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Jose Mourinho

How do you feel about Mourinho appointment

  • Excited - silverware here we come baby

    Votes: 666 46.7%
  • Meh - will give him a chance and hope he is successful

    Votes: 468 32.8%
  • Horrified - praying for the day he'll fuck off

    Votes: 292 20.5%

  • Total voters
    1,426

doctor stefan Freud

the tired tread of sad biology
Sep 2, 2013
15,170
72,170
Fucking hell, this shit still rolling uphill?

I haven’t been enamoured by our style this season, that includes Pochettino and Mourinho. And I still smart when I remember Mourinho’s smug face in his press conference when Willian hopped in a taxi and signed better terms with Chelsea. But not giving him the benefit of a couple more windows to create his team, a preseason to focus on instilling the principles of his footballing philosophy within the squad as well as seeing what he can do with key players injury free is rampant, crazy eyed lunacy.

If he fails, so be it: but be reasonable and give him a chance before we dismiss him outright. He’s succeeded on the biggest stages in football yet somehow he’s not good enough for us before he’s even had a fair chance? I’ve seen Labradors in season with more sense than some of the shit on here
 

Gb160

Well done boys. Good process
Jun 20, 2012
23,669
93,391
If he fails, so be it: but be reasonable and give him a chance before we dismiss him outright. He’s succeeded on the biggest stages in football yet somehow he’s not good enough for us before he’s even had a fair chance? I’ve seen Labradors in season with more sense than some of the shit on here
I think the problem is people started getting their hopes up when he got us back within a sniff of the top 4, now that's looking unlikely some are shitting themselves with rage.

The season's a write off really, the sooner people just accept that the better.
 

doctor stefan Freud

the tired tread of sad biology
Sep 2, 2013
15,170
72,170
I think the problem is people started getting their hopes up when he got us back within a sniff of the top 4, now that's looking unlikely some are shitting themselves with rage.

The season's a write off really, the sooner people just accept that the better.
One of my fervent principles in life is to never agree with people with numbers in their name. But on this occasion I simply have to agree with you
 

BPR_U16

Well-Known Member
Jun 28, 2006
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2,630
The number of points achieved is not valid? I, pretty sure anyone in football will tell you otherwise.

We had the joint 2nd best points to games ratio before Sonny got injured. Before that spell we achieved 25 points in 24 games, relegation form and we went nearly a calendar year without being able to win a game away from home. If you wish to admit it or not we weren't a good team before Mourinho got sacked so o struggle to see why people think our style would change just like that. He has been in charge for 3-4 months and took us from 13th-14th in the league to 1 point away from 4th.

I think a fair few Spurs fans been to face reality. Pull their heads out of the sand and remember exactly why Pochettino got the sack. With an even worse nucleus of players now available to Mourinho (no plaayers player of the year in Sissoko, no Lloris for large spells, no Davies our number 1 left back), now no Sonny, no Kane for 14-15 games he still outperformed Pochettino's last spree months at the club. You're being unreasonable because it's Jose
Then look at the total points across a whole period - not just a portion that suits your view.

Every team over a season, Liverpool apart this year, have periods where things go well or not. Where fixtures may be advantageous to win more points, where injuries hit or do not.

When you do that you see the real position, and quite frankly its pretty poor.

Anyone can make excuses but facts are that we generally have no structure on the pitch, have been outplayed by most teams and have lost our way.

As stated before this started when Poch was in charge as he was not backed but at least you saw a game plan. Thats not there now.

Leaving the ground Sunday i heard so many disgruntled voices - had his day;
formations, or lack of; substitutions; holding Parrott back when forward needed to ensure insufficient time to make impact.

Trust me want Spurs to succeed just not convinced Jose is the man Levy thinks he is and i remain to be convinced by him.
 

rossdapep

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Aug 25, 2011
22,144
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Thanks, Tucks.

And right there, around 9:30, in the verbal equivalent of black and white, he says coming in midseason is a factor in how much he can affect training.

So, can someone tell me this: if a manager coming in mid-season cannot change training and tactics in a significant way, how can a new manager be expected to totally overhaul a club's situation in the space of three months?

We have had our new manager bounce - we took a lot of points in the early stages and now we're in the for the grind that always comes after that bounce.

People should listen and not let their prejudices determine their thinking. That said, might as well ask for the Moon.
I'm always strangely more suspicious when a coach has a honeymoon period that lasts for a period longer than 10 games or so.
 

rossdapep

Well-Known Member
Aug 25, 2011
22,144
79,646
Then look at the total points across a whole period - not just a portion that suits your view.

Every team over a season, Liverpool apart this year, have periods where things go well or not. Where fixtures may be advantageous to win more points, where injuries hit or do not.

When you do that you see the real position, and quite frankly its pretty poor.

Anyone can make excuses but facts are that we generally have no structure on the pitch, have been outplayed by most teams and have lost our way.

As stated before this started when Poch was in charge as he was not backed but at least you saw a game plan. Thats not there now.

Leaving the ground Sunday i heard so many disgruntled voices - had his day;
formations, or lack of; substitutions; holding Parrott back when forward needed to ensure insufficient time to make impact.

Trust me want Spurs to succeed just not convinced Jose is the man Levy thinks he is and i remain to be convinced by him.
Poch had no game plan from March onwards last year either!

Formation changes and personnel changes were regular and the majority of the time we were completely devoid of ideas.
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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Aug 22, 2017
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Then look at the total points across a whole period - not just a portion that suits your view.

Every team over a season, Liverpool apart this year, have periods where things go well or not. Where fixtures may be advantageous to win more points, where injuries hit or do not.

When you do that you see the real position, and quite frankly its pretty poor.

Anyone can make excuses but facts are that we generally have no structure on the pitch, have been outplayed by most teams and have lost our way.

As stated before this started when Poch was in charge as he was not backed but at least you saw a game plan. Thats not there now.

Leaving the ground Sunday i heard so many disgruntled voices - had his day;
formations, or lack of; substitutions; holding Parrott back when forward needed to ensure insufficient time to make impact.

Trust me want Spurs to succeed just not convinced Jose is the man Levy thinks he is and i remain to be convinced by him.

Anyone with half an idea about the game knows why I chose that portion of time. Simple answer if you didn't clock is it was a time when we had at least one of our two most important players who can score goals.

Is it fair to look at how we have fared since we lost Sonny, not to mention Eriksen and Kane? Personally I don't think it is. Take players of that calibre away from ANY manager and you know they'll struggle.

Bottom line is, until we got our attacking guts ripped out by facing two of the longest spells out for Kane and Son in their time with us, both literally weeks apart we were ticking along and clawing results back just fine. Our team looked pathetic for nearly a year before Mourinho, the difference is we looked poor after he took over but he averaged over 0.5 points a game more than we were seeing prior to him taking over, not just for a few games but across 24 games.

I don't like how inpatient we as a fan base seem to have become. To give any manager 3-4 months with players that aren't his is totally unfair
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Nov 15, 2018
19,229
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Is this a bit of Déjà vu

Tottenham's Mourinho rules out summer overhaul
I suppose it’s not good for him to come out and say we need that as what does that say to the current players. Jose knows football so he’ll know exactly what we need but he’s also said it will take us a few more transfer windows to re build the team compared to a Man City or Chelsea etc who dominate the market.

I think it’s obvious that we need to upgrade:
RB
LB
CB
DM
ST

possibly another AM if Lamela can’t stay fit but mainly the 5 positions above are what we need and if we got a quality CB, LB and Striker and DM if Ndombele can’t be trusted then we should be extremely strong next season but let’s see.

Just by signing another striker that enables us to have far more attacking options rotating in midfield instead of wingers having to cover us up front so that should be 100% priority. Then we need to replace Jan and Rose and ideally get a better back-up to Aurier.

Im certainly not expecting miracles in the summer but I hope we can add minimum 3 quality players and if we do I think that will make a big difference especially with Kane son and sissoko back.

will be interesting to see the amazon documentary to see what actually goes on behind the scenes if they show us any player target and transfer discussions like they did in the Leeds and Man City ones.
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

Well-Known Member
Aug 22, 2017
1,665
6,291
I think the problem is people started getting their hopes up when he got us back within a sniff of the top 4, now that's looking unlikely some are shitting themselves with rage.

The season's a write off really, the sooner people just accept that the better.

If people want to shit themselves with rage at the fact we have lost Eriksen, Kane and Son all pretty much at the same time then that's up to them to get angry about something that is uncontrollable. If people want to be babies about it and sulk and point fingers when in reality we were actually starting to out the first piece of form we'd seem since we lost the Champions League final that's up to them..

Disraeli once said it's easier for people to be critical than to be correct. Bloke would have been a Spurs fan if he was around these days for sure.
 
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Hakkz

Svensk hetsporre
Jul 6, 2012
8,196
17,270
Then look at the total points across a whole period - not just a portion that suits your view.

Every team over a season, Liverpool apart this year, have periods where things go well or not. Where fixtures may be advantageous to win more points, where injuries hit or do not.

When you do that you see the real position, and quite frankly its pretty poor.

Anyone can make excuses but facts are that we generally have no structure on the pitch, have been outplayed by most teams and have lost our way.

As stated before this started when Poch was in charge as he was not backed but at least you saw a game plan. Thats not there now.

Leaving the ground Sunday i heard so many disgruntled voices - had his day;
formations, or lack of; substitutions; holding Parrott back when forward needed to ensure insufficient time to make impact.

Trust me want Spurs to succeed just not convinced Jose is the man Levy thinks he is and i remain to be convinced by him.

Bullshit.
 

SugarRay

Well-Known Member
Jul 6, 2011
7,984
11,110
I suppose it’s not good for him to come out and say we need that as what does that say to the current players. Jose knows football so he’ll know exactly what we need but he’s also said it will take us a few more transfer windows to re build the team compared to a Man City or Chelsea etc who dominate the market.

I think it’s obvious that we need to upgrade:
RB
LB
CB
DM
ST

possibly another AM if Lamela can’t stay fit but mainly the 5 positions above are what we need and if we got a quality CB, LB and Striker and DM if Ndombele can’t be trusted then we should be extremely strong next season but let’s see.

Just by signing another striker that enables us to have far more attacking options rotating in midfield instead of wingers having to cover us up front so that should be 100% priority. Then we need to replace Jan and Rose and ideally get a better back-up to Aurier.

Im certainly not expecting miracles in the summer but I hope we can add minimum 3 quality players and if we do I think that will make a big difference especially with Kane son and sissoko back.

will be interesting to see the amazon documentary to see what actually goes on behind the scenes if they show us any player target and transfer discussions like they did in the Leeds and Man City ones.


I agree on the amount of players required, like everyone else here I assume. Like you I can’t see us addressing all these issues immediately ( if ever given our recent approach it transfers and squad building )

I just really hope we address the most glaring issues first and foremost. No messing about. That would be one of the full backs, defensive mid and cover/partner for Harry. I’d say that’s what we need a minimum. Not necessarily massive buys, but clever, players that suit what we need. No more deals for the sake of it/square pegs in round holes
 

rez9000

Any point?
Feb 8, 2007
11,942
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Fuck me, the Coronavirus thread is more uplifting than this one.
If people want to shit themselves wihnrage at the fact we have lost Eriksen, Kane and Son all pretty much at the same time then that's up to them to get angry about something that is uncontrollable. If people want to be babies about it and sulk and point fingers when in reality we were actually starting to out the first piece of form we'd seem since we lost the Champions League final that's up to them..

Disraeli once said it's easier for people to be critical than to be correct. Bloke would have been a Spurs fan if he was around these days for sure.
And then considering some of the stuff our lot come out with, we have the gall to laugh at AFTV and how toxic they are.
 

rez9000

Any point?
Feb 8, 2007
11,942
21,098
One of my fervent principles in life is to never agree with people with numbers in their name. But on this occasion I simply have to agree with you
I'll have you both know the 9000 family has a very long and varied history!

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