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Flashspur

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Now again, I wont be accusing Rudiger of lying because I dont think he lied but most likely misheard. Im quite angry though that the fans were found guilty of racism by the media - trial by media. The same way im not accusing Rudiger of lying i dont think we should be found guilty of something where no evidence proves this.

I hope all the fuckin media ****s apologise.

They won’t.
 

Lighty64

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Hes crazy. No way in hell rudiger could of ever misheard. Nope, we have to be covering for a racist.


if you read all the tweets he brings up the incident at Arsenal, and the banana as proof we are a racist club



but still no mention about the arrest of the Chelsea fan
 

Lighty64

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Just one other thing on little o Ollie..
2 of his 6 books were written about...Chelsea!

1 on F1
1 on Ferguson and Shankly
And ghost writing for Neil Warnock...Stan Collymore AND.....

GREAME LE SAUX

And the other was

THE BRIDGE - BEHIND THE SCENES AT CHELSEA

someone somewhere on twitter also mentioned him doing a book for John Terry
 

yankspurs

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This oliver character was retweeted onto my timeline. Looked at his twitter and i really dont get it. He is FURIOUS that they couldnt come up with evidence. Absolutely seething. Like he might actually give himself an anyeurism hes so fucking mad. Why be angry that someone might not have been racist? Just chill out, oliver. You’re a reporter.
 

bomberH

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I have a feeling Holt may regret winding the Spurs fans up...

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worcestersauce

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Not buying that at all.
Not sure we have ever sung "who let the yids during a home match ever"
Sung occasionally when arriving at an away ground but that is it.

See it has now been changed from one person who wasn't at game saying, we have a song called that, maybe that was being sung, to it was definitely being sung at the time.
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Take it from me, I was right there on the spot and it was being chanted and you are mistaken if you think it wasn't. Sorry mate but that's the truth.
 

buckley

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So you go to a match and genuinely do not hear racist chants you are then labelled a racist for saying you did not hear the chants talk about no win situation . Far better to leave the ones who want to find racism everywhere and in everything to themselves .
In this climate you are better if you cannot back up charges of racism because you did not hear it leave it to the ones who see and hear racism in everything . When the fact is in my life I can say I don't come across racism and I can say that on this forum because it will give me anonymity. In the real world I would keep well away from racist discussions because one wrong word however wee intentioned and the people that see racism in everything will be on you like shit on a blanket.
 

punkisback

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So you go to a match and genuinely do not hear racist chants you are then labelled a racist for saying you did not hear the chants talk about no win situation . Far better to leave the ones who want to find racism everywhere and in everything to themselves .
In this climate you are better if you cannot back up charges of racism because you did not hear it leave it to the ones who see and hear racism in everything . When the fact is in my life I can say I don't come across racism and I can say that on this forum because it will give me anonymity. In the real world I would keep well away from racist discussions because one wrong word however wee intentioned and the people that see racism in everything will be on you like shit on a blanket.
There's difference between not seeign and being exposed to it; and outright calling the bloke a liar and saying people are playing the race card.
 

buckley

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I am not talking about Rudigar I am talking about your average fan who goes to a match and is being called out because he genuinely did not hear anything . And saying you did not hear anything and then being in denial and therefore racist .
It makes you want to steer well clear of this subject because unless you say you heard things you did not hear you will be labled racist .
Best to leave it to those who know much more about racism than I do .
But I should be allowed if true to say "I did not hear anything " but I am not allowed to say that I will be called out for being in denial or at worst a racist . I prefer to keep my mouth shut and let the experts who know everything and also when someone is telling the truth or not .
They really are too clever for me as I only say what I hear and do not hear.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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Look at his latest tweets the twat, still trying to knock our club down, i honestly hope he's never allowed to attend our home games again

he’s just trolling now. In fact I think he was with his first tweet. He’s definitely not well meaning that’s for sure.
 

Gb160

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The news are reporting now that no evidence being found is such a terrible outcome, because black players now will be wary of reporting such incidents.

Surely this is the best outcome? that there's a pretty high chance he misheard and there was in fact no racism?
 

punkisback

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I am not talking about Rudigar I am talking about your average fan who goes to a match and is being called out because he genuinely did not hear anything . And saying you did not hear anything and then being in denial and therefore racist .
It makes you want to steer well clear of this subject because unless you say you heard things you did not hear you will be labled racist .
Best to leave it to those who know much more about racism than I do .
But I should be allowed if true to say "I did not hear anything " but I am not allowed to say that I will be called out for being in denial or at worst a racist . I prefer to keep my mouth shut and let the experts who know everything and also when someone is telling the truth or not .
They really are too clever for me as I only say what I hear and do not hear.
Hi mate, don't think that's the case. I can say that I don't believe spurs fans would sing racists chants en masse; i don't think people have an issue at all with this. It's more when people call him a liar, or abuse him for reporting alleged chants that i think is bad.
 

Gassin's finest

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The news are reporting now that no evidence being found is such a terrible outcome, because black players now will be wary of reporting such incidents.

Surely this is the best outcome? that there's a pretty high chance he misheard and there was in fact no racism?
Why would they be wary? Rudiger did nowt wrong, and everyone has said they support him.
 

Bensonrecon

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For me Holt is as vile as they come with his antics especially since the weekend. Rudiger was right to bring it up if he thought he heard something racist, The club was right to investigate it the way it has done and both clubs have worded their statements yesterday in the exact right way. What isn't alright is for Holt to sweepingly tar an entire fan base without any evidence by throwing in things that aren't relevant to what happened at the game, to double down when being called a hypocrite for a week and to then suggest ineptitude on part of the police and club after the statement last night.

I have no issue with Rudiger at all for speaking up, I do have an issue with some stuffed shirt with a cushy writing job using someone else's perceived racism as a shield to hide behind.
 

Stamford

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I for one do not hide from saying that if I had to guess, I'd say it was all just a game to him, no pun intended. It would be very sad, I think, if somebody would opt for pulling the racism card as if it is a trick one can go around playing on one's opponents.

As someone who has had racist abuse directed at them it's never ever a game so don't be so utterly stupid. Ridiculous comment.

On a separate note the media coverage on this compared to the Chelsea fan accused of genuine racism is disproportionate and I find difficult to understand. The likes of Holt and Baddiel have a clear agenda.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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The news are reporting now that no evidence being found is such a terrible outcome, because black players now will be wary of reporting such incidents.

It's more to do with the abuse Rudiger seems to be getting for daring to report what he heard in the first place. With many idiot fans calling him a 'liar' and saying he should apologise.

It's absolutely disgusting IMO. We need to create an environment where players feel comfortable to report incidents of racist abuse whether they are mistaken or not.

The abuse Rudiger has got will probably mean some players fail to report racist abuse for fear of being called out for lying if there is no evidence found.
 
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Gb160

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It's more to do with the abuse Rudiger seems to be getting for daring to report what he heard in the first place. With many idiot fans calling him a 'liar' and saying he should apologise.

It's absolutely disgusting IMO. We need to create an environment where players feel comfortable to report incidents of racist abuse whether they are mistaken or not.
It just shows the intelligence of some fans...who think no evidence must mean he's lying.
There's a few on here who have said the same.
 

DJS

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Not buying that at all.
Not sure we have ever sung "who let the yids during a home match ever"
Sung occasionally when arriving at an away ground but that is it.

See it has now been changed from one person who wasn't at game saying, we have a song called that, maybe that was being sung, to it was definitely being sung at the time.
Internet forums, where made up bollocks becomes reality

Never heard who let the yids out sung at a home match ever??

When I used to work on the turnstiles I heard it EVERY match.

Maybe you need to get your hearing sorted lol.
 
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