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Jose Mourinho

How do you feel about Mourinho appointment

  • Excited - silverware here we come baby

    Votes: 666 46.7%
  • Meh - will give him a chance and hope he is successful

    Votes: 468 32.8%
  • Horrified - praying for the day he'll fuck off

    Votes: 292 20.5%

  • Total voters
    1,426

14/04/91

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I also dont understand why people are taking Jose's quote about not needing a rebuild on face value. No way would he say that now, when the squad is low in both confidence and numbers. He needs this lot to muddle through before swinging the axe in the summer.

He said the entire Leipzig bench would make our first XI at the moment, how’s that going to help anyone’s confidence?!
 

talbot64

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Mar 11, 2004
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It’s on a knife edge with Jose,

if the players react to the criticism and buy into the philosophy and tactics then I trust he will rebuild us into contenders

If the players don’t buy in, stop playing for the manager and start looking for transfers then Levy will have a major decision to make especially if results don’t pick up

It’s not a great situation and fear the latter, let’s see how the next 9 games go
 

muppetman

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Jul 29, 2011
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The other reason to stick with Jose at the moment is who would you replace him with? If you ignore the idea of Poch coming back then who is available and better? The names often bandied about are at successful clubs so won't want to move?
 

Japhet

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Aug 30, 2010
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Now that I totally agree with and would hope that Levy isn’t stupid enough to hire Mourinho and not back him ?

When Mourinho was hired he said he was very happy with the squad and didn't need to rebuild. To me, that seemed like a snide dig at Pochettino, suggesting that it just needed somebody who knew what they were doing to turn things around. A few months in, and he's overseeing a mixture of dreadful football and shite results. Yes, we've had injuries, but losing Son and Kane doesn't make us piss easy to score against. If Levy is going to back Mourinho the way he's historically been backed to win anything, it's going to be an eye-watering affair, but my huge concern is that doing so will give us a more expensive version of what we're watching now, which is largely unwatchable.
 

GutBucket

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May 26, 2013
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The other reason to stick with Jose at the moment is who would you replace him with? If you ignore the idea of Poch coming back then who is available and better? The names often bandied about are at successful clubs so won't want to move?

I think he deserves a second season chance but I wish we had interim manager and went for Nagelsmann in summer (or someone else with similar philosphy and style). We should certainly stick with him and see what he can do with a balanced and healthy squad, next season if it's still shit football and results then we will know for sure.
 

muppetman

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I think he deserves a second season chance but I wish we had interim manager and went for Nagelsmann in summer (or someone else with similar philosphy and style). We should certainly stick with him and see what he can do with a balanced and healthy squad, next season if it's still shit football and results then we will know for sure.
Pretty much where I was and am at the moment. I like the romance of the "project manager" who'd implement an exciting style of play but we are where we are and so might as well twist.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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I got back and forth on whether we can judge him now or not.

He didn't get the summer to bed in his players and install his identity on the team. He inherited a team with aging defenders and shortage at key positions. He has been struck by a huge amount of injuries and lost Son, Kane and Sissoko for extended periods of time. And one of his January purchases now out for the rest of the year as well. That is a lot to give him a break on.....

But then plenty of managers have come in with aging teams or teams that they didn't pick and made it work. Pulis and Fat Sam (neither who i would want) have made a living out of being airdropped into a team and making them defensively stout while being dull in attack and they do it with far less talent than Jose has available. We look confused at the back frequently. Our attack looks toothless most matches. A big chunk of that comes from coaching but can be helped with bringing in the "right" players.

But the part that genuinely bothers me is that the players just don't seem to be fighting. That part is 100% on Jose and strikes me as the squad just not buying into what he is preaching. That is much harder to fix and usually is what ends up costing a manager his job.

People keep saying this about the players not fighting or not trying.

It’s absolute bollocks.

I haven’t seen a single game where the players aren’t busting a gut. I think people are confused about ability and effort.

I can’t fault the players efforts so far under Mourinho. They’ve been more willing to run than under a Poch earlier this season. It’s their ability that’s the problem.
 

Japhet

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I also dont understand why people are taking Jose's quote about not needing a rebuild on face value. No way would he say that now, when the squad is low in both confidence and numbers. He needs this lot to muddle through before swinging the axe in the summer.

It's probably Mourinho telling Levy what he wanted to hear when he had a 15m per year carrot dangling in front of him. Pochettino said it needed doing and got booted out in favour of Mourinho who said it didn't.
 

dudu

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Jan 28, 2011
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People keep saying this about the players not fighting or not trying.

It’s absolute bollocks.

I haven’t seen a single game where the players aren’t busting a gut. I think people are confused about ability and effort.

I can’t fault the players efforts so far under Mourinho. They’ve been more willing to run than under a Poch earlier this season. It’s their ability that’s the problem.

I cannot count how many unforced errors there were in our offensive play, we just give the ball away for fun.

Fo me a lot of it comes down to familiarity with the role and the players beside you in those roles. We really don't have either of those going for us right now, unfortunately.
 

Wheeler Dealer

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Jul 29, 2011
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The other reason to stick with Jose at the moment is who would you replace him with? If you ignore the idea of Poch coming back then who is available and better? The names often bandied about are at successful clubs so won't want to move?
The season is over so it doesn't really matter who you brought in. I think the players are mentally and physically exhausted and the toxic and negative atmosphere currently lingering around the club is no good for anyone.. Players fans and staff.
 

muppetman

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I cannot count how many unforced errors there were in our offensive play, we just give the ball away for fun.

Fo me a lot of it comes down to familiarity with the role and the players beside you in those roles. We really don't have either of those going for us right now, unfortunately.
Which to me is a coaching issue, the question is whether Jose has had enough time with the squad and consistency of players to work with.
 

stevenurse

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May 14, 2007
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He said the entire Leipzig bench would make our first XI at the moment, how’s that going to help anyone’s confidence?!

Because it would. He's just proving how strong their squad is.

You'd have to be a grade A moron to think under the same circumstances any manager would be performing significantly better. Genuinely unable to tie your own velcro.

The defence is appalling and you couple that with no attackers, what do you expect? People go 'hes the manager'. Yes that's true, but he doesn't have magical powers.

The problems started with the bare windows. Now we're reaping the shit that's grown because of it.

Now its Levy's job to fix it. If hes more interested in putting on JLS reunion concerts at the stadium, then Jose will walk anyway and the divs criticising will get their wish.

Its painful, its tough, its boring, its a myriad of negative things, but thats where we are.

Hopefully having Kane back in early April will give us 7 games to have a real push. I have a sneaky suspicion that Son will be back after the break too. If we can stay within 5 or so points of 5th then we might have an outside chance.

Again, anyone who formulates an opinion on the current state of the squad, without context is a certified idiot.
 
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It's probably Mourinho telling Levy what he wanted to hear when he had a 15m per year carrot dangling in front of him. Pochettino said it needed doing and got booted out in favour of Mourinho who said it didn't.
That's a little ott isn't it? This is the kind of sentiment that tends to make people dig their heels in harder. Poch wasn't booted out because he mentioned the squad needed an overhaul. Even I see that this squad was pretty much on it's knees which also highlights as fans how much we don't (some cases won't) see things even if it's sat glaring us in the face.
 

stevenqoz

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Mourinho was never going to be here for a long time. He is no builder of eras. I was happy to be proved wrong on my initial skepticism with regard to him at Spurs. Do I look forward to a rebuild under him? At the moment I would just like to see the back of him. He seems like a modern day George Graham bringing a 'joyless' Spurs:bored:
 

14/04/91

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Jan 13, 2006
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Because it would. He's just proving how strong their squad is.

You'd have to be a grade A moron to think under the same circumstances any manager would be performing significantly better. Genuinely unable to tie your own velcro.

The defence is appalling and you couple that with no attackers, what do you expect? People go 'hes the manager'. Yes that's true, but he doesn't have magical powers.

The problems started with the bare windows. Now we're reaping the shit that's grown because of it.

Now its Levy's job to fix it. If hes more interested in putting on JLS reunion concerts at the stadium, then Jose will walk anyway the divs criticising will get their wish.

Its painful, its tough, its boring, its a myriad of negative things, but thats where we are.

Hopefully having Kane back in early April will give us 7 games to have a real push. I have a sneaky suspicion that Son will be back after the break too. If we can stay within 5 or so points of 5th then we might have an outside chance.

Again, anyone who formulates an opinion on the current state of the squad, without context is a certified idiot.

I’m not disagreeing with any of that but the fact remains he is the only manager around who would make that statement.
He’s written off this season & with quotes like that, he’s given the players another excuse to down tools.

When he was successful (Chelsea in particular) he created an us versus them mentality. Where’s that gone now?? When it’s going badly, he blames his players.

He’s just not helping an already poor situation.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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I cannot count how many unforced errors there were in our offensive play, we just give the ball away for fun.

Fo me a lot of it comes down to familiarity with the role and the players beside you in those roles. We really don't have either of those going for us right now, unfortunately.

Yep, it’s the reason it all seems a bit of a mess and it’s not going to change this season unfortunately.

We have errors all over the pitch. You can’t coach those out of players once they start making them. You just need to change the players. Ours seem to have lost all confidence and don’t look like getting it back.
 

SPURSLIFE

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Jul 21, 2011
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Now that I totally agree with and would hope that Levy isn’t stupid enough to hire Mourinho and not back him ?
But with no CL and very likely the way results are going no EL. Levy is very unlikely to back the manager unless we sell and I'm not sure we would get a lot for most of the players they would want to let go. There is also the fact that with no European football what calibre of player could we attract. I could see Mourinho bringing in experience with the likes of Smalling and Matic which would be a short term fix.
 
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