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TOLBINY

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Palmer being out won't matter. Chelsea Arsenal is a friendly. They'll roll over like normal.

its down to us and united to stop them
Not sure why Utd would want to try to stop them and likely hand the tile to City or Liverpool?
 

RuskyM

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I hate to say this. But they deserve to win the league. I don’t want them to but I think they will and they deserve to.
If they win all their games from here on out, sure. I just don't think they will.
 

luRRka

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Not sure why Utd would want to try to stop them and likely hand the tile to City or Liverpool?
Because football teams aren't football fans and they don't purposely throw games to influence if rivals win the league or not. (They will still probably lose, but because they're shit, not because they don't want city/liverpool to win)
 

TOLBINY

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Because football teams aren't football fans and they don't purposely throw games to influence if rivals win the league or not. (They will still probably lose, but because they're shit, not because they don't want city/liverpool to win)
I didn't say they would throw the game, just don't see there is an incentive for them stopping Woolwich, unlike the Chelsea players in the Battle of The Bridge who have since stated that there was extra motivation in stopping Tottenham's pursuit of the title. I think it is human nature.
 

olliec

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Imagine how beautiful it would be if we are the team to piss on their parade! Will remember it for years to come like Chelsea remember pissing on ours.
 

cliff jones

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I hate to say this. But they deserve to win the league. I don’t want them to but I think they will and they deserve to.
Not that entirely subjective word again- you only ‘deserve’ to win the league if you finish top.

If City win their last six they will deserve it, simple as.
 

BorjeSpurs

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I hate to say this. But they deserve to win the league. I don’t want them to but I think they will and they deserve to.

I mean, if (big if) you win over 38 games it's hard to argue with.

But they have been extremely lucky with injuries and very fortunate in key games against big 6 opponents this season.

City (H) - Heavily deflected goal to win it.
United (H) - Deflected goal to win it, just a few min after United's winner was ruled offside by the smallest of margins.
Spurs (H) - Their two goals came from a freak own goal and a handball penalty.
Liverpool (H) - Alisson and VVD combining for a ridiculous error and Martinelli scores the winner in an empty net.
Chelsea (A)- 2-0 down in the 77 min when the Chelsea keeper passes it to Rice who scores in an empty net.
 

KirstyG

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I mean, if (big if) you win over 38 games it's hard to argue with.

But they have been extremely lucky with injuries and very fortunate in key games against big 6 opponents this season.

City (H) - Heavily deflected goal to win it.
United (H) - Deflected goal to win it, just a few min after United's winner was ruled offside by the smallest of margins.
Spurs (H) - Their two goals came from a freak own goal and a handball penalty.
Liverpool (H) - Alisson and VVD combining for a ridiculous error and Martinelli scores the winner in an empty net.
Chelsea (A)- 2-0 down in the 77 min when the Chelsea keeper passes it to Rice who scores in an empty net.
Lucky yes but they have deserved it in terms of the consistency and the quality of the football at times. All teams get some luck at times but it's how you use that momentum and take it forward, rather than get your luck and then mess up a guilt-edged chance. They've picked themselves up when we would have gone on a bad run and lost our heads etc (we absolutely haven't turned up in games against Chelsea etc whereas they did). Honestly it saddens me to say it but it is what it is.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I hate to say this. But they deserve to win the league. I don’t want them to but I think they will and they deserve to.
Yep I've said this for a while that bias aside they've been the best and most consistent team this season.

Ofc I'd love them to collapse and love City to win all their games but I honestly can't see it. I think the only way at this point Arsenal don't win the league is if we or tiny chance Man.U stop them.

I hate legohead and I hate Arsenal but they've been very consistent, Man.City have not been at their best this season at all but as usual the quality of their manager and squad gets them a ton of points and as for Liverpool I think they're lucky to be in the title race, I've not been that impressed with them and don't think they've been particularly better than us or Villa tbh.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I mean, if (big if) you win over 38 games it's hard to argue with.

But they have been extremely lucky with injuries and very fortunate in key games against big 6 opponents this season.

City (H) - Heavily deflected goal to win it.
United (H) - Deflected goal to win it, just a few min after United's winner was ruled offside by the smallest of margins.
Spurs (H) - Their two goals came from a freak own goal and a handball penalty.
Liverpool (H) - Alisson and VVD combining for a ridiculous error and Martinelli scores the winner in an empty net.
Chelsea (A)- 2-0 down in the 77 min when the Chelsea keeper passes it to Rice who scores in an empty net.
You can spin things like that for all teams but as you said in your first point if you win over 38 games you deserve it and being honest they've been the most consistent team in terms of their performances over the season.

That being said its not over yet...
 

KirstyG

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Not that entirely subjective word again- you only ‘deserve’ to win the league if you finish top.

If City win their last six they will deserve it, simple as.
I get it I certainly don't what to give them kudos or anything but through gritted teeth I have to say they have been the best team in the league in terms of the football and consistency. I want nothing better than to absolutely do them and them fall apart but this year feels different for them with Man C being predictable and Liverpool doing weird stuff.
 

BorjeSpurs

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You can spin things like that for all teams but as you said in your first point if you win over 38 games you deserve it and being honest they've been the most consistent team in terms of their performances over the season.

That being said its not over yet...
Really?

I used big 6 teams of which half of their biggest games is shown in my previous post?

You want more? What about Liverpool failing to score from this position in the 71st minute with Trent hitting the bar?

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Looking at the 8 players with the most minutes of the title contenders we find 7 from Arsenal, 1 from Liverpool and 0 from City.

No wonder you view them as the most consistent.

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easley91

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Ah I see some still refuse to give them any credit whatsoever.

They have consistently played some of the best stuff, scored the most goals and have one of the best defences. If they win it we can't argue it as they will have thoroughly deserved it.
 

southlondonyiddo

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Ah I see some still refuse to give them any credit whatsoever.

They have consistently played some of the best stuff, scored the most goals and have one of the best defences. If they win it we can't argue it as they will have thoroughly deserved it.
I’ll give them some credit when they fuck off back to Woolwich
 

rossdapep

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You need an element of luck to win titles - it's where I think we missed out on the title in 2017 as Chelsea in Europe would not have got as many points as they did.

But Arsenal have a considerable amount.

They haven' had any really significant injuries - all their real key players have stayed fit.
Played City when they were at their weakest.
Played Liverpool when they had a several players out.
Played Chelsea without Palmer.
Chelsea gifted them a point - a game in which I think would have been a bit of a crisis for them at the time had they lost.
Maddison and Son had to go off when we were at 2-2 and in the ascendancy, effectively halting our chance of beating them.
United went 2-1 up in the last minute only for the goal to be ruled out and tehy go and score 2 to win the game.

Played Wolves directly after the Bayern game, where they could be vulnerable, only for Wolves to miss several players through injury.
 

riggi

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Few regretting falling into the “let’s go overboard laughing at Arsenal” trap.
 
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