Player Watch - Tanguy Ndombele

kaz Hirai · Jun 25, 2020

Tottenhamboy85 said:

He looks sharp, and quick in that little clip. Sess is no slouch

JCRD · Jun 26, 2020

kaz Hirai said:
He looks sharp, and quick in that little clip. Sess is no slouch

He is so fuckin skillfull

punkisback · Jun 26, 2020

JUSTINSIGNAL said:
commonly known as racial profiling

Exactly. Thanks for being brave and pointing it out bro. Respect for that. Sick of people doing this to Black players. Pisses me off no end.

AllReb · Jun 26, 2020

Hoddle&Waddle said:
He could do the job Sissoko does, I mean that's his most likely way in imo.

But is he as strong, fit or athletic like Sissoko?

Granted he’s skilful but is that enough if he can’t last more than 30 mins?

DanielJohnCosta · Jun 26, 2020

Hoddle&Waddle said:
He could do the job Sissoko does, I mean that's his most likely way in imo.

I don’t think he could be any more different to Sissoko as a footballer if you tried ?

mugpunt · Jun 26, 2020

Johnny J said:
Please explain what a "ghetto" attitude is. I'll wait.

Heavy Jewelry, rings necklaces, brand clothing, facial hair splashed to the max. Like in gansta rap culture. Put another way the sort of stuff that would be plainly out of place in a corporate environment... are we so pc that my comment is ‘racist’ or inappropriate now!? Actually spare me the answer I don’t care to invest the time debating a point which is beyond obvious to me.

To me it seems an entirely legitimate observation that he takes a certain ‘street’ mentality if you prefer that language which sad the same thing perhaps without being accused of racial undertones. Or he’ll the kid who’s ‘too cool for school attitude in training last in the pack’ if I have to go all nicely Ali Gold to make the same point!

For gds sake grow up people, black lives mattering doesn’t mean that a particular cultural behavior now is ‘equally acceptable’ in the professional work place. Again Mourinho wants to work with soldiers (as did Ferguson) married simple haircuts no frillsno standing out from the team and so do I.

To bolster the point Ive read a poster in the last 24 hrs who I consider a reliable ITK say that he turned up to the training ground with two friends, all with trousers below their butts and Mourinho went mad andbanned them from the training ground and sent him to train alone when he refused to warm down properly. Could it all be smoke...perhaps but it fits the personality I perceive- And yes Mourinho has form for falling out, is a snide narcissistic bully who lacks empathy- but right now it’s all good with me that he’s our manager until/if he fails and that style of sociopathy is the best chance we have to over perform to the point where we may realistically be able to win things.

mugpunt · Jun 26, 2020

Snarfalicious said:
I like to carry myself with general dignity and really don’t like to be overly rude, ridicule posts, etc. I’ve posted over the years and try to keep it light.

But, your shitty post is fucking abhorrent.

Go on...I’ll bite, why is it abhorrent!? It seems to me a statement of the plain and obvious- If your whole objection is the word ghetto (which I hesitated to use admittedly) please spare me the time of your response but if you have a constructive criticism beyond that I’ll engage

Montalbano · Jun 26, 2020

mugpunt said:
To bolster the point Ive read a poster in the last 24 hrs who I consider a reliable ITK say that he turned up to the training ground with two friends, all with trousers below their butts and Mourinho went mad andbanned them from the training ground and sent him to train alone when he refused to warm down properly.

Where??

mugpunt · Jun 26, 2020

Montalbano said:
Where??

Sorry don’t recall, but I’m someone else will reference the source soon enough

Archibald&Crooks · Jun 26, 2020

mugpunt said:
Sorry don’t recall, but I’m someone else will reference the source soon enough

Out of interest, who is the ITK?

mugpunt · Jun 26, 2020

Archibald&Crooks said:
Out of interest, who is the ITK?

I don’t recall the source except that I read it in the last 24 hours on either here ftl or tfk and I recalled the poster as someone who’s posted accurate inside information - It will survey be referenced by someone else with a better memory than mine.

double0 · Jun 26, 2020

mugpunt said:
Heavy Jewelry, rings necklaces, brand clothing, facial hair splashed to the max. Like in gansta rap culture. Put another way the sort of stuff that would be plainly out of place in a corporate environment... are we so pc that my comment is ‘racist’ or inappropriate now!? Actually spare me the answer I don’t care to invest the time debating a point which is beyond obvious to me.

To me it seems an entirely legitimate observation that he takes a certain ‘street’ mentality if you prefer that language which sad the same thing perhaps without being accused of racial undertones. Or he’ll the kid who’s ‘too cool for school attitude in training last in the pack’ if I have to go all nicely Ali Gold to make the same point!

For gds sake grow up people, black lives mattering doesn’t mean that a particular cultural behavior now is ‘equally acceptable’ in the professional work place. Again Mourinho wants to work with soldiers (as did Ferguson) married simple haircuts no frillsno standing out from the team and so do I.

To bolster the point Ive read a poster in the last 24 hrs who I consider a reliable ITK say that he turned up to the training ground with two friends, all with trousers below their butts and Mourinho went mad andbanned them from the training ground and sent him to train alone when he refused to warm down properly. Could it all be smoke...perhaps but it fits the personality I perceive- And yes Mourinho has form for falling out, is a snide narcissistic bully who lacks empathy- but right now it’s all good with me that he’s our manager until/if he fails and that style of sociopathy is the best chance we have to over perform to the point where we may realistically be able to win things.

That's a lot of assumption and projection.
I give you John Barnes or Clint Dempsey for playing the rap culture and to be fair Barnes nailed it people loved it his cameo.

Deleted member 27995 · Jun 26, 2020

Snarfalicious said:
I like to carry myself with general dignity and really don’t like to be overly rude, ridicule posts, etc. I’ve posted over the years and try to keep it light.

But, your shitty post is fucking abhorrent.

Is it the word 'Ghetto' that is abhorrent, because I agree.

The post itself outside of that word poses some legitimate questions.

Lot of soap boxes being stood on in here.

cider spurs · Jun 26, 2020

thecook said:
The most outragous thing about him is that 564 pages and 11277 posts into his thread and people still don't know how to spell his surname.

Not seen it on the back of his shirt all too often in games innit. :whistle:

thekneaf · Jun 26, 2020

mugpunt said:
Heavy Jewelry, rings necklaces, brand clothing, facial hair splashed to the max. Like in gansta rap culture. Put another way the sort of stuff that would be plainly out of place in a corporate environment... are we so pc that my comment is ‘racist’ or inappropriate now!? Actually spare me the answer I don’t care to invest the time debating a point which is beyond obvious to me.

To me it seems an entirely legitimate observation that he takes a certain ‘street’ mentality if you prefer that language which sad the same thing perhaps without being accused of racial undertones. Or he’ll the kid who’s ‘too cool for school attitude in training last in the pack’ if I have to go all nicely Ali Gold to make the same point!

For gds sake grow up people, black lives mattering doesn’t mean that a particular cultural behavior now is ‘equally acceptable’ in the professional work place. Again Mourinho wants to work with soldiers (as did Ferguson) married simple haircuts no frillsno standing out from the team and so do I.

To bolster the point Ive read a poster in the last 24 hrs who I consider a reliable ITK say that he turned up to the training ground with two friends, all with trousers below their butts and Mourinho went mad andbanned them from the training ground and sent him to train alone when he refused to warm down properly. Could it all be smoke...perhaps but it fits the personality I perceive- And yes Mourinho has form for falling out, is a snide narcissistic bully who lacks empathy- but right now it’s all good with me that he’s our manager until/if he fails and that style of sociopathy is the best chance we have to over perform to the point where we may realistically be able to win things.

There's so much to unpack.

Ghetto is an incredibly loaded word. If you don't get that, read some history.

Ndombele leaves you a lot to actually criticise so you don't need to infer stuff about his upbringing.

DanielJohnCosta · Jun 26, 2020

mugpunt said:
To bolster the point Ive read a poster in the last 24 hrs who I consider a reliable ITK say that he turned up to the training ground with two friends, all with trousers below their butts and Mourinho went mad andbanned them from the training ground

care to share who?
also, this sounds ridiculously outrageous considering the precautions due to Covid-19 of who is allowed inside the training ground. I doubt two friends just casually strolled past the checkpoint and into the facilities to be banned

thekneaf · Jun 26, 2020

mugpunt said:
Heavy Jewelry, rings necklaces, brand clothing, facial hair splashed to the max. Like in gansta rap culture. Put another way the sort of stuff that would be plainly out of place in a corporate environment... are we so pc that my comment is ‘racist’ or inappropriate now!? Actually spare me the answer I don’t care to invest the time debating a point which is beyond obvious to me.

To me it seems an entirely legitimate observation that he takes a certain ‘street’ mentality if you prefer that language which sad the same thing perhaps without being accused of racial undertones. Or he’ll the kid who’s ‘too cool for school attitude in training last in the pack’ if I have to go all nicely Ali Gold to make the same point!

For gds sake grow up people, black lives mattering doesn’t mean that a particular cultural behavior now is ‘equally acceptable’ in the professional work place. Again Mourinho wants to work with soldiers (as did Ferguson) married simple haircuts no frillsno standing out from the team and so do I.

To bolster the point Ive read a poster in the last 24 hrs who I consider a reliable ITK say that he turned up to the training ground with two friends, all with trousers below their butts and Mourinho went mad andbanned them from the training ground and sent him to train alone when he refused to warm down properly. Could it all be smoke...perhaps but it fits the personality I perceive- And yes Mourinho has form for falling out, is a snide narcissistic bully who lacks empathy- but right now it’s all good with me that he’s our manager until/if he fails and that style of sociopathy is the best chance we have to over perform to the point where we may realistically be able to win things.

Images 1

You get that a lot of people that wear suits to work look like this at the weekend? He's hardly rocking a 6ix9ine look.

spids · Jun 26, 2020

Hoddle&Waddle said:
He hasn't shown it yet, but let's not forget that Sissoko didnt have the best of starts here either.

I think we know that at some point Sissoko is going to miss games due to injury. That for me will be the chance for Tungay. Then it's down to him.

In the system we are playing Winks, Skipp and Gedson are more likely to play in one of the two CM roles. If Ndombele wants a game he will have to compete with Moura, Dele, Lamela and Bergwijn for one of the two inside forward / no. 10 roles. Not saying that is right, but the CM positions require JMs trust more. Note that to get one of the inside forward roles you have to be prepared to do an awful lot of disciplined running off the ball to keep the defensive shape. It’s the reason Ndombele hasn’t had any minutes so far. And if he continues with his languid, disinterested approach in training then we won’t see him anytime soon.

In a perfect world we’d have a world class DCM anchoring Lo Celso and Ndombele, with Bergwijn and Son either side of Kane. But I cannot see that happening any time soon.

spids · Jun 26, 2020

Jamturk said:
He may of been wearing layers to sweat some extra weight off.

That had crossed my mind too, and whilst there has been a lot of negative reports about his training, the few clips I’ve seen he has looked sharp!

HedgieSpur · Jun 26, 2020

mugpunt said:
Heavy Jewelry, rings necklaces, brand clothing, facial hair splashed to the max. Like in gansta rap culture. Put another way the sort of stuff that would be plainly out of place in a corporate environment... are we so pc that my comment is ‘racist’ or inappropriate now!? Actually spare me the answer I don’t care to invest the time debating a point which is beyond obvious to me.

To me it seems an entirely legitimate observation that he takes a certain ‘street’ mentality if you prefer that language which sad the same thing perhaps without being accused of racial undertones. Or he’ll the kid who’s ‘too cool for school attitude in training last in the pack’ if I have to go all nicely Ali Gold to make the same point!

For gds sake grow up people, black lives mattering doesn’t mean that a particular cultural behavior now is ‘equally acceptable’ in the professional work place. Again Mourinho wants to work with soldiers (as did Ferguson) married simple haircuts no frillsno standing out from the team and so do I.

To bolster the point Ive read a poster in the last 24 hrs who I consider a reliable ITK say that he turned up to the training ground with two friends, all with trousers below their butts and Mourinho went mad andbanned them from the training ground and sent him to train alone when he refused to warm down properly. Could it all be smoke...perhaps but it fits the personality I perceive- And yes Mourinho has form for falling out, is a snide narcissistic bully who lacks empathy- but right now it’s all good with me that he’s our manager until/if he fails and that style of sociopathy is the best chance we have to over perform to the point where we may realistically be able to win things.

As a person of colour, I'll simply say that the opinions expressed by you exemplify why Black Lives Matter is so important. Intolerance, ignorance and bigotry all rolled into 1 post and doubled down with "pc gone mad".

But I do have to thank you, because Ive used your post to show my 15 and 12 year old exactly what intolerance looks like and why they need to be the agents of change.

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