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Jose Mourinho

How do you feel about Mourinho appointment

  • Excited - silverware here we come baby

    Votes: 666 46.7%
  • Meh - will give him a chance and hope he is successful

    Votes: 468 32.8%
  • Horrified - praying for the day he'll fuck off

    Votes: 292 20.5%

  • Total voters
    1,426

Gilzeanking

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May 7, 2005
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I still think about Poch from time to time and seeing Levy buying needed players to bolster our squad, I can only imagine how Poch is feeling right now.

Looking forward to his massive payday at Utd in a month or two ?...Or still managing the investments on his whopping 12-13 mill compensation from us .
 

buckley

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Sep 15, 2012
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In fairness Poch.s record with signings os not a good read off the top of my head Sessegnon and Foyth pretty average .
As for Jose did I want ? no. Did I think he would be good for us ? no Would I like his style of play? no
Was I supportive of him ? yes 100%
I am now in a position where those four questions are irrelevant because I have to say I have done a 100% turn around because now my opinion is Do I want Jose ? yes Do I think he will be good for us ? yes Will I like his style of play ? yes
I am of course still 100% supportive of him .
Some would say I am a hypocrite I would say I am not to proud to admit being wrong about the man I have not been this exited about what our club could achieve since the Nicholson / Burkenshaw days .
 

Shadydan

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Jul 7, 2012
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I do think Poch installed a bit of nastiness/ dark arts into us though. I definitely remember fans saying we had a more nasty edge to us under Poch and how we were far to soft a touch prior to him coming in (it feels like that soft touch thing has been said about us for decades)

I think it was at its height during the period where we saw some of Alli’s more blatant dives. Not turning this into a Poch v Mourinho thing as I think Jose, as shown in the documentary, is keen to drill this into us which is great imo but I do think Poch moved us on in that regards from being a really nicey nicey team to a side with a bit of edge and that was willing to cheat/bend the rules a bit.

Like I say, though, I think Mourinho has stepped this up and like you it makes me smile seeing us do it to teams as opposed to it being done to us.

I think after we went out to Juve we started doing it albeit not consistently, I remember in the Barca game at the Nou Camp and being really annoyed at certain parts in the match where we should have really made more of those situations, I think Poch was aware of it because he made reference to it after the Juve match but we never really put it into practice.
 

E17yid

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Jan 21, 2013
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I think after we went out to Juve we started doing it albeit not consistently, I remember in the Barca game at the Nou Camp and being really annoyed at certain parts in the match where we should have really made more of those situations, I think Poch was aware of it because he made reference to it after the Juve match but we never really put it into practice.

Yeah I think that’s fair. I do think he did put it into practice, though, it’s just that being a **** was something Poch wanted the players to be like sometimes but with Mourinho being a **** is obviously a core principle in his footballing philosophy.
 

Shanks

Kinda not anymore....
May 11, 2005
31,159
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I’ll be honest and say I’ve never liked Mourinho and his time at Utd seemed to produce really negative football - all be it with results.

watxhing our Amazon doc, got to see a more intimate side to him and he comes across as very genuine - I like humble people, it surprised me.

seems he’s also laying down his marker on the team.

I go back to mersons commentary about Kane not going to score much under mourinho and for a while I was worried about the same, especially OST season with some of our football, getting very few chances per game.

although, with hindsight, you can see it was down to the players and injuries we had, give him the team and he’ll win.

very, very excited about spurs, and co soldering after the Everton game I almost resigned us to another shitty season.

COYS
 

rez9000

Any point?
Feb 8, 2007
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21,098
Looking forward to read what Oliver 'turd-boy' Holt has to say about that performance.
I think his nickname may soon be 'Lot's Wife'.

I'm not going to explain that, but guaranteed if you chaps look it up on the Googleiser, you'll have yourself a right jolly guffaw.
 

Aay_Jay_Dee

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Mar 18, 2005
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When it was the 90th minute and every player was still closing down and running full pelt I knew they had now all bought into Jose's values. Hes made this his team, they now have belief and desire and I am so excited for whats to come.
 

rez9000

Any point?
Feb 8, 2007
11,942
21,098
In fairness Poch.s record with signings os not a good read off the top of my head Sessegnon and Foyth pretty average .
As for Jose did I want ? no. Did I think he would be good for us ? no Would I like his style of play? no
Was I supportive of him ? yes 100%
I am now in a position where those four questions are irrelevant because I have to say I have done a 100% turn around because now my opinion is Do I want Jose ? yes Do I think he will be good for us ? yes Will I like his style of play ? yes
I am of course still 100% supportive of him .
Some would say I am a hypocrite I would say I am not to proud to admit being wrong about the man I have not been this exited about what our club could achieve since the Nicholson / Burkenshaw days .
Hypocrisy, buckers me old china, is believing one thing and saying another. It's not hypocrisy to change one's mind. Wise people are happy to change their minds if they are presented with evidence that alters their thinking.
 

wrd

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Aug 22, 2014
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If I get bored in the next couple of weeks, I'm deff doing a video edit of our attacking contingent. Except my music will be a different choice to the usual you get on a player highlight video. I prefer more specificity which relates to how much firepower we have.

 

Athenspur

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Aug 8, 2019
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Ι only saw fragments of the MU game because of work, but it looked like we rediscovered our high pressing game, and played some beautiful possession football (albeit with 11 men against 10).
I also saw this happen against Chelsea after we conceded first, and it totally changed the feel of this team.
In any case, Mou's influence seems to grow by the day, and this past week saw the end of stagnation football and negative tactics. Suddenly we are a herd of wolves, not sheep.
Was it Bale's return that changed the atmosphere around the club, as a statement of ambition? Or possibly the rise of Ndombele, which showed that Mou's behind the scenes tactics work? The slight change in Kane's role? Dier's blind determination? Lamela's aggro? Sonny's finishing? Hojbjerg? Reguilon? Aurier? Levy's backing of the manager? The Chelsea result? The confidence built around victories over top-6 teams despite starting with a goal down? The savvy rotation that helped the team stay fresh and push on? Players playing hard through fatigue and injuries without complaints? Coming throught three tricky rounds of Europa knockout games unscathed? The Dele saga?
All of the above?
In any case, Mou is the star man these days and for one I am very very glad to admit I was wrong, and too quick to ask for his head when it looked like we were going nowhere. I am eating my words and my hat as we speak. We are definitely going somewhere, and it might even be sunny.
 

Hazelton

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Jul 11, 2011
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Setting ourselves up to be a typical Mourinho team now. Defence is still a little bit suspect but improving game by game.

Hojbjerg
Ndombele - Lo Celso
Bale -----‐--------------------- Son
Kane​

If those six stay fit, it's as good as any midfield and attack that have won the league in previous seasons. Add Reguilon and Doherty/Aurier bombing up either side and that has unreal potential.
 

yido-1989

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Jun 29, 2013
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Wizzy77

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Sep 1, 2019
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I love the fact Jose has setup 2 players competing for most positions.. do not underestimate the power of 2 guys trying to outplay each other. The team WILL benefit..

Remember the days you and your mate fighting over the same chick? u bring out be(a)st everyday :)
 

brasil_spur

SC Supporter
Aug 25, 2006
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Setting ourselves up to be a typical Mourinho team now. Defence is still a little bit suspect but improving game by game.

Hojbjerg
Ndombele - Lo Celso
Bale -----‐--------------------- Son
Kane​

If those six stay fit, it's as good as any midfield and attack that have won the league in previous seasons. Add Reguilon and Doherty/Aurier bombing up either side and that has unreal potential.

I agree, apart from our CBs we have a first team and bench that would rival any PL winning team in history.

However, i think that is the key difference - it's like the season that Liverpool brought in VVD and it took them from challenging to winning.

Is Skriniar that player? Probably. So i can see why we've been going so hard to get him signed and i'll be a bit gutted if we don't. However i still think we have enough about us to give the PL a real shot and to pick up a piece of silverware this season - which would be a massive success.
 

davidmatzdorf

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Jun 7, 2004
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Was it Bale's return that changed the atmosphere around the club, as a statement of ambition? Or possibly the rise of Ndombele, which showed that Mou's behind the scenes tactics work? The slight change in Kane's role? Dier's blind determination? Lamela's aggro? Sonny's finishing? Hojbjerg? Reguilon? Aurier? Levy's backing of the manager? ...
I think the key factor has been Højbjerg fitting himself into the midfield puzzle, after a few games finding his role. Until the Chelsea game, his positioning and destructive work were OK, but his passing wasn't clicking at all. Since then, he has found his confidence that he can reach teammates with ambitious passes, such as the through ball for Aurier's (I think...?) goal yesterday.

With a defensive midfielder they can trust, the attacking players can interact with more abandon, knowing not only that they have someone backing them up if they lose the ball, but that more often than not they'll get it back if they lose it.

We can extrapolate from this to the whole general misdirection about Mourinho's "negative football". His Chelsea team never played negative football and they scored freely. His successful teams are based on a solid and organised defensive foundation and then he largely leaves his attacking players to improvise in front of that.

If the foundation is tough enough and the attacking players are good enough, then his teams play exciting, positive football. If they aren't, or if there is an injury crisis such as we had last season, they can pull back and play a tight game.

The principle is that the solid defence enables the freewheeling attack.
 

SpursSince1980

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Jan 23, 2011
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I’m not sure why, but I always find myself feeling very defensive when it comes to all of the negativity that gets hurled at Jose. Wasn’t until yesterday I figured out why.... it is a reflexive, subconcoius reaction that comes from how I perceive him physically and characteristically. While watching him do an interview on tv yesterday, I looked at the shelf on which the Tv sits and saw a picture of my father. That was when it occurred to me.... he reminds me of my dad, who passed eight years ago. Both grey foxes. Both same physical build. Both with warm, charismatic smiles. And both tough as nails.

so surprised I hadn’t made that connection before.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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He just needs to keep getting it out of the players. Since lockdown we’ve really been getting good results and now we’ve started playing well too.

I really think the players needed that rest both physically and mentally. He probably did too and used the break to get to know his players better.

Obviously it’s still early days this season and we’ve got Bale to come back in this team but the most important thing is consistency. Hes already said we will go into every game trying to win. That’s a great mindset to get into the players. Let’s hope he can’t get it into them when they return from the international break. Surely Bale’s return debut will spur them on regardless.
 

DJS

A hoonter must hoont
Dec 9, 2006
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I liked the fact he tugged Lamela at half time too as was another example of his good in-game management.

Lamela did well first half but reckon he could have gotten a second yellow way he was going, so was sensible to bring Moura on for him.
 
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