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Christian Eriksen: I was the black sheep at Spurs

Ronwol196061

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And this all boils down to Poch not being backed by Levy imo

Eriksen, Rose, Toby etc etc should have been sold ages and ages ago

As soon as Poch knew these guys weren’t onboard 100% or weren’t signing new contracts he’d have wanted them out

Who did Poch want??????? Nobody knows. Who didn't he want? Nobody knows.
He wrote a book saying that he and Levy were on the same page.
 

vuzp

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So you think instead of Eriksen taking responsibility he should blame the others?
No, he was poor but why was he not replaced when the club knew what he was doing or the situation handled better,
in any work place if your not doing the job the management will replace you.
i know football is different but he should have been dropped more and others give a chance.
 

southlondonyiddo

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Who did Poch want??????? Nobody knows. Who didn't he want? Nobody knows.
He wrote a book saying that he and Levy were on the same page.

It’s all speculation and we’ve all got our own opinions and ideas on these matters. Some, like me, are correct and others, like yourself, are not

Don’t sweat it
 

Ronwol196061

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No, he was poor but why was he not replaced when the club knew what he was doing or the situation handled better,
in any work place if your not doing the job the management will replace you.
i know football is different but he should have been dropped more and others give a chance.

Mourinho brought him into games to regain some ball control and for the most part he wasnt worse than other players and could hold the ball when our passing was going astray. But another point is Levy would rather have kept him that given him away so they were holding on to that too. AS to Poch using him well he knew the system could play the channels for Pochs system. Who were we going to buy? We bought NDombele and Lo Celso to cover the creative areas. Who else were we going to use? We had too few creative players
 

vuzp

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Mourinho brought him into games to regain some ball control and for the most part he wasnt worse than other players and could hold the ball when our passing was going astray. But another point is Levy would rather have kept him that given him away so they were holding on to that too. AS to Poch using him well he knew the system could play the channels for Pochs system. Who were we going to buy? We bought NDombele and Lo Celso to cover the creative areas. Who else were we going to use? We had too few creative players
we should have got Grealish when we had the chance and as another poster has said Poch didn't want Maddison or Tielemans,
that was bad management on the clubs part.
 

Ronwol196061

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we should have got Grealish when we had the chance and as another poster has said Poch didn't want Maddison or Tielemans,
that was bad management on the clubs part.

I think there was more to it.First of all Levy doesn't pay right away. he negotiates.I believe during that time didn't VIlla change ownership and they talked him into staying etc. I think there were other reservations when it came to the price too.It wasn't cut and dry. Yes Grealish would have been good but still we bought Lo Celso and Ndombele. Got little for Eriksen but spent 145 mil on players.
Poch was with Levy all the time until we started to crumble. What does that tell you? Mourinhos approch is different and he will wield more power as it goes along if we can accomplish some more things. Meanwhile we have an excellent team.Not perfect. Levy is a conservative businessman and is building something albeit a little slower
 

Gassin's finest

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Imo the most interesting thing he said was this: “People were still sad from the Champions League final when the season started. After you get a few bad results, then you go into a spiral you are not used to and it was difficult to come back up.”

You guys pick on the wrong stuff of all the things he said
I've been saying since the summer that we don't appreciate how much that Final effected the club.
 

Ronwol196061

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I've been saying since the summer that we don't appreciate how much that Final effected the club.

I was sad we got into the final. Poch was shocked we got into the final. I thought we would embarrass ourselves but Liverpool were a touch less embarrassing than us in what was the worst CL final ever. We got lucky getting in to it and got lucky with Liverpool playing crap too.
 

cliff jones

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He expects us to remember his highs but hasn’t had anything positive to say about us.

very good player but was never put under any pressure by a competitor just like Kane and Alli. Back to the under investment problem. Grealish would have done that but we all know who fcked that up.

lack of commitment, feeble tackling, hiding in his latter days took the shine off his legacy.

good luck and riddance, and if I was an Inter fan I’d be telling him politely to focus on the present not the past. Conte has already commented on his lack of fitness which says it all...
 

southlondonyiddo

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He’s never been that kind of player so don’t moan about it when he’s off for that’s just pathetic

This was always one of the main differences between Modric & Eriksen. Modric had the 'heart of a lion' as we were told on numerous occasions
 

mpickard2087

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I've been saying since the summer that we don't appreciate how much that Final effected the club.

Worst part is though for an onlooker it seemed like that the man who is supposed to galvanise the others and lead them forward - Poch - was himself moping around and feeling sorry for himself.

For me one of the big parts of being a manager, especially at a big club and leading them for multiple seasons, is you have to be able to marshal the troops and keep them focused and on track. You almost have to be dispassionate win or lose, and straightaway looking to what's next you want to win. I don't think it was inevitable that we'd be affected so badly after the CL final (and we cant ignore that performances had been tailing off for two years prior to that), but they needed galvanising from those in charge and new life breathed into the culture and standards set. Instead though we hear stories about Poch locking himself away in Spain for weeks and then he came back for those final few months looking a pretty hollow version of himself. When your figurehead is behaving and affected like that, you've got no chance of getting the show back on the road.
 

Ronwol196061

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Worst part is though for an onlooker it seemed like that the man who is supposed to galvanise the others and lead them forward - Poch - was himself moping around and feeling sorry for himself.

For me one of the big parts of being a manager, especially at a big club and leading them for multiple seasons, is you have to be able to marshal the troops and keep them focused and on track. You almost have to be dispassionate win or lose, and straightaway looking to what's next you want to win. I don't think it was inevitable that we'd be affected so badly after the CL final (and we cant ignore that performances had been tailing off for two years prior to that), but they needed galvanising from those in charge and new life breathed into the culture and standards set. Instead though we hear stories about Poch locking himself away in Spain for weeks and then he came back for those final few months looking a pretty hollow version of himself. When your figurehead is behaving and affected like that, you've got no chance of getting the show back on the road.

I always thought it was strange that Poch said if he won the CL he would leave. If I was Levy I would wait my chance. In his book he was always with Levy and only said good things about him. I really think he couldnt confront Levy in a man o mano way and just dealt with things openly I think he either caved into Levy or he was truing to emulate Che Guevera by occasionally letting the cat out of the bag with that leaving if he won comment
 

yankspurs

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He can fuck himself. Shut the fuck up, Christian. You had 6 years here and developed your career. It is not Spurs fault that you’re career didnt go as plan. It is your fault because you didnt show up in finals and mailed it in for the last year. Grow the fuck up and look in the mirror. Clown.
 

coy-spurs1882

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He can fuck himself. Shut the fuck up, Christian. You had 6 years here and developed your career. It is not Spurs fault that you’re career didnt go as plan. It is your fault because you didnt show up in finals and mailed it in for the last year. Grow the fuck up and look in the mirror. Clown.
well the fact that Inter is his next destination instead of Real Madrid or Barca says it all
 

WhiteStripe

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"There's a big chance of winning a trophy here or a bigger chance than where I was of course. I'm here to win and start something new. The last time I won something was at Ajax so it's many years ago. I still remember the feeling so I want to achieve it here as well.”

Maybe true, but I would Kevin Keegan love it if we win a trophy before they do! Fucking grow up and stop the passive aggressive digs.
 

Ben1

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He made some good points, mostly true. I don't believe his effort ever intentionally dropped, whether it did or not, even he wouldn't know.

Complete lack of self awareness however with trophy comments and the like.

All I can say is that, with that attitude towards the fanbase, club and our chances of winning things, thank god he's out of the dressing room.
 

Japhet

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In Poch’s defence, he had no other options during the whole of last season.
It’s been easier for Mourinho to try and progress without him as he has a few extra bodies around.

Part of the problem with Eriksen was that he was so central to our attacking play to the extent that we often heard 'When Eriksen plays well, Tottenham play well'. That works both ways, but for the majority of the time we got away with it because Eriksen was in decent shape. We then had a ropey half season, followed by the CL loss during which Eriksen wasn't anywhere near his usual standard, but plenty of other players dropped off or were similarly distracted, but Eriksen has born the brunt of the criticism. Alot of the blame also lies with Pochettino who seemed to lose interest and become increasing distant from the issues we were facing, and increasing disinterested in finding any solution.

Under those circumstances I'm not surprised that his stance changed from 'I might fancy a change of scenery' to 'Get me the fuck out of here'. Fortunately we now have a load more creative options than when it was just Eriksen so we should be able to cope with individual drops in form with a better collective contribution from the likes of Ndombele, Lo Celso, Bergwijn and Fernandes - a luxury Eriksen was never really afforded.
 
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