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luRRka

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I have to admit that I don't think Solanke and Neto are going to strengthen us. Eze on the other hand would.

My biggest concern in our transfer dealings is that other teams - Villa, Wham etc. (whom we used to be above), are now strengthening their teams with material that are better in what we are bringing in. If this tendency is continuing we will steady be going backwards.
Neither team has brought in anyone close to as good as neto (if we get him) villa have weakened overall selling their best player. West ham are irrelevant. They will finish lower than they did under moyes as they will not play defensive football
 

hughy

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I have to admit that I don't think Solanke and Neto are going to strengthen us. Eze on the other hand would.

My biggest concern in our transfer dealings is that other teams - Villa, Wham etc. (whom we used to be above), are now strengthening their teams with material that are better in what we are bringing in. If this tendency is continuing we will steady be going backwards.
Mate if our signings were Fullkrug, Summerville, Kilman and Wan-Bissaka you'd be going berserk. :LOL:
 

HildoSpur

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Unpopular opinion maybe but i don’t see Eze, Solanke, or Neto making us any better challengers to winning anything without a top drawer defensive midfielder and better defending options that don’t leak goals like a sieve.
Id argue we have one of the best back fours in the league, arguably the best. Our defence isn't the problem, it was the midfield and us not having enough players that suit our system that caused the problem.
 

Basil Brush

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I have to admit that I don't think Solanke and Neto are going to strengthen us. Eze on the other hand would.

My biggest concern in our transfer dealings is that other teams - Villa, Wham etc. (whom we used to be above), are now strengthening their teams with material that are better in what we are bringing in. If this tendency is continuing we will steady be going backwards.
If you don't think Neto is going to improve us, I am not sure I can help you.
 

spursfan77

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Mate if our signings were Fullkrug, Summerville, Kilman and Wan-Bissaka you'd be going berserk. :LOL:

Yet they would all improve our squad, not the fist XI mind.

I'm assuming our aspirations (fans and manager) are to get as high in the league as possible. At the moment, they aren't being met this window and look miles away from being done so.
 

DannyNZ

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Id argue we have one of the best back fours in the league, arguably the best. Our defence isn't the problem, it was the midfield and us not having enough players that suit our system that caused the problem.
Midfield was an issue but I’d say our attacking three contributed A lot to our defensive issues. There inability to retain possession and gift it to the opposition was the start of a lot of our defensive issues. Midfield and attack needed strengthening and don’t really see Gray and Bergvall as near term improvements and our attack is basically unchanged.
 

Guntz

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I have to admit that I don't think Solanke and Neto are going to strengthen us. Eze on the other hand would.

My biggest concern in our transfer dealings is that other teams - Villa, Wham etc. (whom we used to be above), are now strengthening their teams with material that are better in what we are bringing in. If this tendency is continuing we will steady be going backwards.

There would be riots on here if we made the same signings West Ham have made this summer.
 

hughy

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Yet they would all improve our squad, not the fist XI mind.

I'm assuming our aspirations (fans and manager) are to get as high in the league as possible. At the moment, they aren't being met this window and look miles away from being done so.
That's the thing, we're not discussing squad players, we're discussing players who could potentially improve our starting 11. I think Solanke (mainly due to his availability over Richarlison) and Neto will improve our starting 11.

@blankom claimed that the likes of what West Ham are signing is stronger than what we're looking to bring in. I strongly disagree with that.
 

Styopa

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Id argue we have one of the best back fours in the league, arguably the best. Our defence isn't the problem, it was the midfield and us not having enough players that suit our system that caused the problem.

Agree, and agree with @DannyNZ. We're not press-resistant enough in midfield and our front 3 regularly lose possession, so we're vulnerable to counters. Worryingly, we have not really addressed those problems yet, unless Gray and Bergvall make an instant impact.

Eze, Neto and Solanke would all improve us in this respect imo. I would be concerned if we're starting the season with Werner/Son/Johnson leading the line.
 

spursfan77

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That's the thing, we're not discussing squad players, we're discussing players who could potentially improve our starting 11. I think Solanke (mainly due to his availability over Richarlison) and Neto will improve our starting 11.

@blankom claimed that the likes of what West Ham are signing is stronger than what we're looking to bring in. I strongly disagree with that.

Well, we havent signed any despite Ange saying numerous times we needed to. He's calm in interviews about it but he will know that it will be his job that is lost if he doesnt get them. I suspect behind the scenes he's probably livid we are looking at a similar attack as last season. One he complained about not being good enough multiple times. He hasnt been backed.

From A Gold's article yesterday:

"There’s always learning, I mean, I think one glaring thing about last year was just it was quite obvious we didn't have a squad that was equipped to handle the rigours of a Premier League campaign, particularly when you're trying to challenge and sustain some sort of level of intensity and competitiveness in the toughest league in the world," he said.

"It was obvious to me that if we had any setbacks along the way in terms of squad absences, we really felt it - probably more than some of the other teams, our competitors up there, so that was something that we've tried to [sort].
 

JonnySpurs

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Anges system will always concede goals. Defending starts with the attackers, so that’s why pressing players are important.
He is an attacking manager and as long as we score more goals and work hard then we are doing what he’s asked.

It also comes back to ball retention in the final 3rd. Son was absolutely awful last season for coughing up the ball either in, or around, the opposition box that would then lead to us conceding from quick counter attacks.

We need a proper number 9 and also wide forwards that are good at retaining possession because they are comfortable on the ball and can avoid sloppy turnovers
 

HarryTed14

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It also comes back to ball retention in the final 3rd. Son was absolutely awful last season for coughing up the ball either in, or around, the opposition box that would then lead to us conceding from quick counter attacks.

We need a proper number 9 and also wide forwards that are good at retaining possession because they are comfortable on the ball and can avoid sloppy turnovers
Absolutely agree!
 

blankom

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Neither team has brought in anyone close to as good as neto (if we get him) villa have weakened overall selling their best player. West ham are irrelevant. They will finish lower than they did under moyes as they will not play defensive football
Assuming you mean Douglas Luiz.? … whom they have replaced with Onana. Id prefer the latter.

also signed Maatsen, Illing-Junior among others
 

Cambridge Spur

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There would be riots on here if we made the same signings West Ham have made this summer.
Nah, we’d do our usual, going through the 5 stages of transfer grief, before collectively convincing ourselves that they were the greatest players to ever play the game.
 

luRRka

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Assuming you mean David Luiz.? … whom they have replaced with Onana. Id prefer the latter.

also signed Maatsen, Illing-Junior among others
No, I mean douglas luiz. Who is far far better than onana. Maatsen is good. Illing jr is not gunna get close to the 19 goal contributions provided by diaby. They've downgraded
 

blankom

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Mate if our signings were Fullkrug, Summerville, Kilman and Wan-Bissaka you'd be going berserk. :LOL:
So far we have signed Bergvold, Hyuk, Archie.

i like what Ive seen so far, but we still await to see how they will do in Prem.
 

blankom

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No, I mean douglas luiz. Who is far far better than onana. Maatsen is good. Illing jr is not gunna get close to the 19 goal contributions provided by diaby. They've downgraded
There we disagree.

having said that I hope youre right :)
 

JonnySpurs

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Absolutely agree!

Thanks, it's nice when we all get along.

On a serious note though, you only have to look at our current crop of Wide Fowards to see our issue for Ange's system:

Brennan Johnson - good player, fast, gets goals and assists but good in possession? Not so much
Heung-Min Son - better in possession out wide than at CF, that's for sure, but still has a tendency to commit turnovers
Manor Solomon - hard to say at this point with lack of mins but even if he is capable, not sure he has long term future at Spurs
Timo Werner - much like Johnson, perhaps slightly better with the ball but less likely to score

The one player we did have that was good at this is Dejan Kulusevski but he's no RW, at least not in Ange's system and will seemingly be a CAM or CF this season.

Beyond that, Mikey Moore absolutely looks to have the right profile for this but I'd rather he plays LW and right now I think he's more likely to see mins on RW behind Brennan, where he's not as confident IMO.........unless we can get Pedro Neto and/or Eze over the line 🤞
 

mill

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I watch a lot of Celtic, Matt O'Reilly is head and shoulders the best player in Scotland. He'll'' be around £16m to buy. The snobbery about buying players from the SPL makes me laugh, the standard of football might be shite but some quality players can still be found up there. I'd be delighted if we got O'Reilly.
Where would he fit into our midfield? I’ve no idea about him as a player
 
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