Harry Kane

Deleted member 27995 · Jul 5, 2020

Like people wanting ENIC to sell up - they need to find someone with the bank balance to do so.

Kane may want to leave etc etc - better find a club with enough dosh to pay for him then.

I'm happy to be pragmatic with all of this, if that's the case then the only club in England with that kind of dosh is City. It's abroad or he's here another year at least.

tiger666 · Jul 5, 2020

BringBack_leGin said:
Jesus the self pity in this thread is pathetic.

Welcome to the internet. Pull up a chair and let me introduce you to Twitter.

Martinhotspur · Jul 5, 2020

emiley heskey said:
I know they wont sell greenwood, i just wished Pochetinno had used parott and marcus edwards more in his last season, we could have had two exciting homegrown prospects at our hands now. Pochetinno only made kane and winks regular in our team as a homegrown prospect in his time here ... Or I think our academy is completely shit and can't develop players like man utd, chelsea, city, liverpool or even norwich, palace ...

The problem is Chelsea, Man Utd, Man City and Liverpool hoover up all young talent from all over the UK and beyond. Its not that Spurs can't develop players.

bubble07 · Jul 5, 2020

Although irrelevant did Kane score 4, 3 ruled out?

bubble07 · Jul 5, 2020

hughy said:
Has he scored one since that deflected effort against Villa like 46 years ago?

Genuinely not sure how someone can be so pinpoint accurate from 12 yards, but miscue every dead ball he hits from 25. His free-kicks hurt my eyes, and the worst thing is you know the result as soon as he eyes it up.

He got declected one v everton i think

emiley heskey · Jul 5, 2020

Martinhotspur said:
The problem is Chelsea, Man Utd, Man City and Liverpool hoover up all young talent from all over the UK and beyond. Its not that Spurs can't develop players.

Spurs cant hoover up youth, spurs cant buy players who are at their prime ... Thn which model spurs should follow?

buckley · Jul 5, 2020

Having just watched Liverpool v Villa. with the sound off because I cannot enjoy a game with sycophants Tyler and Carrager commentating
I cast my mind back to when Liverpool supporters in particular were calling out Kane for diving .
An incident in the penalty area happened when More Salad outrageously threw himself to the ground in an attempt to win a penalty .
I had the sound was off so I was thinking " I bet there was no mention of the Salad diving and I can just hear the two sycophantic commentators in my mind saying " I dont think that was a penalty " or " there was nothing in that incident " with no mention of the attempt to cheat and I would like to ask anybody who had the sound on to tell me if they heard what these two muppets had to say because one thing I am sure of if that was Harry he would be torn to pieces with criticism of diving not that Harry would behave in such a way .

riggi · Jul 5, 2020

yankspurs said:
He should leave for his own good. This club is going nowhere with ENIC.

mpickard2087 · Jul 5, 2020

mpickard2087 said:
That's not really the point though, goals can be just a stat. We've seen plenty of times now in the last 12-18 months that Kane can go through a game with the minimum of involvement and yet still pop up with a goal and keep his tally going, but these games, against at times pretty lowly opposition, are not being won.

He never runs the channels anymore, he's got an annoying habit since that game where he embarrassed Lovren of too often trying to roll defenders constantly rather than getting it front and shielding and so holding the ball up and relieving pressure or bringing others into the game, he disappears out of more and more games now, and his pressing work is really poor now bar the occasional lung busting efforts chasing back that get the crowds appreciation and linger in the memory and mask the reality.

Loads are pointing to the fact that Harry should have had two goals, and feel sorry for him being stuck in this team and that he can do no more.... But compare him to McBurnie tonight. There is a big lump too who isn't the most gifted athletically, but he constantly put himself about, put his heart into every challenge, chased everything and hassled constantly, was always on the move and looking to find space or take up positions or make a run to open space for someone else, and generally trying to drag their team to victory. In the meat and drink of the game only one who stood up to be counted, put his heart and soul into it, and got his rewards. Shame it wasn't Harry....

I've said before on here, maybe it was inevitable with age but I much much preferred the Kane of 2014-16 who hurtled around the pitch running through brick walls for the team and seemingly determined to cover every blade of grass for the cause, than the one of 2017-present who has economised his movement and focused on maximising his goal output. But that's just me.

This is not a post advocating selling Kane, he's a prodigiously talented footballer and goal scorer I want us to keep and see flourish. It is also not all on him and as a squad there needs huge improvement and for people to step up. But he's a senior player and captain and plays a crucial role as a focal point No.9, and to me part of the problem and part of the reason why standards have slipped in the last few years and I don't like the 'poor Harry' posts as if he's nothing to do with it.

Adding to this after tonight's match, look at the Southampton strikers especially Ings - scrapping and running for everything, doing the channels, pressing and closing down consistently, competing for stuff they barely have a right to win, working back to their own penalty area and throwing themselves in front of the ball. Just an all round work rate over 90 mins that is infinitely better than current version of Kane.

If he was doing all this, giving his all, and getting let down by his team then I'd have sympathy for him and agree with the comments by many that he didn't deserve to endure it and they couldn't blame him if he wanted to leave. But he isn't, so I dont.

Hazelton · Jul 5, 2020

People don't want to hear this but I think deep down we all know that a proper rebuild only happens without Harry. We won't invest enough without getting £100m+ first and he's our only really valuable, coveted asset. Levy has a massive decision to make soon.

Gilzeanking · Jul 6, 2020

mpickard2087 said:
Adding to this after tonight's match, look at the Southampton strikers especially Ings - scrapping and running for everything, doing the channels, pressing and closing down consistently, competing for stuff they barely have a right to win, working back to their own penalty area and throwing themselves in front of the ball. Just an all round work rate over 90 mins that is infinitely better than current version of Kane.

If he was doing all this, giving his all, and getting let down by his team then I'd have sympathy for him and agree with the comments by many that he didn't deserve to endure it and they couldn't blame him if he wanted to leave. But he isn't, so I dont.

Great post , Harry's wonderful career with us till '18 simply blocks many people's ability to accept the evidence of their eyes, plus his untouchable status means he is beyond criticism from managers too. He's bigger than the club .Any time this happens anywhere it is detrimental to that club's performance .
That we don't have a battling understudy to Kane adds to this major team issue .Roughing up comfortable oppo CBs is simply not an option for us atm .

Add to this Sonny's feeble attitude to hassling for the ball and we have a very gentle forward line to deal with .Defending from the front ? not really . To oldies this soft mentality is very familiar .

danielneeds · Jul 6, 2020

mpickard2087 said:
Adding to this after tonight's match, look at the Southampton strikers especially Ings - scrapping and running for everything, doing the channels, pressing and closing down consistently, competing for stuff they barely have a right to win, working back to their own penalty area and throwing themselves in front of the ball. Just an all round work rate over 90 mins that is infinitely better than current version of Kane.

If he was doing all this, giving his all, and getting let down by his team then I'd have sympathy for him and agree with the comments by many that he didn't deserve to endure it and they couldn't blame him if he wanted to leave. But he isn't, so I dont.

Did he stop pressing because he wasn't arsed anymore, or because the toll on his body when his work-load was so high was too much and had to start managing himself through seasons? We'll never really know. Add that together with the rest of the team not pressing it's chicken and egg. Which came first?

emiley heskey · Jul 6, 2020

danielneeds said:
Did he stop pressing because he wasn't arsed anymore, or because the toll on his body when his work-load was so high was too much and had to start managing himself through seasons? We'll never really know. Add that together with the rest of the team not pressing it's chicken and egg. Which came first?

Danny ings has injured himself more time than kane ..

buckley · Jul 6, 2020

Pressing has to be as a unit and three or four players must do the pressing I know we expect a lot from Harry but to blame him for not pressing on his own is just unfair . If the other front players were pressing and he was not then thats fair enough .
But our whole front unit seem not to be using the press any more and have not done so for a long time coinciding with our poor form .
I say bring back the press but not individually but as a unit .

Mr Pink · Jul 6, 2020

mpickard2087 said:
Adding to this after tonight's match, look at the Southampton strikers especially Ings - scrapping and running for everything, doing the channels, pressing and closing down consistently, competing for stuff they barely have a right to win, working back to their own penalty area and throwing themselves in front of the ball. Just an all round work rate over 90 mins that is infinitely better than current version of Kane.

If he was doing all this, giving his all, and getting let down by his team then I'd have sympathy for him and agree with the comments by many that he didn't deserve to endure it and they couldn't blame him if he wanted to leave. But he isn't, so I dont.

Was massively impressed by Ings last night, his work rate was phenomenal.

Also, to come back from two very serious injuries like the way he has speaks volumes about his character.

I think we don't take these things into consideration enough with our recruitment.

We need more character permeating through our side, just too many coast too often.

Nicki78 · Jul 6, 2020

Hazelton said:
People don't want to hear this but I think deep down we all know that a proper rebuild only happens without Harry. We won't invest enough without getting £100m+ first and he's our only really valuable, coveted asset. Levy has a massive decision to make soon.

Agree - its him or Son - wouldn't be surprised to see one of them heading out this summer or next.

NEVILLEB · Jul 6, 2020

Can’t see him staying this summer unless we get a new owner.

Dazzazzad · Jul 7, 2020

danielneeds said:
Did he stop pressing because he wasn't arsed anymore, or because the toll on his body when his work-load was so high was too much and had to start managing himself through seasons? We'll never really know. Add that together with the rest of the team not pressing it's chicken and egg. Which came first?

Here's a question for someone with time on their hands:

How many times has Harry been subbed off since becoming a staple of the first team? Obviously not including injuries.

nailsy · Jul 7, 2020

Hazelton said:
People don't want to hear this but I think deep down we all know that a proper rebuild only happens without Harry. We won't invest enough without getting £100m+ first and he's our only really valuable, coveted asset. Levy has a massive decision to make soon.

People don't want to hear it but we won't get a rebuild. We'll probably add two or three players a season and evolve the team over time.

BringBack_leGin · Jul 7, 2020

nailsy said:
People don't want to hear it but we won't get a rebuild. We'll probably add two or three players a season and evolve the team over time.

So, a rebuild...

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