A Warning regarding Ratings

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thecook

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Good, was getting fucking annoying.

I've alaso notice a lot of new users giving spam ratings on posts lately.
 

Gassin's finest

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If it came with a 50% pay rise.

£0 x 50%

Hmmm... Still no then.
Come now, we know its not about the money for you, it's about the power. The power and hubris you feel when the huddled masses of SC swarm around your feet, pleading up at you "please help me Dougal, please let me back in, I'll be good... please," and you, satisfyingly and perversely, with a wide grin on your face, and knowing that you have the power to aid them, whisper down "no..."
 

freeeki

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The amount of grown men seeing their arses over a rating on a football forum is fucking embarrassing tbh.

Let’s hope we either sign someone soon, or that everyone gets laid, or both.
 

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Come now, we know its not about the money for you, it's about the power. The power and hubris you feel when the huddled masses of SC swarm around your feet, pleading up at you "please help me Dougal, please let me back in, I'll be good... please," and you, satisfyingly and perversely, with a wide grin on your face, and knowing that you have the power to aid them, whisper down "no..."
Ok, that’s what happens.
 

dagraham

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The amount of grown men seeing their arses over a rating on a football forum is fucking embarrassing tbh.

Let’s hope we either sign someone soon, or that everyone gets laid, or both.
There is the danger though they might want to rate that...... and not be too happy with the rating they get in return :D.
 

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So what's the point in having them then?
There's nothing wrong with having them but seeing people get upset by them is pretty funny, especially when people then quote the person who's given them the rating demanding an explanation.

Maybe it's just me but I find it hilarious when somebody gets mad enough to spend a large chunk of time going through somebodies posts spamming them as if it's going to have any effect on the person they're doing it to. Do they honestly think they're teaching the person a lesson by showing how rattled they are to spend the time to do that?
 

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There's nothing wrong with having them but seeing people get upset by them is pretty funny, especially when people then quote the person who's given them the rating demanding an explanation.

Maybe it's just me but I find it hilarious when somebody gets mad enough to spend a large chunk of time going through somebodies posts spamming them as if it's going to have any effect on the person they're doing it to. Do they honestly think they're teaching the person a lesson by showing how rattled they are to spend the time to do that?
Which reinforces the point, why have them?
 

wrd

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Which reinforces the point, why have them?
Well they're pretty easy ways to let a user know the general consensus of their post without 40 replying the same points to debate them. If somebody gets a lot of spam ratings for example then that person can know their post has no relevance to the thread they're in so they should cease taking the conversation that direction or even delete their post.
 

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Personally, I couldn't give a flying f***about negs but a lot of people get very charged up about them so the new guideline is a good one if it stops conversations turning into debates about negative ratings.
 

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The "negative" ratings shouldn't be so close to the quote and reply buttons, ideally.
I think the ‘like’ icon should be placed at the extreme right end so that any ‘accidental’ ratings would turn out to be ‘like’ ratings instead of ‘spam’ ratings.
 

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For me I think it is the consistent malevolent spammers are the most annoying.

The ones I refer to are those lurkers never have input to any thread on this site.

I honestly believe they are not in tune with the vibe and/or the online personalities that have evolved in here.
And also those without any funny bones in their bodies.
 

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Which reinforces the point, why have them?
I find them quite useful. I might want to express simple agreement or appreciation for a post without adding anything further to it. It would be a shame not to be able to do this. A simple rating can assert a position. It also acknowledges the contribution of the member who made the post. In normal conversation we might say things like "yes I agree", or "good point" or "that's really interesting", or we laugh at a funny joke, but such remarks hardly warrant a post of their own in every case - that's where ratings come in.
 

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Well they're pretty easy ways to let a user know the general consensus of their post without 40 replying the same points to debate them. If somebody gets a lot of spam ratings for example then that person can know their post has no relevance to the thread they're in so they should cease taking the conversation that direction or even delete their post.
Not always the case though is it?

People abuse it yet add fuck all to a debate, it happens all the time.
 

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I find them quite useful. I might want to express simple agreement or appreciation for a post without adding anything further to it. It would be a shame not to be able to do this. A simple rating can assert a position. It also acknowledges the contribution of the member who made the post. In normal conversation we might say things like "yes I agree", or "good point" or "that's really interesting", or we laugh at a funny joke, but such remarks hardly warrant a post of their own in every case - that's where ratings come in.
I clearly might be out on a limb with my view on 'why have them at all then'. Easier to hit a button I guess.
 

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Not always the case though is it?

People abuse it yet add fuck all to a debate, it happens all the time.
Well yeah hence why the admins have made a post saying people are using it wrong, people have been warned now, you have to now see if people can fall in line or they'll get banned.
 

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Actually looking back for the first time at the ratings I’ve given over 15 relatively quiet but engaged years here is quite voyeuristic (weirdly, considering I’m looking at myself) and very illuminating.

787 ratings given, of which only 20 negative. I think online me is much nicer than I really am :)

Also made me realise how long I’ve been a member of this site. And how much I appreciate Rob and the Mods’ work over the years x
787 ratings in 15 years is about 1 per week.

Rather stingy
 

Vinny_Sammways_left_peg

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Well yeah hence why the admins have made a post saying people are using it wrong, people have been warned now, you have to now see if people can fall in line or they'll get banned.
It'll probably all sort itself out, it nearly always does on here.
 

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I clearly might be out on a limb with my view on 'why have them at all then'. Easier to hit a button I guess.
I don't think it's just a case of it being "easier to hit a button" although that sometimes comes into it. But it has practical advantages beyond that. Imagine 20 members wish to register their agreement with a post but have nothing further to add to it. The rating system is a much tidier way of allowing them to do this than each of those members leaving a post in the thread to confirm they agree.
 

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There seems to be some sort of misunderstanding here. This isn’t about ratings given accidentally or even the odd spam rating given stupidly.......this is about people getting the itch with another member who might have given them a negative/spam rating or something and then going through their posts giving out a heap of negative ratings in retaliation which then escalates into a tit-for-tat mass ratings spree. It's abusing the system, it's not there for that (and as we're seeing, creates murders). It's been in the rules ever since we introduced ratings.

I understand the frustration when it doesn't get used fairly but that's just always going to happen and people shouldn't think they can start reporting undeserved or stupidly given ratings and expect the mods to do something about it because that's not going to happen. It'd literally be a full time job.
 
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