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Player Watch: Gareth Bale - Retires

Frozen_Waffles

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The last world renowned player to come to Tottenham? Yes. Agree. At the time Klinsmann was 30, and he came from a season with Monaco that was anything but impressive for club and palyer. And even though he was arguably their outstanding performer, Germany had expereinced (for them) a very disappointing world cup, being knocked out in the quarterfinales by Bulgaria. Was he or was he note over the top? And he was not by any means a popular signing in the press or outside Tottenham with his reputation as a diver. The Guardian article called "Why I Hate Jürgen Klinsmann" was just one example. He proved all doubters wrong - of course. And there is no denying he was huge international star at the time he signed. But again mainly as a player for the national side and on the international stage - as a clubplayer he had been part of the Inter side that had won the UEFA Cup in 92, and the Italian Super Cup (Charity Shield) in 89. Not many titles for a world champion and a "star". He was also far more prolific goals corer for Germany than for any of his clubs. He was never golden boot winner in neither Italy onor France, and only once in the Bundesliga (1987/88) - the same year of his only occurence in the Bundesliga Team of the Season.

But to say that Jürgen Klinsman is the only world renowned player we have signed ... that shows somewhat a lack of knowledge of our history tbh.

1989:
Gary Lineker, signed from Barcelona as a 28 year old, at the hight of his career. Regining world cup golden boot winner. At the time maybe only Van Basten was a bigger name in world football as a striker.

1981:
One of the most winning English footballers of all time, including 3 European Cups (=that time´s Champions League), Ray Clemence was signed from Liverpool. Admittedly, he was 33, but still one of England two world class goalkeepers of the time. Had it not been for the one year younger Peter Shilton, Clemence would probably have had something like 150 caps for England.

1978:
Ardiles (especially) and Villa were superstars and came straight out of an amazing world cup campaign as winners to sign for Spurs, to a league where players were "foreign" if they were from that green island to the West. Before the signing of these two, Spurs had only had players from England, Scotland and Wales in their 96 year long history - except four (4) Irishmen, a trio (3) of gentlemen from Northern Ireland (including legends Blanchflower & Jennings). And one each from Guernsey and Jersey/Channel Islands. The shock of a signing like this is hard to understand in today´s globalized world - it was totally unpresedented

1970:
Martin Peters, world champion (and should´ve at least have played the final in 70 hadn´t the England manager cocked it up at 2-0 against West Germany and subbed him and Bobby Charlton for them to lose 2-3) came to Spurs in 1970 as a leading midfielder in the world, and broke the british transfer record by a mile with a price of £200.00.

1966:
Mike England - had he been English he would´ve been a world champion. Arguably the best defender to ever play for Spurs, came from Blackburn months before he turned 25 for an amazing £95.000 - unheard of for a defensive player at the time. But, he was by many seen as the finest in the world at this time in this position. He´s still admired at Blacburn, and still the youngest ever to be full time captain of Wales.

1961:
British football´s best ever striker, and one of the most natural goalscorers the game has ever seen, the one and only Jimmy Greaves. He came from Italian power house A C Milan who had bought him only months earlier from Chelsea. Greaves was one of the very first British players to play in Serie A, and was brought to Milano to retain domestic titles and challenge Real Madrid in Europe. He had already scored 124 goals in 157 matches for Chelsea, and was despite his still young age England´s number one choice up front. He had made 3 hattricks for England already before he signed for Spurs.

1958:
Cliff Jones was a huge success at the world cup in 1958, the only time Wales have qualified for the tournament. Beaten by Pele and Brazil 1-0 in the quarterfinals, Jones left Sweden an international star. He was signed for a record fee of £35.000 - at the time the most expensive player any English club had ever bought.

It is of course an almost impossible task to say who was "world renowned" footballers back in time. Especially before the age of television. In present day it´s totally different with a globalized sport, internet and a truly "very small world". And as we all know, star power isn´t always the same as being a great athlete or performer. Anna Kournikova was by far the biggest star in women´s tennis for many years, despite never being ranked higher as number 8, and never winning one single WTA tournament (in singles).

And there is no doubt that Tottenham have a very, very long history of developing stars and world class players. We get them young and/or on the brink of them breaking through as very top talent - and with us they grow to become some of the best there is. Blanchflower, Mackay, Jennings, Chivers, Hoddle, Waddle, Perryman, Gascoigne, Campbell, Sheringham, King, Berbatov, Modric, Bale, Lloris, Kane, Son, etc.

But we have done it - bought the best and biggest stars that money can buy. But not very often. But how many times have English clubs bought a Maradona, Platini or Messi? If ever? Gullit came her when he was old and over the top. Cantona grew to super stardom here. So did most of the other biggest stars in the PL era.

But.

There is maybe one exception to the rule ... :

The arguably biggest bona fide STAR ever to be signed by Tottenham, and maybe any English club ever:

Alex Morgan - just a couple of weeks ago.

Brilliant and informative post!
 

Jgplk1

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As happy as I am that Bale is coming back I’m not sure about all this coming home and I place I want to be business. Can’t remember Bale saying anything about us since he left and he forced his move through by basically going on strike.
Spurs are simply Bale preferred choice out of the options available which is still great to be honest but let’s not pretend it’s anything more than that

He definitely has spoken about us...


This was the first link I found and is pretty recent, but I also remember reading a few times about him and Modric getting together to watch Spurs matches. I also remember a few articles with quotes from him when we hired Mourinho saying how he thinks he's a good manager and will do well with us.
 

The Legend of Tanguy

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Put yourself in his position:

Imagine, for 7 years you’re making 600k per week which is amazing and all you’ve done is quietly gone about your work, won 4 champions leagues, a couple ligas, etc. but you’re in a city where you don’t know the language, you don’t understand most of your teammates, your coach hates you, the team’s fans hate you and you don’t feel cared for or appreciated at all and you’re just unhappy with it all.

That’s got to be such a mentally taxing grind. There’s no way those conditions make you play your best and feel motivated every single day.

Coming home to spurs is going to be such a big boost for him mentally and physically. Every fan loves and appreciates him for all he is and has done, he can understand most of his teammates and coaches and walk around town and just be comfortable and understand what people are saying. It’s such a breath of fresh air for him, he’s going to feel so free.

As a Spurs fan, I’m absolutely elated. For him, I’m happy that he’s going to be in a better place as a person. I think we’re going to see a HIGHLY motivated refreshed Gareth Bale and it is going to be GLORIOUS.
 
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DaSpurs

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Put yourself in his position:

Imagine, for 7 years you’re making 600k per week which is amazing and all you’ve done is quietly gone about your work, won 4 champions leagues, a couple ligas, etc. but you’re in a city where you don’t know the language, you don’t understand most of your teammates, your coach hates you, the team’s fans hate you and you don’t feel cared for or appreciated at all and you’re just unhappy with it all.

That’s got to be such a mentally taxing grind. There’s no way those conditions make you play your best and feel motivated every single day.

Coming home to spurs is going to be such a big boost for him mentally and physically. Every fan loves and appreciates him for all he is and has done, he can understand most of his teammates and coaches and walk around town and just be comfortable and understand what people are saying.

As a Spurs fan, I’m elated. For him, I’m excited that he’s going to be in a better place as a person. I think we’re going to see a HIGHLY motivated refreshed Gareth Bale and it is going to be GLORIOUS.

Agree with all of this, but I hope the fans are patient with him. It's going to take him a few weeks to get back to fitness, let alone match quality confidence. Not sure yet if it's a good thing the fans aren't in the stadiums atm, because I don't know how that would affect the pressure on him.

If anyone here has been broken up with a SO for some time, and then makeup months or even years later to try again, you know that some differences are perceivable and need to be worked out. I just hope he finds comfort, works through it all quickly, and gets back to the best we all know he's capable of.
 

rebrab

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Those saying he’s “past his best” - I know this is massively influenced by exceptional talents, but I believe the last four winners were all older than Bale at the last time they won it - Messi (32), Modric (33), Ronaldo (33), Cannavaro (35).

Can’t wait for tomorrow
 

amathews3416

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I don't know about the rest, but I was just having a hard time getting excited for this season based off last year's struggles and that first loss against Everton. I am now excited about Spurs again.
 

JKendall13

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Those saying he’s “past his best” - I know this is massively influenced by exceptional talents, but I believe the last four winners were all older than Bale at the last time they won it - Messi (32), Modric (33), Ronaldo (33), Cannavaro (35).

Can’t wait for tomorrow

Interesting amount of crossover on those saying Bale past his best while praising the Aubameyang resigning, even though Arsenal are paying him 100k/week more than we’re reportedly paying Bale and he’s older.
 

Antilokhos

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This is all very exciting and seems too good to be true, are we 100% sure Levy isn't bringing back Kenny McEvoy and hoping nobody notices?
 

peterballb

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Patience will be key. Not just for Bale and Reguilon. We all need to keep in mind that since we lost the CL final we have changed managers. We have added Ndombele, Lo Celso, Sessegnon, Clarke, Fernandes, Bergwijn, Hart, Doherty and Hojberg (also Etete, Solberg and Devine).

Assuming the two RM deals go through along with a striker and perhaps another player, we will have added up to 13 players who will be in contention in just over a season for a new manager, who needs to mold with the players who remain from that CL final team. That is a lot of turnover. It is going to take time for everything to gel. Hopefully, we can use the busy schedule to get everyone in shape and more fluid.

Today's passing often looked like we are in a pre-season state. Timing and touch just a little bit off.

Give the gaffer and the lads the time they need to come together. There is an awful lot of quality in this squad and more coming tomorrow and thereafter.
 

thfcsteff

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Bale was one of my Dad's favourite players, we were both sitting in the north stand for his final goal against Sunderland. He passed away in 2018.

Really wish he was still around to see him coming back. But hopefully, he's watching from somewhere! #COYS

Mate,
You enjoy every single second of his return and know that his energy is with you.
 

Erm33

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Bale was one of my Dad's favourite players, we were both sitting in the north stand for his final goal against Sunderland. He passed away in 2018.

Really wish he was still around to see him coming back. But hopefully, he's watching from somewhere! #COYS

Clearly your dad had a word to someone up there to make this to happen ???
 

The Legend of Tanguy

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Bale was one of my Dad's favourite players, we were both sitting in the north stand for his final goal against Sunderland. He passed away in 2018.

Really wish he was still around to see him coming back. But hopefully, he's watching from somewhere! #COYS

What a wonderful memory. He definitely is watching down. Every time Bale bangs one in you’ll think of your Dad, which makes it more special. My Dad passed in 2018 when I was 23. I have sports moments all the time like that where I’m reminded of a precious moment with him - cherish those when they come mate, helps the memories continue to live on.
 
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torbaytottenham

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Just over 7 years ago, i drove to Swindon to watch Spurs play in a preseason friendly, the sole purpose of that was to watch Gareth play in what I knew would be his last game in a Spurs shirt, turns out I was wrong, not his last game at all, he is coming home and I couldnt be more elated. Just the signing we needed, it landed in Daniels lap but kudos to him for sealing this deal. ?
 

Matthew

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P.S. Isn't it nice when other fans are nice. (You should follow this guy if you don't - really good Tweeter person).



Saw this the other day, was retweeted on my page - so I followed him, one of the guys from sky, that solvakeh?? Guy accused him of being racist ?
 
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