COUTINHO

[double0]

Grealish please

 

[Indisguise]

Grealish please

Is he sober yet?

 

[ajspurs]

Never really been a fan of the lad.

Although he's not a striker, he brings to mind that saying about "would you rather a great goal scorer, or a scorer of great goals?".

As if to imply that all he does is score flashy goals? I can't speak greatly of his time at Bayern and Barca but I know at Liverpool he had a massive influence over the team's performance even without the goals. He was the link man between midfield and attack, without him they struggled before they changed.

 

[McFlash]

As if to imply that all he does is score flashy goals? I can't speak greatly of his time at Bayern and Barca but I know at Liverpool he had a massive influence over the team's performance even without the goals. He was the link man between midfield and attack, without him they struggled before they changed.

Yeah, he did well at Liverpool but maybe that's because the team clicked around him?
The quote I posted was more to do with him as a player, rather than his goal scoring prowess. Just something that sprung to mind.

I'm not saying he's a bad player, far from it but I just don't think he's as brilliant as was made out during his time in the PL.
It's horses for courses. I've never really looked into his stats and can only judge on my opinion of the times I saw him. He's a good player but I don't think he's the world-beater that he's often made out to be.

I could be wrong though, it wouldn't be the first time!

 

[ajspurs]

Yeah, he did well at Liverpool but maybe that's because the team clicked around him?
The quote I posted was more to do with him as a player, rather than his goal scoring prowess. Just something that sprung to mind.

I'm not saying he's a bad player, far from it but I just don't think he's as brilliant as was made out during his time in the PL.
It's horses for courses. I've never really looked into his stats and can only judge on my opinion of the times I saw him. He's a good player but I don't think he's the world-beater that he's often made out to be.

I could be wrong though, it wouldn't be the first time!

Yeah quite possibly mate, I don't think it's unfair to suggest as much considering what he's done since leaving. I guess I was just saying that it's easy to suggest all he did was score great goals when at least for Liverpool he did a lot more. I have only seen glimpses of him at Barca and Bayern to be fair so his performances there may even further back up what you say for all I know!

 

[barry]

He's class. Even playing badly he'll be better than 90 percent of the players in the prem. People seem to believe he has a good game in three because they judge a good game for him on a much higher standard.

 

[double0]

Many people thought Eriksen on form was a better player than Coutinho.

Wasn't much in it I thought

 

[dtxspurs]

Many people thought Eriksen on form was a better player than Coutinho.

Wasn't much in it I thought

He was.

 

[spursfan77]

I really don't think we will be going anywhere near him in the future. Far too expensive.

 

[Tucker]

I really don't think we will be going anywhere near him in the future. Far too expensive.

He‘s a good player, but Barca were mad to pay what they did for him, Liverpool have built a cracking side with that money too. Talk about selling when the stock is high.

 

[Japhet]

Always seemed like a 'Match of the Day' player to me. Don't know how good he was over the usual 90 minutes and Liverpool weren't particularly good when he was there IIRC.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

He's class. Even playing badly he'll be better than 90 percent of the players in the prem. People seem to believe he has a good game in three because they judge a good game for him on a much higher standard.

No.10s will always be criticised for quiet games, even when they are in good form. However, from what I've seen, Coutinho appears to offer less out of possession than Eriksen (pressing, tackling, interceptions etc.).

 

[barry]

No.10s will always be criticised for quiet games, even when they are in good form. However, from what I've seen, Coutinho appears to offer less out of possession than Eriksen (pressing, tackling, interceptions etc.).

You're probably right but i believe when both are on top form Coutinho offers more of an attacking impetus. Eriksen was great and Coutinho isn't levels above I just think with his dribbling and trickery he offered that wee bit more.

 

[aliyid]

Many people thought Eriksen on form was a better player than Coutinho.

Wasn't much in it I thought

Controversial but I still think the only reason Barca payed so much for him was that he’s Brazilian. They’d just sold Neymar so wanted to get in another Brazilian player.

 

[Hotspur88]

I don't understand the hard time he is getting from a lot. He was superb when Bayern came to town. He would be a fantastic addition to our team.

 

[double0]

I don't understand the hard time he is getting from a lot. He was superb when Bayern came to town. He would be a fantastic addition to our team.

How much would it cost. Could we use the money more wisely. Personally a cheaper and better long term value would be Grealish for an example. IMO

 

[Hotspur88]

How much would it cost. Could we use the money more wisely. Personally a cheaper and better long term value would be Grealish for an example. IMO

Completely agree on the price, I was just trying to highlight the fact that he's still a very good player who would improve us.

 

[ajspurs]

Completely agree on the price, I was just trying to highlight the fact that he's still a very good player who would improve us.

Would definitely improve us IMO, 100%. He wouldn't lose the ball often like Dele and Lucas do for a start. If you watch a team like Man City (I know I know) you realise they rarely give the ball away cheaply, same with Liverpool. In comparison to us in terms of ball retention and actually progressing on the pitch, the difference is staggering, we give it away for fun and too many in the team are guilty of being careless with the ball.

The general level of quality needs to be raised IMO and Coutinho would contribute to that but again, that's just my opinion.

 

[Ronwol196061]

I always got the feeling that Poch needed certain types of players. The one type that he never seemed interested in were creative players. His emphasis was more physical and more pace.
It's difficult to find everything in a player and so we went more often for physical and it fit as those type players are also chreaper

 

[Hotspur88]

Would definitely improve us IMO, 100%. He wouldn't lose the ball often like Dele and Lucas do for a start. If you watch a team like Man City (I know I know) you realise they rarely give the ball away cheaply, same with Liverpool. In comparison to us in terms of ball retention and actually progressing on the pitch, the difference is staggering, we give it away for fun and too many in the team are guilty of being careless with the ball.

The general level of quality needs to be raised IMO and Coutinho would contribute to that but again, that's just my opinion.

The issue with this for us is Mourinho has stated in his book that the team with the ball is much more likely to make a mistake so he's absolutely fine with us sitting back and waiting for the opponent to give the ball away and then we counter attack. I personally hate the fact that we are probably going to see the majority of our games where we have far less possession than the opponent. I can't remember who (maybe a Norwich player), but a prem player who played against us recently even came out and said it was so different playing us now as we were happy to let them have it whereas previously we would have been hunting them down.