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mr ashley

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This idea that Gallagher will cost £50m- exactly how will Chelsea be able to demand that based on
a) their precarious financial postion
b) last year of his contract
c) negotiating with levy

come on now. People need to stop exaggerating
 

PhezTHFC

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I genuinely think Moore will be fast tracked. He's done really well the last few weeks and we've seen more senior youth players take up bench spots and get no game time. The fact he came on over Donley against Shef Utd speaks volumes as well imo. Every coach/scout you speak to can see he could well go on to be a generational talent. Every player that plays with or against him recognises he's just different.

I know I have been beating this drum for a long time now as regards him not going on loan as he is just too good for that. As I keep saying he just stands out regardless of the company he's in, and I'd be looking to tie him up to a 5 year deal at the first available opportunity. It's worth the risk imo.
I've been singing his praises for a long time now and everyone one of my mates thought i was joking. He makes stuff look easy for a 16 year old
 

vinsomer

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I think people are letting their hatred for Chelsea to blind them with this one. Gallagher is a great player and would be a class signing, he ticks absolutely all the boxes for Ange, and all that while giving us some HG slack. Having him, Bentancur, Sarr, Hall and Bergvall means the number 8 could be sorted for the next 5-10 years. I’m really Hoping this one gets through.
 

only1waddle

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I think people are letting their hatred for Chelsea to blind them with this one. Gallagher is a great player and would be a class signing, he ticks absolutely all the boxes for Ange, and all that while giving us some HG slack. Having him, Bentancur, Sarr, Hall and Bergvall means the number 8 could be sorted for the next 5-10 years. I’m really Hoping this one gets through.

It must be a strange situation for CG also, loves Chelsea but disposable purely because of terrible management, and the only major suitor is a club he's grown up learning to despise.
 

arunspurs

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Gallagher will be a perfect no 8 for Ange system. Presses like a maniac, all game long, every single game. And has that ability to create & put away chances in final third.

If Chelsea are ok to do a deal, Gallagher is a no brainer signing.

Anything between 40-50m - we should do the deal.
 

DogsOfWar

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He's a minimum of 7/10 every game which will finally see some consistency in the middle of the park.
These are the type of players Ange is talking about, they always put in a decent performance.
 

ItsBoris

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I think a great part about potentially signing Gallagher, much like the Declan Rice signing, is the attitude and the application you know you will get from him every game.

Regardless of the performance levels of the rest of the team and no matter what game we go into, you know Gallagher is the player giving 110% every time.

For a manager thats a dream, especially in setting the tempo as far as pressing and looking to win the ball high, Gallagher is always going to be at opponents from minute 1 to the end.

Also should be recognised thats the kind of attitude and personality that drags teams and elevates other players through games when generally things arent going our way or we arent playing particularly well.

This video was quite enlightening imo, he basically says the reason Poch/Chelsea can't work out is the disharmony between Gallagher and Enzo and the style of football they represent (Gallagher = direct/vertical and Enzo = possession/horizontal). Basically Gallagher is a perfect Poch player and makes his style of play work, while Enzo is not, but the Chelsea hierarchy want to be a possession-oriented team like Man City, so for them Gallagher doesn't fit in and Enzo does.

That makes me wonder how a player like Gallagher would fit with us. Ange is similar to Poch in some ways imo as it's possession-heavy but not that "horizontal" really, and we do try to play quick and direct too. So in that sense I could see how a player like Gallagher fits in to what we're trying to do, but still I would think we would want someone who can pass and retain the ball better.

Anyway would definitely suggest watching this video, really good analysis imo.

 

Bluto Blutarsky

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Gallagher will be a perfect no 8 for Ange system. Presses like a maniac, all game long, every single game. And has that ability to create & put away chances in final third.

If Chelsea are ok to do a deal, Gallagher is a no brainer signing.

Anything between 40-50m - we should do the deal.
Is he £40-50M better than Bentancur? Sarr? Bergvall?


We have limited funds, and bigger holes to fill, imo.

Thats not a knock on Gallagher, nor even suggesting he would not be an improvement. But, we have opportunities for greater improvement at other positions.
 

Ron Burgundy

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Is he £40-50M better than Bentancur? Sarr? Bergvall?


We have limited funds, and bigger holes to fill, imo.

Thats not a knock on Gallagher, nor even suggesting he would not be an improvement. But, we have opportunities for greater improvement at other positions.
A rational argument that considers the reality of where we are. I agree.

Get ready for the ‘we should spend more, it’s not my money’ response
 

ItsBoris

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Gallagher will be a perfect no 8 for Ange system. Presses like a maniac, all game long, every single game. And has that ability to create & put away chances in final third.

If Chelsea are ok to do a deal, Gallagher is a no brainer signing.

Anything between 40-50m - we should do the deal.

Probably is we already have 4 or 5 players who are unquestionably #8's, and the opportunity cost of that 40-50 million is getting a player we really need in a more high priority position. Considering Olise would cost 55 million just to name one example, don't you think that would do more to elevate us next season?
 

spursfast

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Is he £40-50M better than Bentancur? Sarr? Bergvall?


We have limited funds, and bigger holes to fill, imo.

Thats not a knock on Gallagher, nor even suggesting he would not be an improvement. But, we have opportunities for greater improvement at other positions.
but it doesn't follow that we don't spend say 50m on Gallagher and money would be spend on another player. more likely it would be 17m-20m on the 3rd /4th behind precived that the player can do the same thing, but as we know how we came unstuck so many times
 

McFlash

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As I said a few weeks back I don't see him or Donley going on loan and see them getting more minutes than folks expect. I know it was U17's but Moore was a huge standout again last night against France. He does things many top class senior pro's can't even dream to do. He still needs to adjust learn and grow considerably of course, and I'm certainly not saying he is as good an overall package as those senior pro's yet, but purely based on talent he's above the majority of the Premier league already.
I really, really hope this is the case.
Nothing I love more than watching the kids breaking through, even if they don't eventually make the grade, there's a lot to enjoy about watching us create professional footballers.

Last night was the first time I've managed to watch a full game of Moore's and crikey, he's was impressive for his age.
 

McFlash

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Personally I think midfield is the area we need the most work. I think a large portion of our mediocre performances were because we didn't control the middle of the park and expected the forwards to do all the work.

Bentancur still seems to be a bit inconsistent since coming back from injury. As for the others, I don't see that Ange is 100% convinced by any of Bissouma, Sarr, PEH or Skipp considering how often he chopped and changed them.

Personally I'd be looking at shipping out PEH and Skipp for definite and maybe one of Bissouma or Sarr and getting in two more reliable options. As to whether Gallagher is one of those, he seems to have been a solid reliable presence for Chelsea - don't really think he'd come here though, he seems proper Chelsea.
Bissouma I can maybe understand but there's no way I'd consider even thinking about letting Sarr go!
The kid has been great on the whole, in what is his first season in a very tough league and he's still a baby with so much potential.

What makes you willing to give up on a 20 year old like Sarr?
 

arunspurs

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Is he £40-50M better than Bentancur? Sarr? Bergvall?


We have limited funds, and bigger holes to fill, imo.

Thats not a knock on Gallagher, nor even suggesting he would not be an improvement. But, we have opportunities for greater improvement at other positions.

Europa League is extended format with us having to play 8 group games atleast. Then there is 38 PL games & EFL and FA cup. We need depth in quality

We will sell Hojbjerg, GLC - so we need players in midfield for style of play under Ange.

Kulu as false 9 worked.Kulu at 8 has more or less failed this season. Its not even a question for me, we need a quality 8 next season.
 

DogsOfWar

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Is he £40-50M better than Bentancur? Sarr? Bergvall?


We have limited funds, and bigger holes to fill, imo.

Thats not a knock on Gallagher, nor even suggesting he would not be an improvement. But, we have opportunities for greater improvement at other positions.
It's more a question of how much he's worth more than the player we sell to make room for him.
if Bissouma was sold for thirty and we get Gallagher for forty then I believe he's ten million better and will give the consistency of performance that Yves seems to lack.
 

McFlash

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and I'd be looking to tie him up to a 5 year deal at the first available opportunity. It's worth the risk imo.
Did his recent deal not have some sort of guarantee of him signing a bumper pro deal?
I could've sworn something like that was said at the time and it was a much different deal than we usually offer kids of his age?
 

arunspurs

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2023/24 season clearly showed our defenders create & score more than midfielders.

5 Defenders : Porro,Romero,VDV,Udogie, Emerson : 14 goals , 10 assist
7 Midfielders : Maddison, Bentancur, Sarr, Hojbjerg, GLC, Skipp,Bissouma : 10 goal, 15 assist. Take out Maddison contribution as a AM, then its 6 goals, 6 assists.

For me, its pretty clear, we need goal scoring & creating no8s.
Hence Gallagher should be a top target...if Chelsea are willing to do a deal
 
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