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Can’t wait to see who ENIC appoint after Mourinho...can’t wait for his first window as Levy gives him his third or fourth choice options on the last day of the transfer window.......if he’s lucky

Drink!Drink! said:

Can’t wait to see who ENIC appoint after Mourinho...can’t wait for his first window as Levy gives him his third or fourth choice options on the last day of the transfer window.......if he’s lucky

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davidmatzdorf said:

No it isn't. "Opinion" is way overrated. Observation, facts and analysis are much better.

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In your opinion

Shadydan said:

Oh look we lose and thread gets bumped again what a surprise lol

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Come on, It’s their fault when we lose but never when we win

spursfan77 said:

Come on, It’s their fault when we lose but never when we win

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Levy should have done better with that first goal tbf and Lewis didn't exactly cover himself in glory for their winner.

Shadydan said:

Levy should have done better with that first goal tbf and Lewis didn't exactly cover himself in glory for their winner.

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That is literally how people sound on Twitter

What a fucking shambles this club is right now.

Levys fucking head.

nedley said:

What a fucking shambles this club is right now.

Levys fucking head.

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Calm down, It's not Game of Thrones mate.

wow this went quiet quickly this week, I expect they are warming up for tomorrow night

Nothing to do with their overall job but, Levy is really losing the transfer game he seemingly thinks he has a knack for.

Tucked up majorly by Eriksen and mugged off by Inter
Wanyama been for sale for two years, now leaves on a free
Last minute ( probably bullshit ) deals never coming off
Last big outlay looking questionable at best
Apparently people wanted Rose for £40m odd couple of years ago, now on loan at Toon and will barely bring in £10m if made permanent


The whole point of transfer ‘trading’ if you will is buy at reasonable prices and maximise the selling fee and selling at the right time. 2/3 years ago if you’d have said we’d end up getting under £30m for Eriksen, Rose and Wanyama you’d have laughed. We need a proper director of football who can play the game properly

SugarRay said:

Nothing to do with their overall job but, Levy is really losing the transfer game he seemingly thinks he has a knack for.

Tucked up majorly by Eriksen and mugged off by Inter
Wanyama been for sale for two years, now leaves on a free
Last minute ( probably bullshit ) deals never coming off
Last big outlay looking questionable at best
Apparently people wanted Rose for £40m odd couple of years ago, now on loan at Toon and will barely bring in £10m if made permanent


The whole point of transfer ‘trading’ if you will is buy at reasonable prices and maximise the selling fee and selling at the right time. 2/3 years ago if you’d have said we’d end up getting under £30m for Eriksen, Rose and Wanyama you’d have laughed. We need a proper director of football who can play the game properly

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Now argue that in context...if you knew Wanyama was gonna be a complete permacrock, Rose would lose his pace and agility and Eriksen would aim run his contract down to leave on a free then you'd probably look at the situation and understand the fees.

Chelsea wanted Rose for £40m in 2017, if he would have sold him the same year he sold Walker you would never had forgiven him.

Eriksen thing has been done to death, refused to sign neumorous contracts unlike virtually every other player so let his contract run down, again if he had sold him any earlier you wouldn't have forgiven him AND he has to WANT to leave, he didn't and clearly had his mind set on only a couple of clubs.

Wanyama I will give you.

Not sure on the 'probably bullshit deals' don't think it's worth debating about your unecessary negative speculation, do you?

Ironically Levy is famed for doing what you said, buying low and selling high and has been doing that for years much to the frustrations of Spurs fans but since his alleged 'bad business' is in the minority he suddenly isn't able to negotiate transfers...okay.

SugarRay said:

Nothing to do with their overall job but, Levy is really losing the transfer game he seemingly thinks he has a knack for.

Tucked up majorly by Eriksen and mugged off by Inter
Wanyama been for sale for two years, now leaves on a free
Last minute ( probably bullshit ) deals never coming off
Last big outlay looking questionable at best
Apparently people wanted Rose for £40m odd couple of years ago, now on loan at Toon and will barely bring in £10m if made permanent


The whole point of transfer ‘trading’ if you will is buy at reasonable prices and maximise the selling fee and selling at the right time. 2/3 years ago if you’d have said we’d end up getting under £30m for Eriksen, Rose and Wanyama you’d have laughed. We need a proper director of football who can play the game properly

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We've needed one ever since Baldini left. But there's little point in bringing one in while Levy maintains his iron grip on the pursestrings...

Shadydan said:

Now argue that in context...if you knew Wanyama was gonna be a complete permacrock, Rose would lose his pace and agility and Eriksen would aim run his contract down to leave on a free then you'd probably look at the situation and understand the fees.

Chelsea wanted Rose for £40m in 2017, if he would have sold him the same year he sold Walker you would never had forgiven him.

Eriksen thing has been done to death, refused to sign neumorous contracts unlike virtually every other player so let his contract run down, again if he had sold him any earlier you wouldn't have forgiven him AND he has to WANT to leave, he didn't and clearly had his mind set on only a couple of clubs.

Wanyama I will give you.

Not sure on the 'probably bullshit deals' don't think it's worth debating about your unecessary negative speculation, do you?

Ironically Levy is famed for doing what you said, buying low and selling high and has been doing that for years much to the frustrations of Spurs fans but since his alleged 'bad business' is in the minority he suddenly isn't able to negotiate transfers...okay.

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Yes yes, but other than that, what have the Romans ever done for us!?

HodisGawd said:

I absolutely 100 per cent agree with this.

I see Levy-hating Spurs fans going absolutely apoplectic about us not having won the League Cup or FA Cup for ages. As if that would change anything. But really, it all comes down to, as you say, "That is the nature of sport sometimes".

All Levy can do is create the conditions for winning. After that it is down to the mentality of the manager and the players and Lady Luck. And, unfortunately, she has been a spiteful bitch to us.

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The club history is build on winning cups, our most famous song is about going to Wembley to win a cup.
Spurs have won, one trophy is 20 years that is absolute failure.. unless you count net spend champions of Europe,you’ll never sing that.
i Don’t care about training grounds , the stadium or Enic property portfolio and concerts and it now looks like , Kane thinks the same too!

mkkid said:

The club history is build on winning cups, our most famous song is about going to Wembley to win a cup.
Spurs have won, one trophy is 20 years that is absolute failure.. unless you count net spend champions of Europe,you’ll never sing that.
i Don’t care about training grounds , the stadium or Enic property portfolio and concerts and it now looks like , Kane thinks the same too!

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Have you ever considered that it wasn't a choice one or the other, stadium or cups?

The wealthiest teams win most of the trophies so improving our turnover and net spend seems a pretty sensible thing to do.

I have no doubt Kane wants to win trophies but I bet he also really enjoys the huge salary he gets which we can now afford with the stadium and everything that comes with it.

I don't think ENIC made the active decision to improve our finances knowing we wouldn't win any cups. Our team and performances have improved under ENIC, not convinced it's all down to them the fact we haven't won a trophy in the last decade.

Shadydan said:

Now argue that in context...if you knew Wanyama was gonna be a complete permacrock, Rose would lose his pace and agility and Eriksen would aim run his contract down to leave on a free then you'd probably look at the situation and understand the fees.

Chelsea wanted Rose for £40m in 2017, if he would have sold him the same year he sold Walker you would never had forgiven him.

Eriksen thing has been done to death, refused to sign neumorous contracts unlike virtually every other player so let his contract run down, again if he had sold him any earlier you wouldn't have forgiven him AND he has to WANT to leave, he didn't and clearly had his mind set on only a couple of clubs.

Wanyama I will give you.

Not sure on the 'probably bullshit deals' don't think it's worth debating about your unecessary negative speculation, do you?

Ironically Levy is famed for doing what you said, buying low and selling high and has been doing that for years much to the frustrations of Spurs fans but since his alleged 'bad business' is in the minority he suddenly isn't able to negotiate transfers...okay.

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Levy did negotiate a good deal for Wanyama but he didn't want to go to Belgium. Can't say I blame him.

When our fans going to realise Enic only care about selling this club.
They've won the lottery at this club, we have lost our best midfielder because they didn’t pay him his worth.
Kane is the Hoddle of this generation and it took the club ten years to produce another wprod class player until number 23 turn up and left, because of Teflon.

mkkid said:

The club history is build on winning cups, our most famous song is about going to Wembley to win a cup.
Spurs have won, one trophy is 20 years that is absolute failure.. unless you count net spend champions of Europe,you’ll never sing that.
i Don’t care about training grounds , the stadium or Enic property portfolio and concerts and it now looks like , Kane thinks the same too!

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Its been asked before, and rarely anyone who brings up the cup winning failures answers the question.

We have been to countless semi-finals and enough finals in that time and lost, often to teams no better than ours.

How on earth is that ENIC's fault? How are they to blame for not winning last years CL trophy yet not given praise for getting you there in the first place?

We have 100% definitely, without question had good enough teams to win competitions over the last 20 years. Worse teams than ours have. So please explain how losing semi-finals to Portsmouth, Chelsea, Man U etc, when we were more than capable of winning those games and had already beaten those same teams in the same seasons, explain how those are ENIC's fault.

They have certainly made errors in the past and will continue to do so I'm sure. But I personally believe we, as the 2nd to 5th best team in the entire country for the last however many seasons were given good enough tools by ENIC to win something.

Japhet said:

Levy did negotiate a good deal for Wanyama but he didn't want to go to Belgium. Can't say I blame him.

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I got stuck in Brussels a few years ago, having missed the last Eurostar back to London. Man, that place suuuuucked.

To be fair, it was midnight on a weeknight....

@mkkid - you’ve made a lot of categorical statements, and I’d ask how you know all these things to be true.

It started fairly innocuously when you said our most ‘famous’ song is ‘Spurs are on their way to Wembley’. Have you actually measured that to prove it’s true?

Then things start to turn a little more serious:

You say that Kane, like you, doesn’t care about stadiums, training grounds, etc. Again I’d ask, you know this how? Have you actually spoken to him about that?

Then you state that only you among the millions of fans we have can see that ENIC’s objective is only to sell the club. Is it possible, just possible, that perhaps that isn’t their objective and maybe, just maybe, they have other plans in mind?

I offer all this up just to say that preconceptions are not facts. What one believes doesn’t necessarily equate to the truth and your rage over them is likewise misplaced.

Let’s say hypothetically that ENIC’s only objective IS to sell the club. So what? Why does this make you angry? You rail against the way ENIC has run the club and yet you’re furious about the possibility that they should want to hand it over to someone else. Which outcome do you want - ENIC to stay or ENIC to leave?

There are 92 clubs in the English League. Can you point to a single club that has grown from being a mid table side to being on the cusp of taking a seat at the very top table of football without the use of a sugar daddy?

And this isn’t about your marvellously witty use of the term, ‘net spend trophy’. You cannot guarantee anything. Look at Man City and PSG. Their disgusting owners have ploughed billions into their teams (combined) and have precisely zero European trophies to show for it.

You, along with a couple of others, seem to operate on the assumption that big spending guarantees trophies. It doesn’t. It may increase the chances of it, but doesn’t guarantee it.

But the new stadium that you rail against can assist in delivering some more spending on players, but you feel that doing that is somehow against the best interests of the club and the fans.

Let me posit an analogy: if you were a race car driver and you consistently failed to win anything because your engine simply isn’t powerful enough - what do you do: replace the tires, the windscreen or the brakes? Worse, do you scream and shout at your mechanic because you lost a race in an underpowered car? No, you replace the engine. Money is the engine in today’s football and ENIC have increased the power of our engine. Up till now, the chances of winning races was slim. Now it’s better, but there’s still no guarantee of winning anything.