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Prem players agree to give their money to NHS charities

Shadydan

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Fantastic initiative this, makes Matt Hancock look like a bit of an idiot now.
 

tototoner

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Here’s the thing, Premier League players are all PAYE so unlike most really rich folk they actually pay the tax they should.

The a real class element to this you don’t see - Hancock chasing billionaires or trying to get Google, Apple or Amazon to pay corporation tax.

You don’t see them haranguing Benedict Cumberbatch for earning $10 million dollars a movie or God forbid asking James Ratcliffe of Sir James Dyson to pay their fair share.

Footballers are a soft target.
 
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Rob

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Looks like this has back-fired badly on the clubs.
They tried to shame the players into taking a pay cut by framing it as some kind of support for the country.
The players have now cut out the clubs completely and rather than saving the clubs money, the clubs are now effectively paying millions to the NHS.
 

spursfan1991

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Its nice what they have done but they need to do a bit more for their clubs.

The attitude and behaviour of the top flight premier league players has been terrible in the past 10 years. In particular, when they dont like their manager, they throw a hissy fit and completely fail to perform resulting in that manager getting sacked. Its happened too many times. Players always seem to get what they want.
 

carpediem991

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Yeah good on them giving money to the ones who need it but it is a bit of a slap in the face for the clubs.
The clubs will lose a lot of money now and in the near future when a lot of companies need to overthink their sponsoring.

This is resulting in one party needs to make up for that loss. And who is a better target than the normal staff? Oh yeah, the fans/customers who are paying more and more for tickets, shirts and TV Deals year by year...
 

spursfan77

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Great for the NHS, great for football, I’m not so sure.

It will be interesting to see the figures involved. A couple of million is a lot of money to us but we all know how much running the nhs costs. It won’t make a dent. Better than nothing of course.
 

Shadydan

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Its nice what they have done but they need to do a bit more for their clubs.

The attitude and behaviour of the top flight premier league players has been terrible in the past 10 years. In particular, when they dont like their manager, they throw a hissy fit and completely fail to perform resulting in that manager getting sacked. Its happened too many times. Players always seem to get what they want.

Yet their clubs will be the first ones lining up offering them lucrative contracts and paying them ridiculous money.
 

spursfan77

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Looks like this has back-fired badly on the clubs.
They tried to shame the players into taking a pay cut by framing it as some kind of support for the country.
The players have now cut out the clubs completely and rather than saving the clubs money, the clubs are now effectively paying millions to the NHS.

They’ll still have to take paycuts for their clubs though won’t they?

Some clubs will struggle, admittedly I don’t think premier league ones will go out of business but those down the league ladder are going to be in trouble.
 

$hoguN

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Fantastic initiative this, makes Matt Hancock look like a bit of an idiot now.

No it does not, if he hadn’t applied public pressure they wouldn’t have done it. The statement over the last week is telling
 

$hoguN

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Here’s the thing Premier League players are all PAYE so unlike most really rich folk they actually pay the tax they should.

The a real class element to this you don’t see - Hancock chasing billionaires or trying to get Google, Apple or Amazon to pay corporation tax.

You don’t see them haranguing Benedict Cumberbatch for earning $10 million dollars a movie or God forbid asking James Ratcliffe of Sir James Dyson to pay their fair share.

Footballers are a soft target.
Only in terms of their direct earnings from clubs but sponsorship money won’t be registered as a second income via PAYE
 

Shadydan

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No it does not, if he hadn’t applied public pressure they wouldn’t have done it. The statement over the last week is telling

The public pressure should have been applied across the board, not just to Premier League footballers, but to other millionaires who have done the square root of fuck all - the question is why single out PL footballers?
 

Trotter

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Interesting point Toby's lawyer/agent came out with yesterday in respect of players taking wage reductions.

"There is also a perverse effect of a wage reduction for players. As soon as things have returned to normal and games are being played and broadcast, players who accepted reduced wages will have facilitated their club’s purchase of new players and allowed them to bring in competitors for their position. A wage reduction could be accepted only if clubs commit to reimburse the wages before paying a transfer fee to bring in new players".



 

$hoguN

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The public pressure should have been applied across the board, not just to Premier League footballers, but to other millionaires who have done the square root of fuck all - the question is why single out PL footballers?
Mainly because they are contracted to clubs who are using the furlough scheme to relieve the financial burden of the pandemic without first targeting those that will not be out at hardship by such a decision
 

Shadydan

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Mainly because they are contracted to clubs who are using the furlough scheme to relieve the financial burden of the pandemic without first targeting those that will not be out at hardship by such a decision

And so are the many millionaires who own businesses in this country who are using the furlough scheme and aren't paying money out of their back pocket - There's nothing stopping the likes of Virgin, Easyjet, Mothercare, Pret, Capita owners and board members paying out but they used the scheme as well so why weren't they called out?
 

Trotter

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Looks like this has back-fired badly on the clubs.
They tried to shame the players into taking a pay cut by framing it as some kind of support for the country.
The players have now cut out the clubs completely and rather than saving the clubs money, the clubs are now effectively paying millions to the NHS.

Yep, So Southampton playing staff have agreed to defer (not reduce) a portion of their wages for April through June. Will help with the cashflow of the club. Southampton have agreed in return not to furlough, or reduce wages of any non-playing staff for the same period.
 
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RichieS

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Interesting point Toby's lawyer/agent came out with yesterday in respect of players taking wage reductions.

"There is also a perverse effect of a wage reduction for players. As soon as things have returned to normal and games are being played and broadcast, players who accepted reduced wages will have facilitated their club’s purchase of new players and allowed them to bring in competitors for their position. A wage reduction could be accepted only if clubs commit to reimburse the wages before paying a transfer fee to bring in new players".



The logic only stands up if no football is lost, which looks increasingly unlikely. Clubs are probably going to have to do make do without some income that in all likelihood they've already accounted for.
 

spursfan77

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The public pressure should have been applied across the board, not just to Premier League footballers, but to other millionaires who have done the square root of fuck all - the question is why single out PL footballers?

Because he knows Premier League footballers can’t resist the good publicity?
 

spursfan77

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Interesting point Toby's lawyer/agent came out with yesterday in respect of players taking wage reductions.

"There is also a perverse effect of a wage reduction for players. As soon as things have returned to normal and games are being played and broadcast, players who accepted reduced wages will have facilitated their club’s purchase of new players and allowed them to bring in competitors for their position. A wage reduction could be accepted only if clubs commit to reimburse the wages before paying a transfer fee to bring in new players".




I think we all know Toby’s agent is a bit of a git
 
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