Boxing thread?

[PhillySpurs]

Ruiz was 16lbs heavier than the last fight and he was fill of fat then too.
It really was the worst fight.
Joshua won by not hitting this is not a fight

I respectfully disagree. Ruiz ate straight jabs to the face all night long. The fight might not have been entertaining to you, and other casual boxing fans, but it sure was entertaining to me. Joshua did exactly what he had to do to win that fight. He didn't get sucked in by Ruiz into a brawl, in which he probably would have lost.

 

[SugarRay]

Ruiz was 16lbs heavier than the last fight and he was fill of fat then too.
It really was the worst fight.
Joshua won by not hitting this is not a fight

Hitting without getting hit. That’s boxing mate, the whole aim of it.

 

[SugarRay]

hopfully Joshua fights usyk next and doesn't whimp out by choosing the ibf mandatory Pulev instead of him.

IBF and WBO both call their mandatories at the same time, meaning it’s unlikely he can do both.
Usyk is part of matchroom...

This is what will happen. Pulev will get the IBF mandatory shot next, probably at The Lane. Unless the WBO allow an extension then the WBO will be made vacant. Usyk will then fight another matchroom aligned fighter, maybe even Chisora, for the vacant title. That way it stays in the matchroom promotion and the winner of that fights AJ after he beats Pulev.

Pulev was supposed to have been taken care of ages ago but pulled out and Takam replaced him last minute. Pulev is actually half decent, relatively speaking. He’d be Fury and Wilder’s second best win if they fought and beat him for example. He’s the equivalent to Ortiz who people seem to have a hard on for

 

[IfiHadTheWings]

Thought Joshua boxed his ears off and executed the game plan superbly, however even though Ruiz came in awful shape and was clearly heavy on the Tacos all camp I still felt Joshua was one combination coming out of the clinch away from disaster and get the nagging feeling that he will be found wanting again in the near future.

 

[Gb160]

Hitting without getting hit. That’s boxing mate, the whole aim of it.

You're wasting your breath mate...Unless a fight ends with a UFC style brain injuring KO its not a good fight according to some fans.

 

[Ronwol196061]

I respectfully disagree. Ruiz ate straight jabs to the face all night long. The fight might not have been entertaining to you, and other casual boxing fans, but it sure was entertaining to me. Joshua did exactly what he had to do to win that fight. He didn't get sucked in by Ruiz into a brawl, in which he probably would have lost.

I don't disagree with you about that,but its still not a fight (to me)

 

[Ronwol196061]

Hitting without getting hit. That’s boxing mate, the whole aim of it.

Football is no different,if you win that's great,right? What if the quality is terrible? You score more goals than the other team but you performance is pance (we saw a lot of that last year)
I wont say Joshua wasn't good at what he did.It was his intention and he stuck to it,but from a neutral perspective itw as a terrible fight

 

[Gb160]

I wont say Joshua wasn't good at what he did.It was his intention and he stuck to it,but from a neutral perspective itw as a terrible fight

It really wasn't Ron, it was a tactical masterclass...completely nullifying his opponents strengths, whilst playing to his own.
From an ignorant perspective it was a terrible fight perhaps.

 

[Ronwol196061]

It really wasn't Ron, it was a tactical masterclass...completely nullifying his opponents strengths, whilst playing to his own.
From an ignorant perspective it was a terrible fight perhaps.

Ruiz couldn't move,he had the centre of the ring,Joshua was moving and bobbing and jabbing.I don't think Joshua could have done more that he did and by the size of him I don't think Ruiz could have moved faster than he did. Does that make a good fight.I would say only if you are a Joshua supporter. I was a neutral looking to see a good fight. Im I interesting in them bashing each other to smithereens? No but it was not a good fight in my opinion even though Joshua fought the best of the situation.

 

[Ronwol196061]

It really wasn't Ron, it was a tactical masterclass...completely nullifying his opponents strengths, whilst playing to his own.
From an ignorant perspective it was a terrible fight perhaps.

Ill ask you a question.In the semifinal of the CL were you happy we won? What do you think of the game? Did you think we were quality?

 

[Gb160]

Ill ask you a question.In the semifinal of the CL were you happy we won? What do you think of the game? Did you think we were quality?

None of that is relevant Ron.
You called it a terrible fight which is complete nonsense.

 

[Ronwol196061]

None of that is relevant Ron.
You called it a terrible fight which is complete nonsense.

I don't think it was a good fight at all. They now have one fight each. There will not be a rubber because Ruiz was so diabolically not fit. Despite Joshua doing what he had to do,there was no fighter on the other side,otherwise they would be ready to do this again.

 

[Ronwol196061]

Andy Ruiz Doesn’t Deserve A Third Fight With Anthony Joshua

Andy Ruiz wants a third fight with Anthony Joshua, but does he really deserve a third payday?

www.forbes.com

 

[King of Otters]

It was a disappointing fight because Ruiz is a massive lard arse. AJ didn't have to get out of second gear to beat him comfortably.

I have no issues with how AJ approached the fight, it was the perfect strategy under the circumstances. But it was disappointing that he wasn't made to work harder to win back his belts.

 

[E17yid]

It was weird seeing AJ actually move his head and feet. Good to see.

Fury would beat him comfortably though imo.

I enjoyed the fight. Definitely was not boring but while I think AJ was smart I wouldn’t call it a masterclass.

 

[SugarRay]

He’d fight Fury and Wilder completely different though. It’s not like Joshua has changed his style completely, he just adjusted for his opponent. That’s what good fighters do. Lennox Lewis was great at it by and large. Kept it long v Tua and barely ate a shot all night. Then jumped all over Grant and Golota, bigger opponents.

Joshua would have to be super aggressive v Fury imo. Fury has virtually zero power at that level so it would be interesting. Also worth noting Fury sneaks rounds, fiddles and barely lands anything himself when against top level guys, there’s every chance he could drop a bollock if it stays long v Joshua and doesn’t up his workrate.
Wilder would be something of a shootout, and with Joshua having better fundamentals and Wilder not being all that hard to hit, he’d stand a good chance imo. 50/50 shootout
Hopefully we see such fights happen

 

[E17yid]

He’d fight Fury and Wilder completely different though. It’s not like Joshua has changed his style completely, he just adjusted for his opponent. That’s what good fighters do. Lennox Lewis was great at it by and large. Kept it long v Tua and barely ate a shot all night. Then jumped all over Grant and Golota, bigger opponents.

Joshua would have to be super aggressive v Fury imo. Fury has virtually zero power at that level so it would be interesting. Also worth noting Fury sneaks rounds, fiddles and barely lands anything himself when against top level guys, there’s every chance he could drop a bollock if it stays long v Joshua and doesn’t up his workrate.
Wilder would be something of a shootout, and with Joshua having better fundamentals and Wilder not being all that hard to hit, he’d stand a good chance imo. 50/50 shootout
Hopefully we see such fights happen

I agree he’d have to take it to Fury I just don’t think he’s got the skills to beat him. He’s got the power but Fury is far more intelligent.

 

[SugarRay]

I agree he’d have to take it to Fury I just don’t think he’s got the skills to beat him. He’s got the power but Fury is far more intelligent.

Perhaps. If Wilder can land, or more worryingly, if the club fighter he faced last time can land, Joshua can. It’s an intriguing fight so needs to be made. I wouldn’t be so sure Fury comfortably outpoints Joshua either. As I said, Fury isn’t one for dominant performances at this level. He sneaked rounds and barely landed anything v Wlad and was doing the same vs Wilder until he started getting dropped.

Sure, we’d back Fury to win if it did stay long and went the distance but it’s always a risky approach, leaving it up to the judges without trying to make it emphatic.

I don’t think it’ll happen anyway unfortunately. Fury doesn’t do tough fight after tough fight, he never has and he doesn’t do title defences either. Pretty sure he barely defended any title he has ever held, right back to the English/British/Irish title days. Lot depends on how the Wilder fight goes too. If Deontay wins I can see Dury jacking it in.

 

[brendanb50]

He’d fight Fury and Wilder completely different though. It’s not like Joshua has changed his style completely, he just adjusted for his opponent. That’s what good fighters do. Lennox Lewis was great at it by and large. Kept it long v Tua and barely ate a shot all night. Then jumped all over Grant and Golota, bigger opponents.

Joshua would have to be super aggressive v Fury imo. Fury has virtually zero power at that level so it would be interesting. Also worth noting Fury sneaks rounds, fiddles and barely lands anything himself when against top level guys, there’s every chance he could drop a bollock if it stays long v Joshua and doesn’t up his workrate.
Wilder would be something of a shootout, and with Joshua having better fundamentals and Wilder not being all that hard to hit, he’d stand a good chance imo. 50/50 shootout
Hopefully we see such fights happen

Agree with pretty much all of this but in my opinion, there's a reason why Joshua hasn't fought Wilder and in particular Fury yet.

He'd change his style up but i think both of those opponents are too good for him although as you've said, Wilder will definitely leave a few gaps for a big hit at some point in the fight, the problem is that i think Joshua isn't as fast as him.

 

[SugarRay]

Agree with pretty much all of this but in my opinion, there's a reason why Joshua hasn't fought Wilder and in particular Fury yet.

He'd change his style up but i think both of those opponents are too good for him although as you've said, Wilder will definitely leave a few gaps for a big hit at some point in the fight, the problem is that i think Joshua isn't as fast as him.

Hopefully we see. For what it’s worth, Joshua hasn’t really been the one avoiding these fights. Makes no sense to turn down too many Joshua offers, Joshua is the money fight for everyone. I have no idea why people wouldn’t want to fight him.
Ruiz made more in two fights against Joshua than Fury and Wilder have in their entire careers. Crazy really

I think we might see Wilder v Joshua. I hope we see Fury v Joshua.

Anyway, I look forward to the day Daniel Dubois comes through and knocks all three of them out and settles the whole argument?