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ajspurs

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I don't know how anyone is surprised at that. When you factor in the current circumstances and the fact that this is Spurs we're talking about, would it really be any other way?
 

spursfan77

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Matt Law, lol.

he may well be right, but it’s a literal guarantee that this article isn’t based on any knowledge, merely supposition based on circumstance with just the faintest whiff of agenda mixed in for good measure.

100%

He covers us for the Telegraph but every single article is against the club in some way. No point listening to him at all.
 

dontcallme

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I don't know how anyone is surprised at that. When you factor in the current circumstances and the fact that this is Spurs we're talking about, would it really be any other way?
I think the point is that many clubs will be in poor financial situations.

ENIC like to invest when there is a return. If this is a good time to get good deals from clubs previously in a position to ask for sky high prices then we could spend.
 

ajspurs

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I think the point is that many clubs will be in poor financial situations.

ENIC like to invest when there is a return. If this is a good time to get good deals from clubs previously in a position to ask for sky high prices then we could spend.

I get you, I just wouldn't hold my breath personally. I know it's not fully the case and it isn't so black and white and there are many variables to be had at this particular moment in time especially but sometimes it does just feel like we look for an excuse not to spend. Not that it isn't somewhat valid this time around but even without coronavirus I'm sure we would still hear the same lines that seem to be repeated every window as to why we haven't done the business we've needed to.
 

dontcallme

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I get you, I just wouldn't hold my breath personally. I know it's not fully the case and it isn't so black and white and there are many variables to be had at this particular moment in time especially but sometimes it does just feel like we look for an excuse not to spend. Not that it isn't somewhat valid this time around but even without coronavirus I'm sure we would still hear the same lines that seem to be repeated every window as to why we haven't done the business we've needed to.
I find that a strange comment considering how much we spent on Ndombele and Sessegnon last summer plus the potential costs of Lo Celso and Fernandes.
 

ajspurs

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I find that a strange comment considering how much we spent on Ndombele and Sessegnon last summer plus the potential costs of Lo Celso and Fernandes.

I said 'sometimes it feels' as well as saying I know it's not fully the case and I don't just mean to spend in general to clarify, I mean to spend on what we really need. Gedson for example, yes it's nice to have fresh blood in the team but would I have earmarked such a player as a necessity at this current point? Not personally. There were times in the Modric/VDV/Bale days where we felt we were just a few signings away from completing the puzzle and didn't. Times under Pochettino where we really could have propelled ourselves massively with just one or two 'special' signings and didn't, not to mention the year without spending at all, not having a backup to Kane for periods despite that repeatedly hitting us on the arse and even when we knew he was injured and selling Trippier to leave ourselves with only Aurier.

I don't mean to say it's all bad but to put it bluntly, I just don't trust us in the market.
 

dontcallme

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I said 'sometimes it feels' as well as saying I know it's not fully the case and I don't just mean to spend in general to clarify, I mean to spend on what we really need. Gedson for example, yes it's nice to have fresh blood in the team but would I have earmarked such a player as a necessity at this current point? Not personally. There were times in the Modric/VDV/Bale days where we felt we were just a few signings away from completing the puzzle and didn't. Times under Pochettino where we really could have propelled ourselves massively with just one or two 'special' signings and didn't, not to mention the year without spending at all, not having a backup to Kane for periods despite that repeatedly hitting us on the arse and even when we knew he was injured and selling Trippier to leave ourselves with only Aurier.

I don't mean to say it's all bad but to put it bluntly, I just don't trust us in the market.
I certainly agree that we struggle at the top end. We have had a level of success with buying players with high potential, developing them and selling them if we get them to the top level.

I think ENIC like to be sensible with money, captain obvious I know, and their growth plan has been to increase our turnover to buy players within our financial framework rather than looking to be ambitious and go for that higher level player.

I think their plan was to go for those levels of player once we had a turnover to match the top clubs.

Personally I would liked to have seen more Naybet and Davids type of deals. High quality, experienced players on short term deals to help the quality younger players we have.
 

ajspurs

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I certainly agree that we struggle at the top end. We have had a level of success with buying players with high potential, developing them and selling them if we get them to the top level.

I think ENIC like to be sensible with money, captain obvious I know, and their growth plan has been to increase our turnover to buy players within our financial framework rather than looking to be ambitious and go for that higher level player.

I think their plan was to go for those levels of player once we had a turnover to match the top clubs.

Personally I would liked to have seen more Naybet and Davids type of deals. High quality, experienced players on short term deals to help the quality younger players we have.

Yeah agree, especially with the end as I feel we've been a young talented side for years now and think we could really do with players of experience along with quality and a winners mentality amongst the group to fully bring it all together. I don't see many in this team who would demand respect, really pump the players up or grill them if needed, certainly not on the pitch anyway and the players who might in the dressing room, the more experienced ones like Toby, Jan or Hugo are the same voices a lot of the players have been hearing for years now. Like I've said numerous times I really think we need players who will upgrade our mentality as well as capabilities on the pitch.
 

dontcallme

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Yeah agree, especially with the end as I feel we've been a young talented side for years now and think we could really do with players of experience along with quality and a winners mentality amongst the group to fully bring it all together. I don't see many in this team who would demand respect, really pump the players up or grill them if needed, certainly not on the pitch anyway and the players who might in the dressing room, the more experienced ones like Toby, Jan or Hugo are the same voices a lot of the players have been hearing for years now. Like I've said numerous times I really think we need players who will upgrade our mentality as well as capabilities on the pitch.
I remember Jol wanting Distin and an experienced centre mid and got given a very young Kaboul and KPB. What could have been.
 

BringBack_leGin

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I remember Jol wanting Distin and an experienced centre mid and got given a very young Kaboul and KPB. What could have been.
That same window he also got Darren Bent who, whether we like him or not, was proven Orem it we league goals and had come off a very good season, and Gareth Bale.
 

dontcallme

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That same window he also got Darren Bent who, whether we like him or not, was proven Orem it we league goals and had come off a very good season, and Gareth Bale.
If you think Darren Bent is the experienced head that Jol wanted from the likes of Distin then I think you'll stand alone in that thought.

Bent was 23 when we bought him. Distin was 30 at the time.

I actually have no idea how your post is a response to what I said.
 
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journeyman

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I’ve been thinking about how we could improve our squad and make it better balanced if we really are limited to just free transfers, swaps etc:

In on free: Willian, Meunier

Out at end of contract: Jan, Vorm

Swap: Foyth & KWP for Hojbjerg

Swap: Lamela to Italy for a left-back
 

Clark28

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If it is a quiet summer for all the clubs, at least we'll get to see more of Skipp and Tanganga
 

yankspurs

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He covers us for the Telegraph but every single article is against the club in some way. No point listening to him at all.
The source does not matter. Stop bitching about the source. The actual crux of the piece is what matters. And that is most likely based in fact.

However, you can say that about every club. Simply put, the money is not available. 2 yr loans with options, free transfers and extremely cut price transfers will be the story of the next few summers until fans are back for at least a full season, could be more. The sport needs to survive. Clubs need to survive.
 
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daryl hannah

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The source does not matter. Stop bitching about the source. The actual crux of the piece is what matters. And that is most likely based in fact.

However, you can say that about every club. Simply put, the money is not available. 2 yr loans with options, free transfers and extremely cut price transfers will be the story of the next few summers until fans are back for at least a full season, could be more. The sport needs to survive. Clubs need to survive.

Just entertain this:

Poch earned us £200m in CL revenue - money that couldn't be factored into the stadium build.

Incoming funds from outgoing players:
January & Summer 2019 - we sold Dembele, Trippier, Janssen, Onomah swap, Nkoudou = £37m incoming funds
January 2020 - we sold Eriksen, and loaned KWP, CCV, & Rose = £24m incoming funds
Total incoming since the windows where nothing happened = £61m of incoming funds.

Outgoing spend on incoming players:
Summer 2019 - Clarke (£10m), Ndombele (£55m), Lo Celso (£28.8m + £14.4m loan fee), Sess (£25m) = £133m spend
January 2020 - Bergwijn (£27m), Gedson (£4m, loan fee with £25m option) = £56m potential spend
Total spend commitment since the windows where nothing happened = £189m spend
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Net spend since the windows where nothing happened = £128m


Then...

Incoming funds from outgoing players 2020 (example illustration):
Summer/Autumn 2020 - we will loan and sell Clarke, Amos, Foyth, KWP, Rose, prob sell Aurier and maybe Lamela/Dier = roughly £60m incoming

Outgoing spend on incoming players 2020 (example illustration):
Summer/Autumn 2020 - Hojbjerg (£15m), Eze (£20m), Milik (£36m), Maripan (£25m), Right back 1 (£20m), Right back 2 (£3m loan deal?) = roughly £120m spend

So...

Total incoming since the windows where nothing happened = £121m of incoming funds.
Total spend commitment since the windows where nothing happened =
£308m of spend
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Net spend since the windows where nothing happened = £187m


In the next transfer window we could afford to spend £120m quite easily based on the fact of having had £200m of CL revenue.

In terms of wages, you've got Vertonghen, Rose, Wanyama, Trippier and Eriksen all off the books. I believe the club will be looking at total spend over a period of a few years. In this case I've chosen the period since the windows we signed and sold nobody.
 
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Cochise

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Eze seems like such a strange buy IMO. I cannot see where he fits in the team atm and we need to spend in other area's first.
 

dontcallme

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Eze seems like such a strange buy IMO. I cannot see where he fits in the team atm and we need to spend in other area's first.
Think it depends on his quality. We want to go back to buying the best young talent. If he is quality and we can help him develop then he'll find his place.
 

hellava_tough

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With the unusual situation that the footballing world finds itself in, there's an unparalleled opportunity for us to bring in the best young talent from the lower leagues, at seriously discounted prices.

Personally, I think we should fully embrace this. If we're strapped for cash then we should adk Uncle Joe for an interest-free loan and guarantee paying him back over the next 2 to 3 seasons, once revenue streams pick up again.

You know that our rivals will be looking to raid the lower leagues.
 

dontcallme

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With the unusual situation that the footballing world finds itself in, there's an unparalleled opportunity for us to bring in the best young talent from the lower leagues, at seriously discounted prices.

Personally, I think we should fully embrace this. If we're strapped for cash then we should adk Uncle Joe for an interest-free loan and guarantee paying him back over the next 2 to 3 seasons, once revenue streams pick up again.

You know that our rivals will be looking to raid the lower leagues.
There is certainly an opportunity but we have a full squad so will need to sell.

Vorm, Aurier, Davies, Verts, Foyth, Lamela, Dier, Sissoko, Moura and Winks are all possibilities for the sell list but finding teams to buy them and pay their wages.

Alternatively we could some out and have a higher net spend.
 
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