Player Watch: Pierre-Emile Højbjerg

Who’s our next manager? · Jul 6, 2020

Hojberjg would not be my first choice,prefer an out and out destroyer. Hi is better than Winks and Sissoko as he is far more aggressive. He is far more inspirational, will give a rollicking when needed.

bbunc · Jul 7, 2020

DiVaio said:
Yeah, his stats are very good. Never watched him though, but @HB_HeadCoach(recommend his account a lot, analyst and trained with Bergwijn), maybe just Hojbjerg is better fit for us? And did we actually were linked with Sangare before?
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How about we move Sissoko on and sign them both. Sangare is more skilled than Sissoko with similar athleticism and 8 years younger. Højbjerg the calmer presence (?)

would give us depth at DM and Sangare could probably play some 8 as well.

Joshua · Jul 7, 2020

I appreciate the analysis made by a couple of the posters in here in regards to statistics. But I think what stats don’t capture is the character and personal profile of a player. When you look at what we lack in midfield it’s presence, calmness and tactical intelligence. Is PEH going to be a dynamic destroyer that roams around the pitch putting up crazy Kante-esque numbers. Probably not. But when you consider he’s the youngest (until his recent stripping) premier league captain this season and learnt his trade with Bayern Munich Id say he would offer us the much needed presence and character in midfield.

I also really don’t think we need a superstar game changer in midfield. We have them already in Lo Celso and when they’re up for it, Dele and Ndombele. We just need a player to do the grunt work to help get the best out of them. PEH pops up in good positions, recovers the ball, and then moves his team forward. We literally don’t have a single player in the squad that does that consistently. Do believe he’d be a very astute signing.

dtxspurs · Jul 7, 2020

Montalbano said:
If we can manage to craft a straight swap deal for KWP and him I can see how this is viewed as a sensible move by the club. And if we plan to bring in a RB, it’s probably worth the punt. But he’s not any better than Winks. He’s also not a no. 6!!!

There are no compilations up on YouTube for Winks’ season, but I guarantee you if they clipped Winks best moments together he’d look as impressive or better than Hojbjerg. Same goes for Winks stats if he played for Southampton

Just last year Hojbjerg had 4 goals and 4 assists in the prem.. Which is twice as many as Winks has in 138 appearances for us.

spursfan77 · Jul 7, 2020

THFCSPURS19 said:
I remember many of the more critical comments about Hojbjerg being made about Wanyama when we signed him, I hope that this goes the same way if we sign him (apart from the bit where Wanyama's legs stopped working).

Wanyama was class though both at Celtic and then at Southampton (except for his last season there). They loved him at both clubs. He was definitely a level above Holbjerg. I was surprised then though at people not wanting him despite him ticking a lot of boxes.

Hoopspur · Jul 7, 2020

Granted stats tell a lot of the story but not the whole one. I still feel it's vital we have a central midfielder with leadership qualities. I'm no expert but this is something that Henderson (like him or not) has got. Do any of the stats charts indicate these type of qualities?

Hoopspur · Jul 7, 2020

TheAmerican said:
Yeah he's an interesting one to look at as he's been pressed to fill a role in a southampton side that will likely be different than what we ask of him. I have confidence in his ability to adapt and become what we need due to his leadership characteristics and his early scouting reports at bayern. His flexibility, in ways, has probably been detrimental to his development, thus far. I think it's quite similar to Dier, as Dier has filled in at RB and DM for us when he absolutely is best at CB. I think he has the capability to excel as a DM if given a that role, definitively.

Sorry, in essence snap to the post above.

JME-9 · Jul 7, 2020

Højbjerg is a priority signing he will thrive under Jose and has that bite and aggression he badly need in cm! Him along with 2 full backs and we massively improve that’s the minimum we need! Also need a cam back up striker and potentially a cb though it’s debatable

Timberwolf · Jul 7, 2020

Tbh after a year of Winks and Sissoko at CDM, even if Hojbjerg is distinctly average, he'll probably look amazing to us.

After being lost in the desert even a warm can of Special Brew tastes like nectar from the gods.

punkisback · Jul 7, 2020

JayB said:
Sangare has been discussed here on SC for the past year or more which is why he was on my radar. Whether or not we've been credibly linked with him I'm not sure. At least with Sangare we'd be getting a younger player with significant scope to improve. If his biggest weakness is that he takes too many risks with the ball, you'd think that would be something that can be coached out of him. Hojbjerg is much more experienced and nearly three years older, so seems less likely to continue developing.

I honestly don't think we're linked with Hojbjerg because the scouting setup has identified him as the best player for our needs, but rather because he's a player whose contract is down to a year remaining at a club where we can ship an unwanted academy player in part exchange. It'd be a purely opportunistic signing of a player who I don't think is good enough. We desperately need a DM so I'm not opposed to it, I'm just thoroughly underwhelmed.

It is very much an opportunistic signing but I do think he will be an improvement to what we have there at present which is nothing.

Cornpattbuck · Jul 7, 2020

Timberwolf said:
Tbh after a year of Winks and Sissoko at CDM, even if Hojbjerg is distinctly average, he'll probably look amazing to us.

After being lost in the desert even a warm can of Special Brew tastes like nectar from the gods.

I'm really sad Winks is being seen like this. He was a quality youngster and then had the whole midfield dropped on his shoulders with little team structure around him for the last year and a half. I still think he's done an admirable job in the circumstances.

rawhide · Jul 7, 2020

Cornpattbuck said:
I'm really sad Winks is being seen like this. He was a quality youngster and then had the whole midfield dropped on his shoulders with little team structure around him for the last year and a half. I still think he's done an admirable job in the circumstances.

Problem is that we’ve basically been a bit of a shambles for the last year and a half. Player progress has stalled, older players’ performances are dropping off a lot and recruiting has lacked an overarching plan. It’s a shame, as it’s affected most of the players’ performance.

TEESSIDE1 · Jul 7, 2020

rawhide said:
Problem is that we’ve basically been a bit of a shambles for the last year and a half. Player progress has stalled, older players’ performances are dropping off a lot and recruiting has lacked an overarching plan. It’s a shame, as it’s affected most of the players’ performance.

On paper and you can apply this to Everton as well, we both look scary as hell in attack and have quality players elsewhere in the team. The problem both teams suffer from is mentality and an unbalanced team/system.

Spurs:

LB - redundant, other than defending deep Davies offers nothing
RB - spends 90% of the game high up the pitch. Aurier however lacks brains, movement and an end product
DM - we don’t have one
CM - Lo Celso is brilliant but the gulf in class between him and everyone else is enormous
ACM - Lo Celso can play this role but he’s having the do the work of 3 players. We desperately need another ACM or a quality allrounder like Gio
AM/F - Alli’s form has fell off a cliff and Lamela despite his work rate offers nothing in terms of an end product
WF - scary on paper but our pedestrian play leaves them unable to utilise their frightening pace and skill
S - we’ve only got one and despite being world class he’s both injury prone and a shadow of the player he was 2-3 seasons ago

There’s lots of issues with our team but signing two competent full backs and two competent central midfielders will make a hell of a difference to the quality of our performances.

$hoguN · Jul 7, 2020

He is a leader and a water carrier for the more talented players. Would be a great addition. His time to adapt should also be limited given his already doing the business in the PL

Timberwolf · Jul 7, 2020

Cornpattbuck said:
I'm really sad Winks is being seen like this. He was a quality youngster and then had the whole midfield dropped on his shoulders with little team structure around him for the last year and a half. I still think he's done an admirable job in the circumstances.

Ok sorry. Sissoko can be Special Brew.

Winks is more like Bucks Fizz. If you squint it looks quite classy and is enjoyable in the right circumstances, but lacks strength and you'd usually prefer something else.

Cornpattbuck · Jul 8, 2020

Timberwolf said:
Ok sorry. Sissoko can be Special Brew.

Winks is more like Bucks Fizz. If you squint it looks quite classy and is enjoyable in the right circumstances, but lacks strength and you'd usually prefer something else.

Well if you want to be a **** about it. Cool.

Timberwolf · Jul 8, 2020

Cornpattbuck said:
Well if you want to be a **** about it. Cool.

Just having a laugh mate.

I like Winks but there's no denying he's not a great defensive midfielder. I'm fine with him playing alongside someone else if the game suits him or as part of a 3, just don't think we'll get anywhere with him or Sissoko as our deepest midfielder.

sausage · Jul 8, 2020

Cornpattbuck said:
I'm really sad Winks is being seen like this. He was a quality youngster and then had the whole midfield dropped on his shoulders with little team structure around him for the last year and a half. I still think he's done an admirable job in the circumstances.

I'm eternally disappointed and confused by Winks. I just don't get how you can make it to that level and have absolutely no shooting ability. Same with Scotty P. How on earth can you have control over the ball and make it that far and not think "best put in the hours on that thing".

I get it with Sissoko, because he looks really awkward with the ball, and is obviously more of an athlete, but the same can't be said of your Winks/Parker types.

The SCBC fans must hate us for pecking at their squad all the time. I'm surprised Liverpool aren't linked, mind!

Cornpattbuck · Jul 8, 2020

Timberwolf said:
Just having a laugh mate. I like Winks but there's no denying he's not a great defensive midfielder. I'm fine with him playing alongside someone else if the game suits him or as part of a 3, just don't think we'll get anywhere with him or Sissoko as our deepest midfielder.

Fair play. I just think he was thrown under a truck by Poch (with Mourinho admittedly randomly persisting with it occasionally) in a formation that didn't suit him. I think my football sense of humour died in the last year and a half. :ROFLMAO:

Timberwolf · Jul 8, 2020

Cornpattbuck said:
Fair play. I just think he was thrown under a truck by Poch (with Mourinho admittedly randomly persisting with it occasionally) in a formation that didn't suit him. I think my football sense of humour died in the last year and a half.

I think it's very useful to have a player like him in the squad as he can slow the play down, pass under pressure and retain the ball. We don't have any other midfielders who have that same metronomic ability as Winks and he's great if you want to play keep-ball or hold onto a lead.

The problem is, when you put him in a 2 alongside another risk averse player like Sissoko, we don't have anyone to link the midfield and attack, and if you play him deeper he lacks the steel and defensive nous to properly cover the back 4.

Like you said, in the right system or squad he'd make more sense, but given our deficiencies and more reactive style of play his skillset just doesn't really suit us a lot of the time.

I think he should be a rotational squad player atm, and that seems to be how Jose is starting to use him.

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