W15 L15 D5 in his last 35 league games...we plenty of negative responses for questioning Ange, but his record since 'that Chelsea game' has been appalling.
stealing a living even if hes the cheapest manager we've had in years..
W15 L15 D5 in his last 35 league games...we plenty of negative responses for questioning Ange, but his record since 'that Chelsea game' has been appalling.
While that is a positive, it’s also not the first time we have failed to take our opportunities and it’s come back to bite us. The way we play relies on us being clinical, if we don’t (or can’t) improve on this then these sort of results will happen more often than they should. 3 times already this season we should of been out of sight at half time only to end up with a total of 1 point from those games - and we are only 7 games in. This isn’t a dig at Ange, it’s a dig at the wasteful tossers who continually bodge excellent opportunitiesTo try and be at least somewhat positive, for 45 mins we played them off their own park. Could quite easily have been 4-0 at half time.
I have just heard on TS that Tottenham are the first side in PL history to lose ten games after being two goals up.
And knowing how to adapt comes from the manager, he did nothing. That result was not 100% on the players. The failure was a collective failure. Not making subs (and then the wrong subs) until the 80th minute, standing there just shaking your head in silence, then the numerous defensive errors from the players. An absolute clusterfuck from players and manager.
But youre not going to keep that level of intensity up for 90 minutes pressing high up the pitch, and if thats the plan then subs coming on at the right time would be absolutely critical.
Left the subs way too late.
I was screaming from Bissouma on around 54 minutes!
But the buck stops with him. If he’s unhappy with how the team is performing he has to make them aware of that by hooking any number of them off. He can change half the team from the bench.agreed, easy to blame Ange cos that’s where it usually goes. But not a single one of them stepped up. In-game management is not solely on the manager
It’s like old adage; an attack might win you a cup but a defense wins you the league.At the end of the day the best teams are built on a solid defence, evidently that's still our biggest weakness and we need to start tweaking that area. I never ever feel confident that we can keep a clean sheet, that's an issue for a team competing at the level we are and trying to win things.
Not that simple imo, our full backs were isolated and exposed/out of position frequently from about minute 30, there was no-one to bring on, aside from maybe Sarr, who might be able to help with that. Once we were 2-2 (and it was 2-2 very quickly) you're not going to take Maddison or Kulusevski off for Sarr because you want to win this match and they're your main creators, the only candidate to take off was Werner but he seemed to be beating Veltman for fun in the first half, so again was maybe our best route to goal (obviously in hindsight, Veltman seemed to nullify him for the second half) . So I can see why Ange trusted the team he had out there from 2-2.But the buck stops with him. If he’s unhappy with how the team is performing he has to make them aware of that by hooking any number of them off. He can change half the team from the bench.
But the buck stops with him. If he’s unhappy with how the team is performing he has to make them aware of that by hooking any number of them off. He can change half the team from the bench.
So sad. What happened ? We were running away with the game and then lost our focus. Did we get cocky ?
I would say the chasing back is more energy intensive than the pressing.Not that simple imo, our full backs were isolated and exposed/out of position frequently from about minute 30, there was no-one to bring on, aside from maybe Sarr, who might be able to help with that. Once we were 2-2 (and it was 2-2 very quickly) you're not going to take Maddison or Kulusevski off for Sarr because you want to win this match and they're your main creators, the only candidate to take off was Werner but he seemed to be beating Veltman for fun in the first half, so again was maybe our best route to goal (obviously in hindsight, Veltman seemed to nullify him for the second half) . So I can see why Ange trusted the team he had out there from 2-2.
This looked to me like our system having it's inherent weakness exposed (inverted full backs and high wingers leave a lot of space to defend, our pressing is very energy intensive, Maddison and Kulusevski are not that adept defensively), combined with intangibles like game momentum and bobbles of the ball having an effect. On this latter point Johnson has a chance at the end of the first half to make it 3 but the ball just bobbles as he's shooting making him blast it over
In short, it's a hard loss but no need to panic. I thought the swing in narrative from the commentators was quite frankly hilarious. In the first half we're incredible, first time we've won 6 straight in so long, we're back. Then we're losing and suddenly we'll never get far because we can't defend. We're still playing well, there's no need to panic.
Me too mate. I was kicking nearby tables at 2-2. Unforgivable 2nd half surrenderwoken up still absolutely raging about this
You may be right, but my impression is that nothing has changed. All season we've played high risk high speed football. A lot of one touch passing, flicks and backheels to move the ball at pace. When it works, it's glorious, but when it doesn't it is truly horrible. In my view what we're seeing is how dependent our football is on the way our opponents play. Utd chose not to press our midfield at all, until it was too late, and we had a field day. Brighton initially wanted to play across the whole field, giving us space an time. In the second half, Brighton denied us space in the middle, and we fell back into our side to side passing, forcing ourselves down the wings with a semi-static midfield structure.It seems ridiculous to say but there are positives from this. The first half was excellent. A touch too open for my liking but we were carving a very competent side open away from home. There are some signs that the plan A is working better in recent weeks. Most of the United game and the first half today was as good as we've played under Ange. We played similarly well in the first 45 v Leicester and against Brentford.
With that in mind it's not all doom and gloom and there are a few signs of progress.