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hellava_tough

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This gives credence to my relegation comments earlier in this thread. Senior management is the problem here.

It also highlights financial constraints, which makes things worse.

Would I put money on them going down? Probably not as there are too many variables, currently, to offer a clear prediction.

But they're definitely in the 'conversation', so to speak.
 

Flashp

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This gives credence to my relegation comments earlier in this thread. Senior management is the problem here.

It also highlights financial constraints, which makes things worse.

Would I put money on them going down? Probably not as there are too many variables, currently, to offer a clear prediction.

But they're definitely in the 'conversation', so to speak.
I still disagree.

You get relegated on the pitch not in the boardroom or in the office, and their playing squad is still of a far superior quality to many other PL teams (unfortunately). They might underperform relative to the media and fans expectations, but that's still a far shout from relegation.
 

HildoSpur

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Seeing stuff like that makes me smile I gotta say. Arsenal are going backwards fast and it's just lovely to watch.
 

Danny1

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Seeing stuff like that makes me smile I gotta say. Arsenal are going backwards fast and it's just lovely to watch.

It's great isn't it. I just look across their team & it's full of bang average footballers. Their young English guys are average too apart from Saka:

Saka - Good young player.
Holding - Ok centre back. Not that young anymore.
Maitland-Niles - Really average, pushed to right back because he wasn't good enough in CM.
Nelson - An ok winger, that's it.
Willock - Not sure what this guy does, no pace, no strength & just a bit rubbish. Seems to be playing ACM but has nothing to offer.
Nketiah - Scored a whole 3 goals in the Championship, compare that to Abraham and the levels are staggeringly different.
Smith-Rowe - Comes with a big reputation but isn't doing much out on loan.
 

rossdapep

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True but Leeds were spending well outside their limits in the hope of future earnings.

Arsenal’s spending is within their limits but continue in this Manner and they will stagnate rather than face relegation, imo.
Sure, the spending is certainly very different.

Just highlighting the fact you're never too big to go down.

These were some of Leeds' players when they were relegated.

Robinson
Radebe
Kelly
Harte
Barmby
Viduka
Pennant
Alan Smith
Bakke
Seth Johnson
Duberry
Batty
Lennon
Milner

That was still a very good group of players, some of them were on high salaries, I imagine Vikduka was one of the highest earners in the league.

They weren't known for being a soft bunch either. Off-field issues helped their demise.

Not saying Arsenal will go down next year but once the rot sets in, it can worsen quickly, especially when you're not geared for a fight.
 

Timberwolf

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Sure, the spending is certainly very different.

Just highlighting the fact you're never too big to go down.

These were some of Leeds' players when they were relegated.

Robinson
Radebe
Kelly
Harte
Barmby
Viduka
Pennant
Alan Smith
Bakke
Seth Johnson
Duberry
Batty
Lennon
Milner

That was still a very good group of players, some of them were on high salaries, I imagine Vikduka was one of the highest earners in the league.

They weren't known for being a soft bunch either. Off-field issues helped their demise.

Not saying Arsenal will go down next year but once the rot sets in, it can worsen quickly, especially when you're not geared for a fight.
This is the thing.

They have a weak, imbalanced squad and have invested poorly. Very little leadership on the pitch and even less off it.

They also have one of the best strikers in the entire world. If you take his 20+ goals out of that team they will be extremely difficult to replace.

I think it's highly unlikely that they will get relegated, but it's not too hard to imagine them getting stuck in a negative spiral if they don't make some very shrewd signings over the next few windows.
 

Thewobbler

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Just looked at their fixtures. Apart from villa and norwich, they may find it tough to win a game.
 
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