Crooks criticises Aurier for displays up until Crystal Palace masterclass

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Former Tottenham Hotspur attacker Garth Crooks has been commenting on the performance of right-back Serge Aurier this weekend.

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He's a good right back but with many flaws in his game currently preventing him from being a brilliant right back. His biggest barrier to improving, however is his own sense of self-worth.

Having read the media reports of his (disparaging) comments about KWP and Foyth - if I was Pochettino I would not play him. But we don't know what's going on behind the scenes - he may actually get on very well with other members of the squad and be a decent influence (though I doubt it).
 

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He's a good right back but with many flaws in his game currently preventing him from being a brilliant right back. His biggest barrier to improving, however is his own sense of self-worth.

Having read the media reports of his (disparaging) comments about KWP and Foyth - if I was Pochettino I would not play him. But we don't know what's going on behind the scenes - he may actually get on very well with other members of the squad and be a decent influence (though I doubt it).
I choose to believe that his comments about 'no competition' were made tongue in cheek and with a bit of mischief in mind. However, the majority seem to have decided that it was a malicious attack on his team mates. It's all down to context and whatever slant the media (bless them) choose to put on it, and how much of it people choose to believe.
 
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He proved on Saturday what sort of level of performance he can produce. The trick is now to add consistency; do it week in, week out not just when it’s a big game or you’ve a point to prove.
 

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I agree with the above comments. It just remains to be seen if he retains his starting place once KWP is fit.
 

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Poch said It already. Consistency. Do we want a RB with an attitude like Emmanuel Adabayor or an attitude like Harry Kane. Both players can be brilliant but only one is worth keeping.
 

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Poch said It already. Consistency. Do we want a RB with an attitude like Emmanuel Adabayor or an attitude like Harry Kane. Both players can be brilliant but only one is worth keeping.
Who had the worse attitude Adebayor or Berbatov?
 

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Poch said It already. Consistency. Do we want a RB with an attitude like Emmanuel Adabayor or an attitude like Harry Kane. Both players can be brilliant but only one is worth keeping.
Are you saying Aurier has an attitude like Adebayor?
 

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Poch said It already. Consistency. Do we want a RB with an attitude like Emmanuel Adabayor or an attitude like Harry Kane. Both players can be brilliant but only one is worth keeping.
Lazy generlisation
 

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Are you saying Aurier has an attitude like Adebayor?
No. I have no clue what his attitude is like so I make the hypothetical reference to two players with contrasting personalities. I hope he's like Kane, at least from now on.
 

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I choose to believe that his comments about 'no competition' were made tongue in cheek and with a bit of mischief in mind. However, the majority seem to have decided that it was a malicious attack on his team mates. It's all down to context and whatever slant the media (bless them) choose to put on it, and how much of it people choose to believe.
Sorry, "the majority seem to have decided" is just hand-wringing bullshit. He said what he said. If he said that, it's disparaging, however tongue in cheek it was intended. It's just not what a professional does. (And I don't believe it was tongue in cheek, in the context of his comments it sounded a burst of unhelpful honesty – particularly poor form towards Walker-Peters, who he should be helping.)

And considering he was quite upfront about wanting to leave, I don't know why you'd choose to take the favourable reading for someone who should have the weight on his back of proving that he can actually take his job seriously for once.

Aurier has an enormous ego but hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt at all so far in most of his career. He has huge qualities but been inconsistent at best, injured a lot, a problem to manage and prone to unnecessary outbursts (at other clubs too), then randomly wanted to leave after all the "I want to put down roots" claims of joining.

TL;DR: Yay, he had a good game. Now shut up to the press and more of that please. He's never stayed at a club longer than 3 seasons tho and this is his third season.
 
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How was i generalizing exactly?
They're actually nothing like each other, I guess is the point.

Adebayor was incredibly focused, often on the wrong things, and quite a serious individual. Most of his beef with people was down to perceived misunderstandings and slights, and he stuck rigidly to his guns, for right or wrong, to the point of stubbornness and being driven by anger and a sense of injustice.

Aurier seems to hugely lack focus and be a bit silly.
 
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They're actually nothing like each other, I guess is the point.

Adebayor was incredibly focused, often on the wrong things, and quite a serious individual. Most of his beef with people was down to perceived misunderstandings and slights, and he stuck rigidly to his guns, for right or wrong, to the point of stubbornness and being driven by anger and a sense of injustice.

Aurier seems to hugely lack focus and be a bit silly.
I never pretended to have any clue about how Aurier is as a person. It was suggested in an article somewhere that he may have only played well to prove a point, for perhaps, a short term personal 'win'. I hope thats not him. That would remind me of an Adabayor type player who I would sooner be sold.

But it would be nice if he had a Harry Kane attitude and put the extra effort/focus in cos he has every intention of showing us he is the best in his position in the EPL. I'll pray that's the case.

If he can repeat that performance over the next few games it'll be very encouraging... He really has no excuses now. He has experience and knows exactly what's expected of him and there's no competition atm cos they're injured.
 

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Sorry, "the majority seem to have decided" is just hand-wringing bullshit. He said what he said. If he said that, it's disparaging, however tongue in cheek it was intended. It's just not what a professional does. (And I don't believe it was tongue in cheek, in the context of his comments it sounded a burst of unhelpful honesty – particularly poor form towards Walker-Peters, who he should be helping.)

And considering he was quite upfront about wanting to leave, I don't know why you'd choose to take the favourable reading for someone who should have the weight on his back of proving that he can actually take his job seriously for once.

Aurier has an enormous ego but hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt at all so far in most of his career. He has huge qualities but been inconsistent at best, injured a lot, a problem to manage and prone to unnecessary outbursts (at other clubs too), then randomly wanted to leave after all the "I want to put down roots" claims of joining.

TL;DR: Yay, he had a good game. Now shut up to the press and more of that please. He's never stayed at a club longer than 3 seasons tho and this is his third season.

What evidence is there that Aurier has 'an enormous ego'?
 

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That he said "What competition?" when there are several other players at his position is a pretty big sign.
Is that the only example? because like I said earlier, there's zero context for what he said and he was quite possibly having a laugh.
 

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They're actually nothing like each other, I guess is the point.

Adebayor was incredibly focused, often on the wrong things, and quite a serious individual. Most of his beef with people was down to perceived misunderstandings and slights, and he stuck rigidly to his guns, for right or wrong, to the point of stubbornness and being driven by anger and a sense of injustice.

Aurier seems to hugely lack focus and be a bit silly.
So you do not like Aurier, and will write anything to prove him in the negative, even it is crap, while ignoring the positive attributes.
 

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I would like to think the problem with Aurier is focus or attitude - something that is possibly correctable. However my take on the guy is that he is willing and tries hard. Of course concentration is important for all players - but it is mightily helpful if you instinctively do the right thing even when your concentration wavers. Really gifted players control the ball without thinking, and naturally play the right passes. Im not sure Aurier has this.

The CP game allowed us to play a lot in the opposition's half, and on the occasions where the ball bounced off him no harm was done. In a nervy match, against better completion, where we are pressed back he worries me. Lack of ball control at a critical point, or an unwise challenge in the penalty area could unwind the whole teams performance and effort.

Its always a bad plan not to write off players too quickly. I hope that he can turn the corner - and he certainly did some good things in the CP match. Lets see what happens against the better teams.
 
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