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Tucker

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Jul 15, 2013
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It is apparently designated a competitive "Super Cup' by the FA and UEFA. It is, however, a competition historically valued so lowly by Arsenal that their 1971 double winning team opted out of it.
And if it was a draw, they used to share it back in the day as well! It’s a glorified friendly.
 

Marauder

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Aug 20, 2008
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It is apparently designated a competitive "Super Cup' by the FA and UEFA. It is, however, a competition historically valued so lowly by Arsenal that their 1971 double winning team opted out of it.

And it is so "super" that Erik Eh Hag has kicked them out of the 24/25 one.
 

TC18

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Jan 27, 2011
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I’m certain with a different manager they would have won the league this year. I just cannot get the hype of Arteta. I refuse to believe the players buy into his team talks. The assistant coaches must be top notch.
 

rossdapep

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Aug 25, 2011
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I think they may need to win something next season otherwise the wheels may start to come off.

Firstly, next season will be Arteta's 5th full season and 6th if you count when he joined.

By this point Klopp had already been in at least 6 finals and won the CL, League Cup and PL. He was still competing at this time too.

Arteta may have won the FA Cup but that was in his first few months and at some point that will have to stop being used as a sign to point to.

Secondly, with Poch we were on the rise for about 3-4 seasons and then declined after that, quite dramatically. Still got to a CL final.

The point is, Arteta will have to point to something soon such as a PL title or European trophy (or CL final to an extent) otherwise he'll reach the point where players get tired of his voice and training, knowing that it isn't leading to any success.

So let's all hope they have another disappointing end to next season as I think it'll be their last real good one.
 

Frozen_Waffles

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Jan 26, 2005
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I think they may need to win something next season otherwise the wheels may start to come off.

Firstly, next season will be Arteta's 5th full season and 6th if you count when he joined.

By this point Klopp had already been in at least 6 finals and won the CL, League Cup and PL. He was still competing at this time too.

Arteta may have won the FA Cup but that was in his first few months and at some point that will have to stop being used as a sign to point to.

Secondly, with Poch we were on the rise for about 3-4 seasons and then declined after that, quite dramatically. Still got to a CL final.

The point is, Arteta will have to point to something soon such as a PL title or European trophy (or CL final to an extent) otherwise he'll reach the point where players get tired of his voice and training, knowing that it isn't leading to any success.

So let's all hope they have another disappointing end to next season as I think it'll be their last real good one.
He's quirky (at best) and at worse he looks almost insane. I think he's been very lucky with injuries and somehow keeping certain situations (relatively) under the radar.

The majority of his signings have been less than impressive, considering the money spent.

I think his man management skills are poor. How he's dealt with Nkeitah, Partey, Ramsdale and now Aubameyang is questionable.

They have had a good season, but the cracks are there. Which Rice has covered imo.

Perhaps I'm clutching at straws here but the wheels could come off quickly. It'll be interesting if they can replicate the form they have showed this year.

Next season could be quite fun to watch from our pov.
 

allatsea

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Aug 31, 2012
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He's quirky (at best) and at worse he looks almost insane. I think he's been very lucky with injuries and somehow keeping certain situations (relatively) under the radar.

The majority of his signings have been less than impressive, considering the money spent.

I think his man management skills are poor. How he's dealt with Nkeitah, Partey, Ramsdale and now Aubameyang is questionable.

They have had a good season, but the cracks are there. Which Rice has covered imo.

Perhaps I'm clutching at straws here but the wheels could come off quickly. It'll be interesting if they can replicate the form they have showed this year.

Next season could be quite fun to watch from our pov.
All depends on the number and seriousness of any injuries. They have just finished a remarkable season injury wise and I can't see that repeating next season.
 

Insomnia

Twisted Firestarter
Jan 18, 2006
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He's quirky (at best) and at worse he looks almost insane. I think he's been very lucky with injuries and somehow keeping certain situations (relatively) under the radar.

The majority of his signings have been less than impressive, considering the money spent.

I think his man management skills are poor. How he's dealt with Nkeitah, Partey, Ramsdale and now Aubameyang is questionable.

They have had a good season, but the cracks are there. Which Rice has covered imo.

Perhaps I'm clutching at straws here but the wheels could come off quickly. It'll be interesting if they can replicate the form they have showed this year.

Next season could be quite fun to watch from our pov.
They will get their usual piss easy 4 or 5 fixtures, 4 probably being at home so that they can be given a leg up to a quick consistant start to the Season to get the collective confidence sky high, it seems a given to me.
 

thebenjamin

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Jul 1, 2008
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I think they may need to win something next season otherwise the wheels may start to come off.

Firstly, next season will be Arteta's 5th full season and 6th if you count when he joined.

By this point Klopp had already been in at least 6 finals and won the CL, League Cup and PL. He was still competing at this time too.

Arteta may have won the FA Cup but that was in his first few months and at some point that will have to stop being used as a sign to point to.

Secondly, with Poch we were on the rise for about 3-4 seasons and then declined after that, quite dramatically. Still got to a CL final.

The point is, Arteta will have to point to something soon such as a PL title or European trophy (or CL final to an extent) otherwise he'll reach the point where players get tired of his voice and training, knowing that it isn't leading to any success.

So let's all hope they have another disappointing end to next season as I think it'll be their last real good one.

Thing is they will spend big again this summer, once they buy a 100m number 9 their team is very complete. It's only really Guardiola standing in their way given the state of the league. Ages though if they spend another 200m and win nothing he's on thin ice.
 

leffe186

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Sep 2, 2004
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All depends on the number and seriousness of any injuries. They have just finished a remarkable season injury wise and I can't see that repeating next season.

Absolutely this. I think he’s done a great job to mould this team, but they were spectacularly lucky with injuries last year and won nothing. Massive missed opportunity that bears emphasizing, particularly considering the injury issues that Man U, Newcastle, us etc had.
 

Oh Teddy Teddy

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Aug 10, 2017
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Think they are well-positioned for when Guardiola leaves; but you'd hope in a year's time, a few other times will be able to challenge, too.
 

olliec

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Jun 20, 2012
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It’s Peps last season so I can see city going out with a huge bang. Can’t see Arsenal winning anything next season to be honest.
 

Col_M

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Feb 28, 2012
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Being a dick, doesn't disqualify him from having the potential of winning trophies. He just completed an excellent league campaign and got pipped by the greatest premiership team we've seen in years. You can't discount him because Arsenal. As much as I'd like to,
 

easley91

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Jan 27, 2011
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Being a dick, doesn't disqualify him from having the potential of winning trophies. He just completed an excellent league campaign and got pipped by the greatest premiership team we've seen in years. You can't discount him because Arsenal. As much as I'd like to,
And they improved from the year before with a UCL campaign thrown into the mix. Who's to say they won't improve again? Still think City will be too much until Pep goes, but Arsenal are likely to challenge again or be the closest to City with all the changes elsewhere at Chelsea, Liverpool, potentially United depending on ETH staying or going.

They're best placed out of everyone else and anyone who says otherwise has got their blinkers on. They were pretty much one win away from winning the league. ONE. That is a phenomenal season when you're up against City.
 

Cornpattbuck

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Jul 23, 2013
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And they improved from the year before with a UCL campaign thrown into the mix. Who's to say they won't improve again? Still think City will be too much until Pep goes, but Arsenal are likely to challenge again or be the closest to City with all the changes elsewhere at Chelsea, Liverpool, potentially United depending on ETH staying or going.

They're best placed out of everyone else and anyone who says otherwise has got their blinkers on. They were pretty much one win away from winning the league. ONE. That is a phenomenal season when you're up against City.

And yet we were only three points off that total in 16/17 and took a kicking for it.

Football can change quickly and they seem to have ridden a wave of weirdly positive press, lack of injuries, negative moments being quickly buried etc.

Excellent team but football is weird.

Hopefully they burn out next season, basically...
 

bubble07

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Dec 27, 2004
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I’m certain with a different manager they would have won the league this year. I just cannot get the hype of Arteta. I refuse to believe the players buy into his team talks. The assistant coaches must be top notch.

They are a well drilled club and have no obvious weakness apart from a proper centre forward. Its very annoying
 
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