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Match Prediction

  • Spurs to Win

    Votes: 251 91.3%
  • Spurs to Lose

    Votes: 12 4.4%
  • Score Draw

    Votes: 11 4.0%
  • Goal-less Draw

    Votes: 1 0.4%

  • Total voters
    275
  • Poll closed .

DEFchenkOE

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Is there such a thing as daymares? Literally anytime I close my eyes a bit I see that ball flying past Hugo's hand into the top bins. Someone make it stop ?
 

Phomesy

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So now your blaming him for a goal that occurred in a different phase of play that wasn't his fault.

Serge has been on the end of some very dodgy ref calls this season. He may have a rep but that doesn't excuse poor refereeing. There were at least 3 fouls called on him that were nowhere near fouls.
 

ardiles

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There were barely seconds left before the full time whistle, and we still had two opportunities to avoid their equaliser but we fluffed them both.

Firstly, Aurier could have hit the ball, as far forward as he could , but he wanted a second touch which then resulted in a free free kick.

Secondly, Winks had the opportunity to kick the ball into row Z but then tried to be clever (not) by playing the ball which he lost control of.


If it was Kane or Dier , they would have smashed the ball as far away from our goal as possible and that would have allowed the seconds to trickle down.
 

Guernman

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Aug 24, 2013
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Those closing minutes were some of the most painful I have ever experienced as a Spurs fan.

But, only because it ruined what was such a beautiful match up until that point. Some absolutely breath-taking attacking football and a game we were totally in control of. Bale comes on, and was inches from scoring a classic goal that would have been the perfect and fitting end to it all.

But alas, this is football, and this sort of thing can happen. Perhaps it is just what our team needs, that slap of reality and the realisation that you can never take anything for granted.

What I find really really encouraging though are our performances since Everton. I was far from convinced that Jose was going to improve us as we had no sense of identy when we played. It seemed the players weren't sure what they were supposed to be doing, and the expectation was simply more anti-football.

I couldn't have been more wrong. The reason Dele is finding it hard to even get on the bench would seem to be Jose's evolution of quick one touch transitions - Dele too often slows things down. The speed and beauty of our attacks now things are clicking are incredible. The build up to Kane hitting the post for his hatrick was simply sublime. The last thing I expected at this stage was to be praising Jose's transformation of our attacking prowess.

And that is what is so encouraging. It is clear that we have weaknesses in defence, but while this may take longer to fix, this is exactly where Mourinho's strength is supposed to lie. Yesterday was devasting because we deserved so much better on Bale's long awaited return. But I am genuinely excited about what this team is going to achieve under Mourinho.
 

SargeantMeatCurtains

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As ridiculous as it sounds, I’ve finally calmed down.

I think the thing I found the hardiest to “get over” was the fact that, after 15 minutes, I felt we looked like the side that could finally win the league. There was complete and utter domination on the pitch and that was without Bale. I assumed we’d go on to win by 5 or 6 again.

Instead there was a total surrender in the second half but even then, the way West Ham got back into the game was a complete and utter fluke. We’ve had very little luck this season and you just have to think it’ll change soon. If we get that defence sorted, I think we can challenge, which is more than what any of us expected.
 

rossdapep

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Need to start disrupting the flow of the game more when the tide starts to turn like after the first goal. Nothing I would expect a Mourinho side to be bad at.
Play for silly fouls, time waste, get in the refs face a bit and make tactical fouls.

It's not pretty but every championship winning team does stuff like that.
 

Japhet

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As ridiculous as it sounds, I’ve finally calmed down.

I think the thing I found the hardiest to “get over” was the fact that, after 15 minutes, I felt we looked like the side that could finally win the league. There was complete and utter domination on the pitch and that was without Bale. I assumed we’d go on to win by 5 or 6 again.

Instead there was a total surrender in the second half but even then, the way West Ham got back into the game was a complete and utter fluke. We’ve had very little luck this season and you just have to think it’ll change soon. If we get that defence sorted, I think we can challenge, which is more than what any of us expected.

I think we need to catch a few breaks at the back. We've had bad luck and crap decisions one after another so far this season.
 

rossdapep

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As ridiculous as it sounds, I’ve finally calmed down.

I think the thing I found the hardiest to “get over” was the fact that, after 15 minutes, I felt we looked like the side that could finally win the league. There was complete and utter domination on the pitch and that was without Bale. I assumed we’d go on to win by 5 or 6 again.

Instead there was a total surrender in the second half but even then, the way West Ham got back into the game was a complete and utter fluke. We’ve had very little luck this season and you just have to think it’ll change soon. If we get that defence sorted, I think we can challenge, which is more than what any of us expected.
Perhaps the players started to feel the same too.

I do remember thinking "this is too easy" and when you're cutting teams up so easily and frequently I suppose it can lead to a bit of carelessness.
 

SargeantMeatCurtains

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Perhaps the players started to feel the same too.

I do remember thinking "this is too easy" and when you're cutting teams up so easily and frequently I suppose it can lead to a bit of carelessness.
Yeah totally agree. I think the fanfare behind Bale didnt help either. We were having a bad second half even before Bale came on and you’d forgive them for thinking “right, Bale is on. We can’t lose now.” Controversially, there’d an argument to be had that Mourinho was wrong to bring on Bale given the struggles we were having defensively. If Bale wasn’t available, I’m almost certain Davies would’ve come on first and either slipped into a back five or switched places with Reguilon.
 

shelfboy68

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As ridiculous as it sounds, I’ve finally calmed down.

I think the thing I found the hardiest to “get over” was the fact that, after 15 minutes, I felt we looked like the side that could finally win the league. There was complete and utter domination on the pitch and that was without Bale. I assumed we’d go on to win by 5 or 6 again.

Instead there was a total surrender in the second half but even then, the way West Ham got back into the game was a complete and utter fluke. We’ve had very little luck this season and you just have to think it’ll change soon. If we get that defence sorted, I think we can challenge, which is more than what any of us expected.
The first half showed why we could win the league, the last 8 mins showed why we can't or won't.
 

Matrix

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If Lamela comes on Instead of Moura, we don’t drop 2 points. Shame he was out injured. Could have done with his tenacity in the last 10 mins, not to mention his shithousing.
 

shelfboy68

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It’s frustrating because if we can sort out our weakness from set pieces we’ll be set.
Tell me about it, I have had hammer fan's telling me today that they feared a spanking like utd and we will tear many teams a new one going forward.
But we are weak at the back and other side's will target this, Jose will need to work hard on the defence that's for sure.
I have watched Sanchez header from yesterday's game a couple of times and still can't understand what he was doing under no real pressure, these unforced errors need to stop it's what is holding us back.
 

sparx100

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It still fucks me off. How many goals do we concede from set pieces?
I still maintain that with Dier we don't lose (I am not his biggest fan) but Sanchez and Toby have both regressed for different reasons. For me Rodon needs to be tried out as soon as possible as Sanchez is just not improving and Toby is just not dominant anymore. Skriniar needs ro be warned up for January.
 

sparx100

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I think we need to catch a few breaks at the back. We've had bad luck and crap decisions one after another so far this season.
I don't think that we can blame those things for a lot of the goals we concede. Just poor defensive errors in the main.
 

Mark_147

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It still fucks me off. How many goals do we concede from set pieces?
I still maintain that with Dier we don't lose (I am not his biggest fan) but Sanchez and Toby have both regressed for different reasons. For me Rodon needs to be tried out as soon as possible as Sanchez is just not improving and Toby is just not dominant anymore. Skriniar needs ro be warned up for January.
The only game we've lost this season is with Toby and Dier and the back.
 

slartibartfast

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I just thought, I bet Dyche is pissed off about the result. He'll be fearing a backlash on Monday.
Need to score at least 4 though because there'll be loads of set pieces and balls into the box so no chance we keep a clean sheet :(
 
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Mr Pink

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I just thought, I bet Dyche is pissed off about the result. He'll be fearing a backlash on Monday.
Need to score at least 4 though because there'll be loads of set pieces and balls into the box so no fkin chance we keep a clean sheet :(

Yeah we'll no doubt concede but we'll batter Burnley.

Think I'll tripple captain kane for it.
 

buckley

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I still dont get some having a pop at Sissoko for the loss. For me theSissoko and Ndombele were in total control of the midfield up to the subs coming on .
You have a team 3'0 up and the manager decides to change the team I find it difficult in this case to blame the team for me Jose should have stuck with what was working after all we were up until the subs in cruise control.
If he made changes with Thursday in mind then he should have faith in our extended squad to manage the Europa League .
For me you make changes when someone is injured or someone is having a mare or you are losing and need to try something different .
Myself if he had left the team as it was we would have won . Right or wrong that is my thoughts on subs and in this match if there is blame to be apportioned then it lies as Jose's door .
 

rossdapep

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Tell me about it, I have had hammer fan's telling me today that they feared a spanking like utd and we will tear many teams a new one going forward.
But we are weak at the back and other side's will target this, Jose will need to work hard on the defence that's for sure.
I have watched Sanchez header from yesterday's game a couple of times and still can't understand what he was doing under no real pressure, these unforced errors need to stop it's what is holding us back.
I don't think we are as weak as it's being made out. During restart, barring the Sheff Utd game, we were relatively sound.

I think if we come up against a team with a lot of threat we will negate it. But against weaker teams we may go for it.

We do have issues but we aren't brittle or disorganised, we just have moments of silly mistakes or lapses in concentration.

I'm pretty sure if Jose prepared the team to be super defensive and organised we would be solid, just like we were against Arsenal, Leicester last season.

I think he's trying to strike the perfect balance and on recent results where we've just hammered teams he's probably taken some of the shackles off as we've enough of a threat to do that. We would have done that to West Ham yesterday too had Bale's strike gone in or Sissoko had bothered to make an attempt to stop Balbuena.
 
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