At least were not Newcastle

[LukaMotion]

Just seen this in the Independent, if i were a newcastle fan i'd be absolutely livid. Mike Ashley is the epitome of terrible owners and is one of the biggest examples of money ruining football.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-famous-sign-up-for-sale-on-ebay-2368667.html

:evil:

 

[Legacy]

So they've removed the lettering because they were putting up a new livery in its place. They then decided, rather than scrapping it, to auction each individual letter on eBay in order to raise money for their charity?

The heartless bastards.

 

[RickyVilla]

So they've removed the lettering because they were putting up a new livery in its place. They then decided, rather than scrapping it, to auction each individual letter on eBay in order to raise money for their charity?

The heartless bastards.

:rofl:

 

[RichSpur58]

Ashley has done a good job considering the bad financial shape the club was in when he took over.

Hes got rid of the big earning past prime players. Brought in cheaper hungrier players. Has a decent young manager. The club is running with sustainability in mind.

35m was good business for Carroll too.

 

[LukaMotion]

Well if Levy decided to tear the Cockerel down and stick a different one up there with a great massive ENIC logo draped around its neck, then proceeded to flog it on eBay to anyone who would have it, I bet you'd take it more seriously.

That Newcastle United livery is, to the toons, as much of a symbol of the club as the cockerel is to us, or the statues of bobby & co. are to Man Utd.

At the end of the day, he's got rid of a classic piece of Newcastle Utd history and replaced it with a piece of advertising. Like he gives a fuck as well, the fact the money goes to the charity is moot, he only did it to create some more space to slap his companies logo for self profit.

 

[mike_l]

Well if Levy decided to tear the Cockerel down and stick a different one up there with a great massive ENIC logo draped around its neck, then proceeded to flog it on eBay to anyone who would have it, I bet you'd take it more seriously.

That Newcastle United livery is, to the toons, as much of a symbol of the club as the cockerel is to us, or the statues of bobby & co. are to Man Utd.

At the end of the day, he's got rid of a classic piece of Newcastle Utd history and replaced it with a piece of advertising. Like he gives a fuck as well, the fact the money goes to the charity is moot, he only did it to create some more space to slap his companies logo for self profit.

The letters were put up in 1996 FFS, they aren't pre-war relics. If I were an NUFC fan at the moment I'd probably be happier than I had been for a good while.

As for he sponsorship, that goes on at every club, fans might not like it but it's pretty much a necessary evil thesse days.

 

[LukaMotion]

The letters were put up in 1996 FFS, they aren't pre-war relics. If I were an NUFC fan at the moment I'd probably be happier than I had been for a good while.

As for he sponsorship, that goes on at every club, fans might not like it but it's pretty much a necessary evil thesse days.

Even so, they were still a piece of history at St. James Park and the few Toon fans i know are pretty pissed off about it all. It's all just another example of why Ashley is in charge of Newcastle. It's not for the football, it's for the money and he couldn't be less blatant about it.

Remember when he first took over and he wanted to change the name of St James Park to 'Sportsdirect.com @ St James' Park'.

Given, if i were a toon fan i'd be very happy at the league position their in, but they all still hate Ashley.

 

[mpickard2087]

Even so, they were still a piece of history at St. James Park and the few Toon fans i know are pretty pissed off about it all. It's all just another example of why Ashley is in charge of Newcastle. It's not for the football, it's for the money and he couldn't be less blatant about it.

Remember when he first took over and he wanted to change the name of St James Park to 'Sportsdirect.com @ St James' Park'.

Given, if i were a toon fan i'd be very happy at the league position their in, but they all still hate Ashley.

He didnt want to call it this, he wanted to sell the naming rights but no-one was interested at the time so he ended up putting even more of his own money in by getting his company to pay for the naming rights, the ridiculous name came from attempting to appease the fans who didnt want SJP re-named.

 

[tommo84]

Sounds like a bit of a non-story to me. Like someone else already said, they have only been there since 1996, so its hardly disrespecting the club's great heritage or anything like that.

If Toon fans are pissed off about it one suspects that they are just convincing themselves its a bigger deal than it really is simply to perpetuate the idea that Mike Ashley is the devil, at a time when the club is in the best shape it has been since Sir Bobby Robson was in charge.

 

[DJS]

Didn't know Ashley was the Sports Direct Supremo.

Don't like them shops, everything is packed in way too tightly making it hard to find anything.

Plus the stuff I like the look of is always really high up meaning you have to get a member of staff to use a pole to get it down. :evil:

 

[TheChosenOne]

He was photo papped recently near here in Hoddesdon a few weeks ago with his ex-wife (who he paid off years ago with something like £50mill) Back on again apparently.

His chauffeur driven Bentley was parked outside the Indian restaurant near Rye House,

-classy !

 

[VegasII]

Do you reckon he ate the ruby in the back of the Bentley?

 

[Dougal]

Given, if i were a toon fan i'd be very happy at the league position their in, but they all still hate Ashley.

No point telling him, he left St James' a couple of years ago.

 

[3Dnata]

Ashley has done a good job considering the bad financial shape the club was in when he took over.

Hes got rid of the big earning past prime players. Brought in cheaper hungrier players. Has a decent young manager. The club is running with sustainability in mind.

35m was good business for Carroll too.

This is the way I see it.
I have a rather unreasonable view to us when we don't get any expensive new toys during the transfer window but i really think the toon could be beneath the status of Portsmouth if it weren't for Ashley.

 

[mpickard2087]

This is the way I see it.
I have a rather unreasonable view to us when we don't get any expensive new toys during the transfer window but i really think the toon could be beneath the status of Portsmouth if it weren't for Ashley.

Yeh Newcastle would have been fucked royally if Ashley hadnt kept bankrolling them when they were in the Championship despite the (wheher it was right or wrong) hate campaign that was going on against him. The wage bill was out of control, and players didnt even have standard clauses like 25% wage reduction when they were relegated which made it worse.

 

[jamesc0le]

Newcastle profit from Pardew's methodical approach



Post categories: Football, football tactics
Alistair Magowan - BBC Sport | 16:46 UK time, Thursday, 13 October 2011



One of the hard truths about football coaching is that while many managers recognise the value of defensive discipline and team shape, spending hours doing it on the training pitch is a sure-fire method for ensuring most of the team get bored.
Newcastle, who have hardly been known for their strength in this area in recent years, have come up with a straightforward solution which has kept their players switched on and helped earn them the title of the Premier League's meanest defence heading into this weekend's fixtures.
Twice a week manager Alan Pardew splits his training sessions into two and drags his defenders away to work on positioning and covering and, while it is not exactly rocket science, the regularity of the sessions is clearly making an impact.

The Newcastle defence has significantly improved since last season.


First-team coach Steve Stone says there have been several factors in the Magpies' success this season, which has seen them rise to fourth in the Premier League table.
But combining hard work on the training pitch, detailed video analysis and weekly "defenders' meetings" has led to the usually porous defence conceding only four goals in seven league games.
"Newcastle have been a bit gung-ho in the past with the centre-halves marauding forward and the like, but you can't really play like that in Premier League," Stone says.
"If you are out of position and you lose the ball, teams can cut through you so quickly. When you play Manchester United, Arsenal or Tottenham, for example, you are at your weakest when you have the ball, when you are attacking or when you have a corner.
"That's when they can hurt you because you are out of position so we try and make sure we are in position as much as possible.
"Me and [assistant manager] John Carver take the forwards, and the manager takes the defenders away and we've introduced certain principles into the tactics so that, for instance, it doesn't matter if Ryan Taylor was to play right-back or left-back, he knows exactly what he has to do adjacent to the positions that the centre-halves are in.
"Basically, the manager runs through every scenario of where the players should be when the ball is in a certain position, whether it's a wide area, a central area, a goal kick, or whatever.
"It is something that actually started to come together last season and the manager said we'd be better at it this season once they understood his principles."
Those sceptical of Newcastle's lofty position will argue that they have yet to face any of the Premier League's big sides this season.
The team's equilibrium will be put to the test when they play Tottenham on Sunday before they come up against Manchester United, Manchester City and Chelsea in the space of three weeks beginning in November.
But Stone, who was promoted to the first-team staff when Pardew replaced Chris Hughton last December, believes the squad has an added depth to combat those challenges.
The departures of Kevin Nolan, Andy Carroll, Jose Enrique and Joey Barton left some fans feeling that the club was going in the wrong direction, particularly as there was no big-name signing to replace the £35m Carroll.
In their places, however, the likes of Demba Ba, Gabriel Obertan and Sylvain Marveaux have all added extra pace to the side, while Yohan Cabaye has proven a perfect foil for Cheik Tiote in central midfield.
"We now have five or six strikers vying for two places so they know they need to do well otherwise they'll be out [of] the team," Stone adds. "Last year we had to play the same two strikers, the same wide men and we didn't have any options coming from the bench.
"Now it's very strong and we have good players available. Look at Dan Gosling, who is an England under-21 international - he couldn't get in the squad recently; Shane Ferguson too. That's another reason why we have started well, because we have a fighting team spirit."
There is still money in the pot to bring in another striker in January, Stone says, but he insists that any potential purchase will have to suit what the team needs. There will be no star signings for the sake of it.
That sort of reasoning, combined with praise from his players, gives the impression that Pardew has not only restored some method to the madness at Newcastle, but also a significant boost to his reputation.
After his sacking by Southampton in August 2010, Pardew's appointment was met with indifference by Newcastle fans last winter.
Yet Stone has been impressed with the former Reading, Charlton and West Ham boss and says his man-management is a real asset.
"Tactically, he is as good as anyone," says Stone. "Some managers dither on the sidelines and that can cost you, but he will change things because he believes in his own ability and his own decisions. Managers earn their corn on match days don't they?
"He's got to work with the team all week, but he speaks very well and speaks in a way that gets players on side with him. It's not a rollocking, it's asking them to do it rather than telling them to do it so everybody feels part of a group.
"He treats players like adults where I've seen other managers treat players like kids and they don't respond to that at all. He has been in the game a long time as a manager so it's not like he has stepped in at Newcastle and it's all new to him. He understands the game."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thefootballtacticsblog/2011/10/newcastle_profit_from_pardews.html