but not for most teams.

He had hits as well with signings in the top league. Brooks, Ake, Lewis Cook, Ramsdale, King to name a few.

And while the core of the side is similar to the one that got promoted to the PL. Very few remain from the side that got promoted into the championship. Only Simon Frances, Steve Cook, Harry Arter, Charlie Daniels, Matt Richie and Ryan Fraser had any sort of PL impact and Ryan Fraser barely played. Meanwhile, not a single player remains from when Howe first joined the club in league 2.

So, it's not since the beginning but, yes, few PL transfers really moved them up a level. But, even their big signings are not that much money for any top half PL side. I think, in a way, when Howe could actually sign 'better' players he struggled a bit, falling into the trap of bringing in names that were highly rated but unproven and overpaying for that. Works in football manager, not in real life!

Yeh, I think he would be a big risk for any top team, he is completely unproven there. But, he could also be very successful, it's impossible to really tell and big clubs are risk adverse for a reason. Mind, if he was German or something I reckon people would view the way he set up his teams (often in a way that made them easy to play through) a little bit kinder and more part of a broader philosophy, rather than treat it like a sign of naivety.

But my main point isn't that he could be a success in a big club, it's that if anything Howe is still incredibly underrated. Not based on speculating how he might do in a bigger club, but based on what he has actually achieved. What he did at Bournemouth is an exceptional feat of management and one that would be hard for any manager to replicate, it's something Guardiola and Mourinho probably wouldn't have been able to do. But, similarly, Howe probably wouldn't be able to do what they did. Because just like certain players are a good fit for a certain type of club, the same goes with managers.

 

['O Zio]

That's incredibly harsh. What Howe did was incredible at Bournemouth, I really don't think people understand the achievement that was. Bournemouth were a club with no right to be in PL to begin with, yet alone stay there the years they did.

The job he did was incredible, and he might be a hit in a big club, it's hard to know because he hasn't really been given the chance. His CV reads much better than Lampard and solskjaer who were a better clubs but failed to achieve anything close to what Howe did. But top team managers might not be so good at managing worse teams and visa versa. But he definitely deserves a chance.

In the end, they run out of steam and they made a few poor transfers. Some of their players are on higher wages then they should be, but their wage bill was in the end more or less in line with performance. But 5 consecutive seasons in the top flight, including a 9th place finish, considering when how took over they were in a relegation scrap at the bottom of league 2, 17 points from safety, Howe turned that club around and in 5 seasons (taking out his 1 and a half year holiday at Burnley) he got them into the PL, and another five there.

The guy should be incredibly rated, though there are doubts whether he would work well in a top level club, because he is most probably the best football league manager in his generation, while also being able to do something pretty special in the top flight as well. The guy deserves a lot of respect, because he basically did that thing where you take your local club in football manager and take them to the PL, but, like for real.

"Incredibly harsh" is a bit strong. All I said was that I don't think he's quite as brilliant as some seem to think he is. That doesn't mean I don't think he's a decent manager.

It's obviously been great for the club to come flying up the league's from where they were, but it's hardly the Cinderella story people make it out to be given the financial backing they've had.

All in all he's done a good job with them in the premiership but I don't think he's the Arsenal/England etc. level manager that he was being touted as a couple of years ago. He's taken Bournemouth as far as he can and has moved on, which might be best for him. Like I say he looked absolutely at his wits end this season so it might do him good to take some time off for the sake of his own health.

As for OGS and Lampard I obviously have various opinions about them but I'm not really sure what that has to do with anything

 

[dontcallme]

He did a fantastic job at Bournemouth and while they made a few dud signings in recent seasons they have also had some good successes.

Howe kept them in the Prem for several seasons while playing the type of football that better clubs will be interested in.

For some reason though, I think he'll fail at another job.

 

[sausage]

Never rated him as much as some seem to. Shame he never got the arsenal job when he was being touted, would've been a disaster IMO. Doesn't surprise me he's left, he looked like he was at his wits end for most of the second half of the season.

I used to think it was unrealistic on things like Football Manager, how you could single handedly get successive promotions on a shoestring all the way up to the PL, and then have fans get upset if you drew a game. It's things like this that remind me it's realistic.

The fact that they stayed in the PL for 5 seasons with a tiny stadium and no off-field investment is remarkable. He's basically taken the hit for a badly run club, when he should realistically be unsackable for all he's done for them.

 

[nailsy]

I know net spend has to be taken in context, but they've spent £176m in the last five years which is more than Liverpool, Chelsea and Leicester. It's pretty much the combined total for us and Palace.

Possibly all it tells us is that they didn't have many valuable assets to sell and that they needed to spend a lot to catch up with other teams, but I imagine it will be a concern for anyone thinking of hiring him.

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

I didn’t rate him as highly as some, but if he came
To us we’d play more attractive football - probably lose more too, but would be entertaining