The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 7th September

yankspurs · Sep 8, 2020

dondo said:
And in the same day no less ?

Hour^

Matthew · Sep 8, 2020

WorthATry said:
Dragon:

As the press are now reporting villa are outbidding us on Watkins , we are still talking to brentford but I don’t see us paying 30 million for back up

king was the deal was around 12 million for back up

ings was 45 , burnley wanted a lot for woods and the other player I’ve been mentioning is 40 , we have not bought a decent striker since Berbs , soldado and Jansen were disasters
the problem is strikers cost a lot of money and we dont seem to have a willing board , we are being out spent by Newcastle and villa and Everton have spent 75 million this week

levys official line is you know there is Covid and no crowds , I honestly think in Enic 20th season even our most reasonable supporters Patience is going to wear thin

aaaaaaand meltdown.

SpartanSpur · Sep 8, 2020

Trix said:
A lot of these players we are being linked with as targets are just if's and maybe's. Just names on a list of possibilities. It's the same every window. We make enquired about a lot of players just to see the lie of the land should things not progress with our more favorable options. All of a sudden it turns into "being out bid by team x,y and z) when the truth is all we've done is ask to be kept in the loop just in case.

Honestly I'm more confident we will get what we need this window, more than any other in the last 10 years.

Thanks for this timely info Trix. Certainly put my mind at ease somewhat.

Concerns are building though as striker targets (IMO Wilson and Watkins would have been good ones) are starting to thin out. Hopefully we have some good players in our 'favoured' lists because at the moment this window seems to more likely be heading towards a mad dash for Troy Deeney on deadline day!

sausage · Sep 8, 2020

13VanDerBale13 said:
As was shown in January this is a dangerous game to play, where we could end up being left empty handed.

Not necessarily - we signed an excellent young talent for a good price instead. Turns out if we'd signed a forward he probably wouldn't have got a look in anyway :ROFLMAO:

(Son -> COVID -> Kane back).

Narrative still seems to fit here - we're not going for 'bums on seats', more waiting for the right player whilst keeping open minded.

Trix · Sep 8, 2020

Hawkey77 said:
I suspect what most fans are reacting to here is the suggestion that having more than one striker in ahead of the season starting must be a quick fix. It’s been YEARS that we should have been planning this signing, not just now we’re a few days away from the season starting. It is remarkable, inexcusable and negligent. I can’t believe there is any context that makes this an acceptable scenario.

Problem is when you're not willing to pay over the odds(and we are not), you often have to wait until the selling team has geared up it's replacements before they will let the player go.

Goobers · Sep 8, 2020

Thanks for the information all.

Inq · Sep 8, 2020

Trix said:
Problem is when you're not willing to pay over the odds(and we are not), you often have to wait until the selling team has geared up it's replacements before they will let the player go.

Definitely fair but you’d think the club would want to protect the well being of one of our prized assets in Kane. He’s worked into the ground season after season and clearly vocalized his discontent with the busy schedule in All or Nothing. Just seems one of the glaring gaps within the current squad. Something that we should have targeted first and moved for early in the window.

thanks for the all the info though @Trix you lot don’t get the credit you deserve all the time. much appreciated

SSC · Sep 8, 2020

Trix said:
Problem is when you're not willing to pay over the odds(and we are not), you often have to wait until the selling team has geared up it's replacements before they will let the player go.

Not going to start guessing but suggests to me look at the clubs buying a striker with viable targets of ours they may be buying a replacement for. Similar to when we bought the 7 Beatles before we confirmed the sale of Bale.

HNIM · Sep 8, 2020

Trix said:
Problem is when you're not willing to pay over the odds(and we are not), you often have to wait until the selling team has geared up it's replacements before they will let the player go.

Under normal circumstances, I'd say fine, but by the time we get to that point, we could (a) be out of Europe and the League Cup due to lack of depth at that position, and/or (b) looking at Harry with a crocked ankle or blown hammy due to overuse... again.

It's completely down to the ridiculous fixture list. Why the **** couldn't Chelsea have beaten Arsenal?

DanNolan · Sep 8, 2020

I’m not trying to start discussing Our team options debate here As it’s the wrong thread.. but based on trix comment about a quick fix... I think people need to remember we signed Berwyn in January too. The main issue with seeing Son as a striker before is it then left us weak on the right. Son has played CF every friendly and scored 4 in 4.... if as Trix suggests we’re willing to wait 4 weeks for the right deal it’ll be because they can see that a front 3 Out of Lucas Son Bergwyn Lamela Ali isn’t a weak forward line And we haven’t got 1 striker as people remark we have Son too.

13VanDerBale13 · Sep 8, 2020

Lot of expectation then waiting for the right deal/player, because say if it does turn out to be a Troy Deeney, then it defies the whole logic of waiting, even more so if it impacts on our cup results / injuries to our forwards due to early season burnout.

Stoof · Sep 8, 2020

Hawkey77 said:
I suspect what most fans are reacting to here is the suggestion that having more than one striker in ahead of the season starting must be a quick fix. It’s been YEARS that we should have been planning this signing, not just now we’re a few days away from the season starting. It is remarkable, inexcusable and negligent. I can’t believe there is any context that makes this an acceptable scenario.

A change in manager half-way through last season is a pretty good reason why this hasn’t been YEARS of planning. I appreciate the sentiment here, but the players being looked at are different from the ones we were looking at last summer. So whilst we have been looking for a striker since the Janssen debacle (remember the last time we went big on a striker that our manager said “ticked all the boxes”) I think the goalposts have moved since then

ikky · Sep 8, 2020

Be patient, we have so much of the window remaining. I’ve heard this one before :cautious:

FibreOpticJesus · Sep 8, 2020

DiVaio said:
Completely different window and strikers linked then and now are completely different quality too.

And those were initially on our early radar have gone to other clubs. You can see why the fan base are on the rinse and repeat cycle.

brendanb50 · Sep 8, 2020

Trix said:
Problem is when you're not willing to pay over the odds(and we are not), you often have to wait until the selling team has geared up it's replacements before they will let the player go.

Thanks for the posts Trix. I think it's pretty clear - We've sized up a few options, have asked about prices/availability but our values (with a certain margin) are likely set to a degree, barring any players leaving.

So if someone comes in willing to pay top dollar, for players who would help our squad but don't necessarily represent a 'no-brainer', then that's us out of the race.

I get the frustration but we're not a club that generally spends for the sake of it - sometimes to our detriment but that's because it's the easiest way to waste huge club funds and we have been burnt in the past.

Strikers are expensive, there aren't many who want to play behind Kane and the right deals are hard to bring over the line.

Here's hoping the options left on the list are still viable/decent.

yido_number1 · Sep 8, 2020

Trix said:
Problem is when you're not willing to pay over the odds(and we are not), you often have to wait until the selling team has geared up it's replacements before they will let the player go.

Not a dig at you for passing on Trix that is much appreciated, but the frustration comes when we're most of the way through the third window of opportunity and we still haven't signed a striker. Towards the end of every window we hear things like "player identified for the summer etc" It's about time our transfer strategy was set well in advance and we tried to execute before the windows start. Getting into days before the start of a new season and a ridiculous run of fixtures and we don't have all the bodies we need. Watching All or nothing is foretelling what might potentially be coming.

Stamford · Sep 8, 2020

Trix said:
Would rather wait and get the best possible option, than be lumbered with some quick fix, premier league journeyman because it can be done in the next ten minutes.

We all would but the longer we wait we increase the likelihood of a journeyman and over paying for the privilege while also having Kane playing in the depths of Eastern Europe.

Wig · Sep 8, 2020

Trix said:
Problem is when you're not willing to pay over the odds(and we are not), you often have to wait until the selling team has geared up it's replacements before they will let the player go.

I'd imagine also have to wait until other interested buying teams have finished their purchasing business with other options, so the coast is clear to avoid a bidding war.

Hercules · Sep 8, 2020

Trix said:
Any reason you disliked my post @Hercules ?

Fat F’ng fingers Trix ?

George94 · Sep 8, 2020

Hercules said:
When I’m scrolling phone my fanny TICKLING FAT FINGERS accidentally touches ratings my love Trix ??

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