Daniel Levy wants to completely overhaul Tottenham with £228m masterplan

[mawspurs]

From a financial perspective, Tottenham are often considered the best run club in the Premier League.

When their commercial aptitude and long-term fiscal responsibility will yield a trophy is a matter for debate, but their business smarts are not in question.

Source: The Boot Room

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Web3 and Crypto mentioned in the article , sure that lost most people including me but if its a legitimate source of income why not. The last sentence in the article is misleading, it only applies to senior citizens or juniors putting their St on the ticket exchange as the seat would be sold at full adult price with the club crediting the ST with the appropriate rate and pocketing the difference.
If an adult ST in lower south stand standing puts their forthcoming Arsenal seat on the exchange the club don't resell it for double the £84 matchday price , it goes on the exchange at £84 plus booking fee and the ST gets credited £84 in their account.

“What tends to be the case is that, say you’re normally paying £60 per match as part of your season ticket, you can sell them back to Spurs for £60, and then they can sell them for £120.”


However, of all the so-called Big Six clubs, their brand is the least recognisable outside the UK

Another sentence from the article that is open to dispute, read elsewhere and you find that Spurs rank 8th in the world in front of Chelsea , so the brand must be well known, now who do you believe.

Real Madrid takes back the crown as world’s most valuable football club brand | Press Release | Brand Finance

Brand Finance data reveals the winning strategies as football clubs invest heavily in brand management to capture $40 billion global sponsorship market

brandfinance.com

 

[Johnny J]

Web3 and Crypto mentioned in the article , sure that lost most people including me but if its a legitimate source of income why not.

Crypto is a scam, that's why not. I'm all for us making more money, but we should do as ethically as possible.

@bungle4 thanks for that

 

[BENNO]

Crypto is a scam, that's why not. I'm all for us making more money, but we should do as ethically as possible.

Is crypto a scam ? I honestly don't know - i'm a middle aged bloke who has only ever used crypto (in my case bitcoin) to purchase an illegal feed so i could watch Spurs matches ! So to me it is dodgy but are there not lots of legitimate uses for it and are we just out of touch with the way the world works these days ? (serious question, i'd love to know)

 

[Johnny J]

Is crypto a scam ? I honestly don't know - i'm a middle aged bloke who has only ever used crypto (in my case bitcoin) to purchase an illegal feed so i could watch Spurs matches ! So to me it is dodgy but are there not lots of legitimate uses for it and are we just out of touch with the way the world works these days ? (serious question, i'd love to know)

Yes, crypto is a scam, as well as being terrible for the environment through the absurd energy levels needed to mine tokens. Web3 is total bullshit too.

A few links for you:

Cryptocurrency Is a Giant Ponzi Scheme

Cryptocurrency is not merely a bad investment or speculative bubble. It’s worse than that: it’s a full-on fraud.

jacobin.com

The Simple English Argument Against Crypto

Personal Blog

www.stephendiehl.com

Yes, Crypto is ALL a Scam

Personal Blog

www.stephendiehl.com

Bitcoin: The Postmodern Ponzi

Personal Blog

www.stephendiehl.com

Web3 is Bullshit

Personal Blog

www.stephendiehl.com

For a more detailed argument againat crypto:

The Complete Argument Against Crypto

Personal Blog

www.stephendiehl.com

 

[hutchiniho]

Just heard my first Kraken advert. It aired during the most recent FPL fantasy football scout podcast.
I love a disclaimer but this is my new favourite, “don’t invest unless you are prepared to lose ALL the money you invest”.
sounds like it’s more than likely you will lose All of your money.
Will continue to invest in Kraken rum with our Kraken not receiving my ‘free’ £10.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Is crypto a scam ? I honestly don't know -

Crypto accepted by reputable companies like Sotheby's , who also deal in NFT's non-fungible tokens, I'm all for getting sponsored by a NFT company , that should get a few going

Bidder’s Guide: NFTs and Cryptocurrency at Sotheby’s

1. Go to www.Sothebys.com and click ‘Log In’ at the top of the homepage

www.sothebys.com

 

[Cinemattis]

Web3 and Crypto mentioned in the article , sure that lost most people including me but if its a legitimate source of income why not. The last sentence in the article is misleading, it only applies to senior citizens or juniors putting their St on the ticket exchange as the seat would be sold at full adult price with the club crediting the ST with the appropriate rate and pocketing the difference.
If an adult ST in lower south stand standing puts their forthcoming Arsenal seat on the exchange the club don't resell it for double the £84 matchday price , it goes on the exchange at £84 plus booking fee and the ST gets credited £84 in their account.

“What tends to be the case is that, say you’re normally paying £60 per match as part of your season ticket, you can sell them back to Spurs for £60, and then they can sell them for £120.”


However, of all the so-called Big Six clubs, their brand is the least recognisable outside the UK

Another sentence from the article that is open to dispute, read elsewhere and you find that Spurs rank 8th in the world in front of Chelsea , so the brand must be well known, now who do you believe.

Real Madrid takes back the crown as world’s most valuable football club brand | Press Release | Brand Finance

Brand Finance data reveals the winning strategies as football clubs invest heavily in brand management to capture $40 billion global sponsorship market

brandfinance.com

There is a significant difference between "recognisability" and "value". As you hint to, there are obvious connections and correlations between the two, but they are not the same.

It is obvious to most that ManU & Liverpool are by far the two most famous and recognisable English clubs world wide. Their fanbase when you look at official (and unofficial) fan clubs in other countries and regions are several times larger than the next English clubs.

With success on the pitch, and especially combined with player profiles from certain countries and regions outside GB, the following and recognisability will grow. Thus it is not very hard to buy into the point of Chelsea, ManC and Arsenal beeing a more famous and followed brand than Spurs. If you go to Africa for example, you will see loads of kids (and adults) wearing a Chelsea shirt with Drogba on the back. Replica (fake or not) shirts from MU & LFC are found on every street and corner around the globe. Haaland is a global phenomenon and is probably a much more important booster for MC than say Kevin de Bruyne - it doesn´t matter who is the better footballer, the Haaland-factor is far more powerful marketing tool.

Equally, for Spurs over the last decade Son has been much more important than Harry Kane when it comes to "selling" the club and making it more recognisable in a world market.

Chelsea´s star power during the Abramovich era built a solid foundation for their world wide recognisability as a brand. If they or ManC now is the third best known English football brands I don´t know, but I would be very surprised if they are not the no. 3 and 4 on such a list. Arsenal´s best years during Wenger are now a faint memory in a world of "now", but had a solid base from those years. Too bad for them that they hit their peak before social media really exploded. They are probably the club of the top six we are closest to when it comes to brand knowledge and recognisability in a world market. What we lack to bring us closer to the very elite (RM, Barca, MU, LFC, PSG), would be to sign acknowledged global superstars (Mbappe, Haaland - which will never happen), or to win the PL and CL. Several times. That is a stretch - but still more likely than the former (signing superstars). We are in the top 10-20 because of our standing in English football and the most watched competition (PL), but we would need something extra to become even more known.

At the looks of it, Levy & co are maybe going down a third avenue. Keeping us relevant as a football team (decent results, playing in Europe, second tier "names"), but expanding the brand and name so that it´s more than just a football team. The home of Beyoncé, P!nk, Lady Gaga when in the UK; the links to F1: the preferred NFL arena in Europe/UK - with even the future possibility of being the home to an European NFL team. I wouldn´t be surprised if more is to come. A MGM casino in the future? Other sports?

I´m not saying this or that is better or worse, I´m just describing what I see. I´m of an age that I would prefer football to be what it once was - just football. But that age is gone.

I won´t diss Brandfinance, but I wonder why you don´t refer to the acknowledged and much more famous/well known Forbes list of the most valuable football teams?

The World’s Most Valuable Soccer Teams 2024

The average team is now worth $2.3 billion, a 5.1% increase from a year ago—despite headwinds in TV rights across Europe.

www.forbes.com

The 2024 edition has us no. 8; just in front of Chelsea, and a bit more in fornt of Arsenal.
Our revenue gives us the same eight position, but our operating income is second(!) - only beaten by MU:


Here´s a better link to the Forbes´ list as pictured above: https://www.forbes.com/lists/soccer-valuations/?sh=23707c62198b

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

I won´t diss Brandfinance, but I wonder why you don´t refer to the acknowledged and much more famous/well known Forbes list of the most valuable football teams?

The World’s Most Valuable Soccer Teams 2024

The average team is now worth $2.3 billion, a 5.1% increase from a year ago—despite headwinds in TV rights across Europe.

www.forbes.com

Only used Brandfinance as a guide as in the Boot Room article it was discussing brand value not the value of the club as a whole which Forbes seem to do at $3.2 billion for Spurs.
On the Africa issue in a recent interview Spurs director Jonathan Turner did mention Africa as an market that Spurs do need to tap in to.

PS Surveys everywhere about football , we are pretty high on the value charts and now we are more popular than Man U , whatever that actually means.

The most famous football clubs in the UK | Sport | YouGov Ratings

The most famous football clubs in the UK according to YouGov Ratings. Fame is based on millions of responses from the British public and YouGov's innovative survey methodology.

yougov.co.uk

 

[thebenjamin]

Yes, crypto is a scam, as well as being terrible for the environment through the absurd energy levels needed to mine tokens. Web3 is total bullshit too.

A few links for you:

Cryptocurrency Is a Giant Ponzi Scheme

Cryptocurrency is not merely a bad investment or speculative bubble. It’s worse than that: it’s a full-on fraud.

jacobin.com

The Simple English Argument Against Crypto

Personal Blog

www.stephendiehl.com

Yes, Crypto is ALL a Scam

Personal Blog

www.stephendiehl.com

Bitcoin: The Postmodern Ponzi

Personal Blog

www.stephendiehl.com

Web3 is Bullshit

Personal Blog

www.stephendiehl.com

For a more detailed argument againat crypto:

The Complete Argument Against Crypto

Personal Blog

www.stephendiehl.com

Wait until you read about the US dollar

 

[Johnny J]

Wait until you read about the US dollar

I didn't want to go off topic lol

 

[Cinemattis]

Only used Brandfinance as a guide as in the Boot Room article it was discussing brand value not the value of the club as a whole which Forbes seem to do at $3.2 billion for Spurs.
On the Africa issue in a recent interview Spurs director Jonathan Turner did mention Africa as an market that Spurs do need to tap in to.

PS Surveys everywhere about football , we are pretty high on the value charts and now we are more popular than Man U , whatever that actually means.

The most famous football clubs in the UK | Sport | YouGov Ratings

The most famous football clubs in the UK according to YouGov Ratings. Fame is based on millions of responses from the British public and YouGov's innovative survey methodology.

yougov.co.uk

Thanks for the reply, mate <3

 

[Gassin's finest]

Blockchain is a legit technology, and the concepts and potential for bitcoin etc are real... I've personally benefited from it.

But yes, the hundreds of crypto currencies and exchanges etc that pop up... Definitely dodgy. Promoting them is akin to pay day loans and all that shit.

Don't get into it unless you really really know what you're doing.

 

[Tony-Bish]

Is crypto a scam ? I honestly don't know - i'm a middle aged bloke who has only ever used crypto (in my case bitcoin) to purchase an illegal feed so i could watch Spurs matches ! So to me it is dodgy but are there not lots of legitimate uses for it and are we just out of touch with the way the world works these days ? (serious question, i'd love to know)

You could also do dodgy sh*t with cash

 

[Farmdog]

Crypto is a scam, that's why not. I'm all for us making more money, but we should do as ethically as possible.

@bungle4 thanks for that

It’s an investment avenue like all the rest. Only difference is bricks and mortar, and gold have been established for a long time.
people are doing very well out of it and some are, like a gold rush turning up unprepared with the lack of tools and skills to be able to make a living from it being manipulated out of a river plot of gold speckles for the bigger nuggets further down.

 

[jay2040]

Crypto is a scam, that's why not. I'm all for us making more money, but we should do as ethically as possible.

@bungle4 thanks for that

It's a new asset class , a risky one though I would not say its scam!

 

[SamR]

A lot of crypto is a Ponzi, but then the regular stock markets are highly manipulated with Algorithms, Short Selling and lots of trades not actually executed in a way to impact price.

Crypto isn’t going away, but it will consolidate over time and become more recognised as a Legitimate asset class.