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SpartanSpur

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As well as encouraging top players to stay. Can't blame Eriksen if he goes after our recent ambition ratings.

Some might shrug this off but I think it's true. One of the reasons I think Hazard has stayed at Chelsea for so long is because the club freshens up the squad with exciting players so often. I think there's something to be said for the consistency and togetherness our group has but things can get stale if you aren't careful. I appreciate the stadium can achieve some of this, but adding a quality player or two would go a long way also...
 

mil1lion

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We will lose experienced players regardless. Once a top club come in and they're at a point where they want to leave for one of the best clubs in the world they will leave. That's the situation we are in with Toby and Eriksen. The younger players are not so bad because they can afford to be patient. Make no mistake it doesn't matter who we sign, we will lose top players from time to time. Liverpool lost Coutinho and Suarez to Barca, Arsenal have lost players to the same club, I think Chelsea will lose Hazard to Real Madrid. I don't know how we can be any different. It would take years of winning trophies before we can keep our top players leaving. Even then they may leave (Sevilla won multiple Europa League trophies but still lose top players).

I think Rabiot fits into the same boat as many others. We may have the exception with some of the local lads like Kane and Winks. But there will come a time when others will leave. I'm not even concerned either, it's the nature of the sport. As long as we don't sell to our direct rivals I'm happy. It's more a matter of keeping the cogs turning so we're better prepared when we lose a player. So we may sign Rabiot and keep him a few years, then he may leave for Barca. It's not a big issue though because we already have Winks so we just sign one more (unless an academy player breaks through). It needs to be the same for Eriksen too. The lack of creative central midfielders means not only do we lack depth in that department now, but we're less prepared if we lose one. At least if Toby leaves we have signed Sanchez and Foyth in recent seasons.

It just feels like a long time since signing a ball playing midfielder. It's not even like we haven't identifyed it as an issue either (persuing Barkley and Grealish). It just seems pretty staggering that we didn't identify an alternative in the time we missed out on Grealish and this window.
 

RichieS

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We've known all along that ENIC were building the club up in order to make a big profit on a future sale. The stadium was always going to be the final piece in that particular puzzle. As soon as that was nearly ready, ENIC were going to be looking for buyers. You really don't need to have been ITK on that to know it. They are an investment company- it even says so right in their name!

The fact is though, that the club is in a much better position thanks to Lewis/Levy/ENIC than it was before they took over. When they sell, it's the new owners who will (hopefully) be investing in the team- there will be nowhere else that needs working on.

In the meantime, anyone who thinks Spurs under ENIC were ever going to spend money on transfers that hasn't been brought in through sales either hasn't been watching, or doesn't understand what they have been seeing.

This is why I am perfectly happy with the way Poch works and the lack of signings coming in. Get the ones he wants or don't get anybody. ENIC's time is coming to an end, and now we just have to hope that they sell to someone who genuinely cares about the club. I don't know how people aren't seeing it, it's been perfectly clear to me for several years what has been happening and what the plan was, and I'm in the know about nothing.

The groundwork for turning Spurs into genuine contenders has pretty much been done. Unless they sell to someone who has no interest in pushing the club on, the future of the club is bright. It was always the plan for it to be this way, and yes, ENIC/Levy/Lewis are looking to make a huge profit from the work they've done, but let's not for one second pretend that the work that's been done hasn't put the club into a great position for the future.

It's the job of the next owners to bring in the best players and compete for the trophies. ENIC were never about that. It was always about the future, not the present. ENIC are in their endgame now, and that future is nearly upon us. A little bit of patience and a little bit of hope that we get the right new owners is really all that's required.

I'm neither BSoDL nor the opposite- I am grateful for the good things he has done for the club, and disappointed in his mistakes. But the club is definitely in a much better position in every single aspect than it was when he took over as chairman. The promised land might be just round the corner, or it might not, but ENIC were never going to be the owners to take us to it. They were always going to be the owners that took us to the border and then handed the club on to the owners whose job it will be to actually take us over that border.
This is the post. Well done @pffft!
 

dtxspurs

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Only to 80 pages. Look forwarding to seeing the same thread in May when Rabiot is looking to move for a free!
 

C0YS

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Some might shrug this off but I think it's true. One of the reasons I think Hazard has stayed at Chelsea for so long is because the club freshens up the squad with exciting players so often. I think there's something to be said for the consistency and togetherness our group has but things can get stale if you aren't careful. I appreciate the stadium can achieve some of this, but adding a quality player or two would go a long way also...
Huh Hazard has been at Chelsea only one more season than Eriksen and had (maybe still does?) wanted out for some time.

Similarly I think regularly winning trophies helped him stay more than squad changes.

Success and good team dynamic are what get players to stay. Signings can help but they can also shake things up too much. Depends.
 

dtxspurs

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So going into next summer I'm guessing our top 3 CM choices will be Rabiot, Kovacic & Ndombele. I do wonder what will happen with Kovacic at Chelsea if they want to try to bring him back or not.
 

ackie

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I thought that Rabiot could be the last minute loan/buy depending on selling N'koudou and VJ.
He's very good, young and cheap.
But i think poch may not like his attitude which might affect our changing room.
Anyhow poch has said he doesn't expect new signings
 

Univarn

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I thought that Rabiot could be the last minute loan/buy depending on selling N'koudou and VJ.
He's very good, young and cheap.
But i think poch may not like his attitude which might affect our changing room.
Anyhow poch has said he doesn't expect new signings
I think the general consensus is that he is fine it's his mom/agent that is the difficult one. That said given his family has had two major losses in the last week I doubt they decide in the middle of mourning to make a huge career altering decision.

He'll go somewhere for free in the summer like a Juve or Bayern who will pay him 300k a week and guarantee him a starting spot and that will be that.
 

coy-spurs1882

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I thought that Rabiot could be the last minute loan/buy depending on selling N'koudou and VJ.
He's very good, young and cheap.
But i think poch may not like his attitude which might affect our changing room.
Anyhow poch has said he doesn't expect new signings
if rabiot is not interested in joining us then gkn and vj leaving won't make any difference at all...
 

spids

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if rabiot is not interested in joining us then gkn and vj leaving won't make any difference at all...

Not with Rabiot joining this window, but with freeing up space in the squad and being able to move on transfers for the summer window now without having to wait and see who we can sell.
 

spids

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I thought that Rabiot could be the last minute loan/buy depending on selling N'koudou and VJ.
He's very good, young and cheap.
But i think poch may not like his attitude which might affect our changing room.
Anyhow poch has said he doesn't expect new signings

Info suggests that Poch did want him and even spoke to him, but that the player does not want to join us.
 

Ron Burgundy

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So going into next summer I'm guessing our top 3 CM choices will be Rabiot, Kovacic & Ndombele. I do wonder what will happen with Kovacic at Chelsea if they want to try to bring him back or not.

Rabiot I think will be unlikely to change his mind...though I suppose if no one else is there

Kovacic - not exactly blown the lights out at Chelsea

Ndombele will go to City I reckon

Think we might need to widen the net
 
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