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Cambridge Spur

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I wasn’t sure where to write this but with this depressing and crazy world we live in at the moment are we in any danger of losing our name? I’m certainly no historian but with all this utter rubbish in the news and sports teams in America being forced to change their name and thus erasing history it makes me start to wonder. Did Harry Hotspur do or say something remotely offensive when he was alive? I know it sounds ridiculous and my apologies if this offends someone but I’m getting sick of all this rubbish. I’m all for positive change but please....
 

teok

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As far as I can tell, Harry Hotspur spent most of his time beating up the French, Scots, Welsh and Irish.

Which is fair enough. Nothing history-erasing about that. More akin to Dylan Hartley on a horse than anything.

Anyway, he then got cocky, overreached himself and suffered a heavy defeat in Shrewsbury. How very Spursy.
 

thekneaf

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I wasn’t sure where to write this but with this depressing and crazy world we live in at the moment are we in any danger of losing our name? I’m certainly no historian but with all this utter rubbish in the news and sports teams in America being forced to change their name and thus erasing history it makes me start to wonder. Did Harry Hotspur do or say something remotely offensive when he was alive? I know it sounds ridiculous and my apologies if this offends someone but I’m getting sick of all this rubbish. I’m all for positive change but please....
If you're referencing the Washington Redskins then this isn't analogous.

It would only be comparable if the second world war went quite differently, the Nazi's ruled England and then someone casually changed our real name to our self appointed nickname because it had a nice ring to it.
 

thecook

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As far as I can tell, Harry Hotspur spent most of his time beating up the French, Scots, Welsh and Irish.

Which is fair enough. Nothing history-erasing about that. More akin to Dylan Hartley on a horse than anything.

Anyway, he then got cocky, overreached himself and suffered a heavy defeat in Shrewsbury. How very Spursy.

I bet it was a cold and wet Wednesday evening too
 

Johnny J

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Our name? No.

Our identity? Definitely.
 

hellava_tough

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As far as I can tell, Harry Hotspur spent most of his time beating up the French, Scots, Welsh and Irish.

Which is fair enough. Nothing history-erasing about that. More akin to Dylan Hartley on a horse than anything.

Anyway, he then got cocky, overreached himself and suffered a heavy defeat in Shrewsbury. How very Spursy.

So a good run in Europe, but pretty useless in the domestic league.
 

Cambridge Spur

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If you're referencing the Washington Redskins then this isn't analogous.

It would only be comparable if the second world war went quite differently, the Nazi's ruled England and then someone casually changed our real name to our self appointed nickname because it had a nice ring to it.
More concerned about the Cleveland Indians, I love that movie...
 
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On penalties apparently

Actually, it was down to a spectacularly stupid own goal.

Hotspur lifted his visor to see what was going on and got an arrow in the face.

Probably not quite up there with the writer Saki - who, fearing that a lit fag-end might give away his company's positions, shouted 'Put that bloody cigarette out' and was promptly shot by a German sniper - but still a gloriously Tottenham-esque way to go out.
 
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