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Nick-TopSpursMan

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Hence Neto, yes?

For sure but if we sign Neto presumably he will primarily play on the right?

I would imagine Eze would play a mix of LW and CM.

We MIGHT be able to get away with heavier positional rotation on the left if we sign a strong 1v1 player like Neto for the right but if we don’t then the issues I spoke about will significantly hinder us imo.
 

Blaugrana

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I don't see any world in which putting in Dragusin over Porro can be a good thing tbh
I'm not sure many City fans would have thought starting Akanji at full back over Cancelo would have been a good thing but it's a move that led them to a Treble. I don't think it's outlandish to suggest these sort of tweaks to give us more balance.
 

N'Obody

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If Ange really wants him, then who am I question what he's planning. Surely he's got something up his sleeve to adapt his system to have both Neto and Eze integrated into it.

Atm it seems like we could possibly switching to a double 10 system with 6 sitting there. Just a guess really, but it would make sense with the players we have. Could see Bentancur and Bissouma as the 6s based on who we have available.

The 2 10s, we could have Maddison, Eze, Deki, potentially a youngster in Donley or Moore for a 4th choice.

Out on wide we would have a mix of Werner, Son, Neto and Johnson. Uptop Richy and possibly a new signing.

All guess work but based on who we have currently and who we are linked with, it seems to point to a change in system potentially.

Edit: also seen Ange like Garner at Everton who can potentially play that 6 role too.
 

Dunc2610

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For sure but if we sign Neto presumably he will primarily play on the right?

I would imagine Eze would play a mix of LW and CM.

We MIGHT be able to get away with heavier positional rotation on the left if we sign a strong 1v1 player like Neto for the right but if we don’t then the issues I spoke about will significantly hinder us imo.
I don't disagree but the reality probably is, with homegrown players required, budget etc etc...that we can't have it all.
 

kendoddsdadsdogsdead

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At the end of the day Udogie and Eze are both good, smart players. They can make it work if they were down that side together imo. They wouldn’t just run into each others spaces.

if you have good 1 v 1 ability and your beating people on the inside you’re still disrupting the other teams defensive lines. You’re drawing them out and creating gaps. It’s not as if Eze will be stationary in the middle. He’ll start wide and then drift in.

Give me that, than someone who occasionally goes on the outside and dribbles a cross with the weaker foot into just an area ala Werner or someone similar.

Udogie can keep more width when the space is there. There’s no reason he couldn’t do that here. It’s not like Trippier who’s completely right footed. It would be completely natural for him. I think Udogie is great in the defensive and middle thirds when he drives infield and his powerful ball carrying is great in those positions but in the final third I think he flatters to deceive a little as it’s more about sharp movements, drop of the shoulder, quick feet and balance. Think being very left footed Actually made it hard for him in those condensed areas and play fizzled out for him quite often in those spaces. looked much better when he occasionally went on the outside in the final third last year as it looked more balanced for him

The real issue is their off the ball work. They both can switch off when out of possession. That’s the concern imo.
 

THFCSPURS19

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I'm not sure many City fans would have thought starting Akanji at full back over Cancelo would have been a good thing but it's a move that led them to a Treble. I don't think it's outlandish to suggest these sort of tweaks to give us more balance.
I'm not sure I agree that's why they won a Treble.
 

funkycoldmedina

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You think so Nick? You haven't mentioned it before.:whistle:
I imagine Nick at work giving a PowerPoint to the team "and in conclusion a 1v1 technical dribbler will help us achieve our target" or reading a book to his kid at night "and the evil dragon was finally banished forever by a highly technical 1v1 winger“
 

Styopa

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But not buying a 1v1 winger reminds me of going years without a proper AM, or a new CB. We have a habit of letting these chronic issues fester. Then, when we do something about them, we usually have another issue to address, like buying Maddison but selling Kane. I'm not saying it will be the same this time, but we have previous with this kind of thing.
 

the yid

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But not buying a 1v1 winger reminds me of going years without a proper AM, or a new CB. We have a habit of letting these chronic issues fester. Then, when we do something about them, we usually have another issue to address, like buying Maddison but selling Kane. I'm not saying it will be the same this time, but we have previous with this kind of thing.
Why are people so pent up on needing a 1 v 1 winger? The major issues are ST and DM. We crate chances we can't score and we don't have any protection for the defence to help the leaky defence. A 1v1 winger isn't an essential and a preference more than a necessity
 

vegassd

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But not buying a 1v1 winger reminds me of going years without a proper AM, or a new CB. We have a habit of letting these chronic issues fester. Then, when we do something about them, we usually have another issue to address, like buying Maddison but selling Kane. I'm not saying it will be the same this time, but we have previous with this kind of thing.
I think the same can probably be said about the vast majority of teams across the world.

My personal take is that we want to have a squad of players that are capable of winning games. There are plenty of combinations of that which don't include a "tricky winger".

As often happens, people have their own view about what Ange is/should be doing, and apply their own opinion about what players are required for that, and in what balance of HG/non-HG or budget allocation. There's nothing wrong with that - we're chatting shit on a footy forum after all - but there is a tendency to let these things get blown out of proportion and before you know it there's a "chronic issue" that is "festering" at the club. It's a bit much.

Ange has said he's not sucked into the 6/8/10 thing. I'm sure he would be able to manage Eze and Maddison in the same squad, with or without a new winger, and with or without Son in the starting lineup. And we still have Solomon on the books, so I imagine Ange is weighing up him as an option as well.
 

Styopa

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I think the same can probably be said about the vast majority of teams across the world.

My personal take is that we want to have a squad of players that are capable of winning games. There are plenty of combinations of that which don't include a "tricky winger".

As often happens, people have their own view about what Ange is/should be doing, and apply their own opinion about what players are required for that, and in what balance of HG/non-HG or budget allocation. There's nothing wrong with that - we're chatting shit on a footy forum after all - but there is a tendency to let these things get blown out of proportion and before you know it there's a "chronic issue" that is "festering" at the club. It's a bit much.

Ange has said he's not sucked into the 6/8/10 thing. I'm sure he would be able to manage Eze and Maddison in the same squad, with or without a new winger, and with or without Son in the starting lineup. And we still have Solomon on the books, so I imagine Ange is weighing up him as an option as well.

Fair points, and maybe you're right. But my main point was that we've been here before.

I'm not saying this is a chronic issue. We won't know that until the end of the window and how we play next season. But I think issues, like not replacing Eriksen for years and only buying one first-team CB in six years, were chronic issues, and we were worse as a team for not addressing them sooner.
 

Styopa

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Why are people so pent up on needing a 1 v 1 winger? The major issues are ST and DM. We crate chances we can't score and we don't have any protection for the defence to help the leaky defence. A 1v1 winger isn't an essential and a preference more than a necessity

I'm not pent up about it, but I do think it's something we're missing. It's not just about creating chances, it's about intelligence and ball retention in the attacking third. At the moment it seems like we have lots of runners in attack but we give up the ball quickly, which puts pressure on the defence. I agree we also could do with a new striker and DM.
 

mil1lion

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We did sign Soloman but it just didn't work out with his injuries so it's not like we haven't signed one
 

felmani26

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Why are people so pent up on needing a 1 v 1 winger? The major issues are ST and DM. We crate chances we can't score and we don't have any protection for the defence to help the leaky defence. A 1v1 winger isn't an essential and a preference more than a necessity
No, we struggled massively to create openings against low blocks routinely.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Fair points, and maybe you're right. But my main point was that we've been here before.

I'm not saying this is a chronic issue. We won't know that until the end of the window and how we play next season. But I think issues, like not replacing Eriksen for years and only buying one first-team CB in six years, were chronic issues, and we were worse as a team for not addressing them sooner.

Gio was the Eriksen replacement lol. Problem is we then employed managers who weren't interested in a number 10 type as their main mode of creating chances was through counter attacking.
 

Styopa

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No, we struggled massively to create openings against low blocks routinely.

I think most teams struggle against a well-organised low block, to be fair. But when Maddison is not playing well, we lack a bit of craft in those situations. Werner, Son, Richarlison and Johnson have many qualities, but they're not players with huge amounts of guile. They're mainly runners/pressers. They're not particularly great with the ball, and when teams sit back we struggle and are vulnerable on the break.
 

djhotspur

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I think the same can probably be said about the vast majority of teams across the world.

My personal take is that we want to have a squad of players that are capable of winning games. There are plenty of combinations of that which don't include a "tricky winger".

As often happens, people have their own view about what Ange is/should be doing, and apply their own opinion about what players are required for that, and in what balance of HG/non-HG or budget allocation. There's nothing wrong with that - we're chatting shit on a footy forum after all - but there is a tendency to let these things get blown out of proportion and before you know it there's a "chronic issue" that is "festering" at the club. It's a bit much.

Ange has said he's not sucked into the 6/8/10 thing. I'm sure he would be able to manage Eze and Maddison in the same squad, with or without a new winger, and with or without Son in the starting lineup. And we still have Solomon on the books, so I imagine Ange is weighing up him as an option as well.
Not really… look at all the best teams in the world they have a lot of players elite in 1v1 situations. Champions league winning side has vini and Rodrigo, they’re adding mbappe, city have silva, foden and doku. You need those players for low blocks and to offer something different. City have also just bought savio another player in that mould.
 
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