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Ange Postecoglou's comments on star who screamed at Lucas Bergvall speak volumes

mawspurs

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Guglielmo Vicario gave 18-year-old star Lucas Bergvall a piece of his mind in Tottenham's 1-1 draw with newly promoted Leicester

Source: Football London
 

tcyrus

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for 18 year old to get a dressing down like that and not react, shows the temperment of the kid , also what a player we've got
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Freddie

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It was a bad error and could have been costly so he needed to be called out on it. He has to learn quickly. But Vicario has to do the same with everyone and I didn't see him doing it with Romero so it kind of looks like you're acting tough by shouting at a kid but not to someone who's harder than you!
 

Locotoro

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It was a bad error and could have been costly so he needed to be called out on it. He has to learn quickly. But Vicario has to do the same with everyone and I didn't see him doing it with Romero so it kind of looks like you're acting tough by shouting at a kid but not to someone who's harder than you!
If you're talking about the goal we conceded I think that's a bit unfair. In real time it wouldn't have been obvious to those on the pitch that Romero was at fault for that goal, only on replay is it obvious to us watching. If you play the game then you kind of know everything moves so fast and you're concentrating on what you're supposed to be doing that it probably looked more like Porro lost his man than Romero walked past him. When they watched the recording back then they would have seen it clearly.

The difference with Bergval is that he was in possession, he didn't manage the situation very well, lost the ball and caused a goal conceding opportunity.

But in principal you're right, every player should be equal for criticism and praise.
 

Third Kit '87

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Bergvall made an excellent contribution when he came on. Yes, he lost the ball in a bad area once, but overall his play was adventurous and brave. If only other players would be as keen and hungry for the ball and to try to make things happen like this lad did then we wouldnt have been in the situation we were in
 

Henry Percy

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It was a bad error and within his (Bergvall's) control for a long moment. Vicario was right to call him out. Bergvall looks like he will be an amazing player but he is still learning and will make mistakes. However we can't afford brain farts like that. Could have cost us the match.
 

Daytripper

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Don’t blame Lucas much for this to be honest. He was given a terrible ball with two Leicester players already around him. He was given zero support once he’d received the ball, no one to pass too. If Vic wants to scream at someone it should be the others.
 
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teedee

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It was a bad error and within his (Bergvall's) control for a long moment. Vicario was right to call him out. Bergvall looks like he will be an amazing player but he is still learning and will make mistakes. However we can't afford brain farts like that. Could have cost us the match.
He wasn't right to scream like a banshee at him, though. Get a grip of him by all means, but use just a little restraint.
 

Henry Percy

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He wasn't right to scream like a banshee at him, though. Get a grip of him by all means, but use just a little restraint.
I agree seemed a bit much. I support the sentiment but not the execution.

Hopefully he had a chat after the game. In the heat of the moment though sometimes it just comes out too strong.
 

Henry Percy

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Don’t blame Lucas much for this to be honest. He was given a terrible ball with two Leicester players already around him. He was given zero support once he’d received the ball, no one to pass too. If Vic wants to scream at someone it should be the others.
I agree, it was a bad to pass to him in that situation but after that it was his decisions that made it much much worse. I think Vic was telling him not to try that when he has 2 players on him. He is learning and getting bollocking from the senior players should be part of the learning process and setting standards.

Also agree that he wasn't supported. Hopefully Ange will rip into those around him as to why he was so isolated.
 

crippsy251

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I'm sure Vic knows the temperament of the players around him, bergvall might respond best to a dressing down, doubt romero would take one well so would need a different kind of approach etc.

Treating people equally doesn't mean treating them the same, there all individuals.
 
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