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I'd rather go with what we have. I do t want him blocking Japhets path.
Ah - guess you missed this then:I’d be the first to call someone out on a post which condemned a man for reporting suspected racist abuse, i say that as someone who almost got in a punch up with one of our own fans for racially abusing Son up at Stoke several years ago with DVD and cat eating comments.
No chance. Dickhead made false allegations about us racially abusing him
would not be welcome here. Ever.
Well if that poster genuinely believes rudiger was wrong to report what he felt he’d heard then he’s wrong, I agree with that. But the overriding sentiment in this thread has not been that in my opinion.No, literally read this page. Someone literally said they took being accused of racism personally.
Seems i had him on ignore, though I can’t think why as I don’t believe he’s ever irked me. But yes that isn’t good at all @ronspurs , his would you feel off a member of your family believed they suffered verbal abuse of any sort doing their job, would you want them to report it and have it investigated or would you want them to ignore it in case they were wrong?Ah - guess you missed this then:
Well if that poster genuinely believes rudiger was wrong to report what he felt he’d heard then he’s wrong, I agree with that. But the overriding sentiment in this thread has not been that in my opinion.
But It’s reasonable for him to think that’s the reason?I think people are taking it personally because after the investigation found no evidence, he then said our fans in the away game were booing him because he reported it, when he had no way of knowing that, especially given that booing opposition players at rivals who have got your own players sent off is one of the most common things in football.
I don’t disagree with what you say, I just want it to be a discussion, if it does keep taking place, which leads to something more constructive than what it currently is, which is basically a just a mess where people are conflating a lot of the information available with their own suppositions and preconceptions.I never said it was the overriding, I said it's been here though. And does keep creeping in. I wouldn't have mentioned it at first but a poster talked about it. Cause it keeps coming up. Thus this 'racism stuff' is not and cannot be a moot point.
As I said on a footballing level, I'd take him. Not my first choice but not a bad option. It does seem though, even if there is a minority of them, there are some of our fans who will hold the racism accusation against him. And that needs to be talked about and I will always call that out.
Is this the Rudiger thread or lessons on how to take the moral high ground?
Some of the bias confirmation bullshit I’m reading is pathetic. Rudiger said what he said. The outcome of the investigation came back with no charge to answer.
Even the staunch Rudiger ‘politically correct fan boys’ can appreciate this is quite the allegation to cast, especially when he was not 100% sure. He’s made an accusation which could potentially be life changing. He then felt the need to argue the toss even when the investigation was over. Common sense should have suggested diffusing the situation would have helped support his cause instead of ‘picking the scab’ once more with more media outbursts about THFC and fans of.
Whether you agreed or disagreed with the booing, surely you can see why fans may have felt slight aggrieved.
He fouled Sonny and got him sent off.
Spurs alongside the police watched hours and hours of footage. Had expert lip readers watching freeze-frame after freeze-frame.Why diffuse the situation if you in your heart of hearts feel like you've been racially abused?
It's so disconcerting to me that so many get this worked up about just the mere accusation of being called racist.
Spurs alongside the police watched hours and hours of footage. Had expert lip readers watching freeze-frame after freeze-frame.
Rudiger and his allegation was proven wrong. When im at work and I’ve been proven wrong I reluctantly bite the bullet, hold my hands up and apologise for my inaccuracies.
What I don’t do is, come back at a later date and insinuate that somebody or something (racism) has won.
I swear people would only be happy if he gave a press conference apologising and asking for forgiveness.I've been racially abused in the past but nothing has come of it, even with some of those times going to boards of people/people with power etc... I still know I was racially abused despite these people of power not being able to definitively prove it.
That's what's happened with Rudiger, in his eyes. He believes it. The investigation didn't find anything as proof. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, it means that they didn't find anything. And there's every chance there was nothing. But Rudiger feels that there was, and thus thinks that racism won. Completely fine for him to feel that way and in his position I would 1000% be the same and would want to keep fighting my case and sticking up for what I believe.