Olivier Giroud

WiganSpur · Jan 30, 2020

spursfan77 said:
Ornstein has just posted this:

Further to Charlie Eccleshare’s post and related to Simon Johnson’s, my understanding is that Tottenham’s desire to sign a striker before the window closes is now unlikely to materialise - unless they can secure a deal for Olivier Giroud. And with that there is a problem because I’m told that, despite mixed messages on this in recent weeks, Chelsea will not let Giroud go without securing a replacement. If the Blues do get somebody in, things could get tasty because it is suggested to me that they would not block Giroud from joining Spurs. Giroud would seriously consider all options - including Tottenham - provided he gets the move he has been craving for the past few months, since it has become clear that he is not part of manager Frank Lampard’s plans at Stamford Bridge.

Regardless of what other business we've done, if we don't get a decent striker in then that will have to go down as a categorical failure on Levy's part, an absolute disgrace to sell Mourinho short like this when it is clear he sees a number 9 as important

pedrodelawasp · Jan 30, 2020

Chelsea are reportedly in for Dries Mertens, with the fee said to be around £5mil.

I know he’s the wrong side of 30 too, and has more often than not played as a winger, or even at RWB for Belgium* but he did have a really good season as striker for Napoli in 16/17. He was second highest scorer in Serie A that season, just behind Dzeko.

Not exactly a “target man” but more running in him than Giroud...

*Edit: I’m probably actually thinking of Meunier playing RWB for Belgium.

The Scarecrow · Jan 30, 2020

Caco said:
Probably been mentioned already, but I'm not reading back to check. So we're essentially waiting to see if Chelsea buy Merthens which will make Giroud a cast off for them. Mad thought, why don't we just buy Merthens, similar age so won't cost a packet and you can't argue with his goal scoring record.

Mertens has been in poor form this season, and is very much the opposite of what we need up front anyway.

fortworthspur · Jan 30, 2020

people hate him because he's a gooner but Giroud would be an excellent stop-gap striker for us.

daryl hannah · Jan 30, 2020

OFFS (again)

Spurrific · Jan 30, 2020

Looks like he’s going Lazio. Thank god. Now those of you who were on board with signing the utter **** can try and reclaim some of your dignity you let go so easily by renouncing his name.

strader · Jan 30, 2020

Spurrific said:
Looks like he’s going Lazio. Thank god. Now those of you who were on board with signing the utter **** can try and reclaim some of your dignity you let go so easily by renouncing his name.

Why?

Not that it matters as I don't believe we will get a striker this window (hope I am wrong).

OG, has a point to prove with the euros this summer. A target man with premiership experience, better option than we currently have.
From what I can see, it's only going to be positive.

He has no history of been disruptive considering he is not getting a game.

He fills the gap temporarily as we have nothing up front currently. Just don't get it!!! It's all opinion/onions!! You have yours so good riddance.

dbspurs · Jan 30, 2020

Just seen on BBC that Adebayor is available after leaving Kayserispor last month. Wonder if he's still any good??

dagraham · Jan 30, 2020

spursfan77 said:
Ornstein has just posted this:

Further to Charlie Eccleshare’s post and related to Simon Johnson’s, my understanding is that Tottenham’s desire to sign a striker before the window closes is now unlikely to materialise - unless they can secure a deal for Olivier Giroud. And with that there is a problem because I’m told that, despite mixed messages on this in recent weeks, Chelsea will not let Giroud go without securing a replacement. If the Blues do get somebody in, things could get tasty because it is suggested to me that they would not block Giroud from joining Spurs. Giroud would seriously consider all options - including Tottenham - provided he gets the move he has been craving for the past few months, since it has become clear that he is not part of manager Frank Lampard’s plans at Stamford Bridge.

As much as I hate to say it, this really illustrates the difference between a club that wins things and us.

They have 3 CF’s and won’t let one of them go without a replacement and yet we’re happy to operate with 1..... and now content to have 0.

SDogg · Jan 30, 2020

dbspurs said:
Just seen on BBC that Adebayor is available after leaving Kayserispor last month. Wonder if he's still any good??

Did you not see him at palace ?

spursfan77 · Jan 30, 2020

pedrodelawasp said:
Chelsea are reportedly in for Dries Mertens, with the fee said to be around £5mil.

I know he’s the wrong side of 30 too, and has more often than not played as a winger, or even at RWB for Belgium* but he did have a really good season as striker for Napoli in 16/17. He was second highest scorer in Serie A that season, just behind Dzeko.

Not exactly a “target man” but more running in him than Giroud...

*Edit: I’m probably actually thinking of Meunier playing RWB for Belgium.

Sounds like its miles off from being anywhere near done though. Chelsea are just stringing us along. Other teams, maybe even man u will be in for him too and they'd rather he went there than to us I suspect.

C0YS · Jan 30, 2020

Spurrific said:
Looks like he’s going Lazio. Thank god. Now those of you who were on board with signing the utter **** can try and reclaim some of your dignity you let go so easily by renouncing his name.

I get that he played for Arsenal, which means you have been trained to hate him. But truth is he would be a great signing. Proven goalscorer who plays well with his back to goal. Works hard and for the team.

carpediem991 · Jan 30, 2020

Spurrific said:
Looks like he’s going Lazio. Thank god. Now those of you who were on board with signing the utter **** can try and reclaim some of your dignity you let go so easily by renouncing his name.

I think our chances to get top 4 or a decent cup run would improve quite a lot with a good hold up player who knows where the goal is. I would rather have him as the #9 than a lost Lucas Moura who trys to get a flick on Tobys long balls and is otherwise rather lost.

So I couldn't care less where he played before because I care most of my team. And how sweet could a Giroud winner against Scum or Chavs be?

But as Chelsea will surely not sell to us its no real #9 instead.

Spurrific · Jan 30, 2020

C0YS said:
I get that he played for Arsenal, which means you have been trained to hate him. But truth is he would be a great signing. Proven goalscorer who plays well with his back to goal. Works hard and for the team.

I've debated against him enough since yesterday, and the locals here are so desperate for a signing they'll turn on their own (me) in-favour of that pouting ponce. He doesn't work hard, he's slow, his hold-up play has deteriorated and he doesn't score much anymore - as I pointed out yesterday, he has a goal every 500 minutes-ish in the league for Chelsea. I was fine when we signed Gallas, but this would've been a swing and a miss - I know way too many Arsenal fans who were delighted to get rid of him to think otherwise.

If we signed him, I'd get behind him (online) but if we don't sign him I don't think we're missing out. With Bergwijn in, I'm assuming we're going to struggle on with Son up top.

carpediem991 · Jan 30, 2020

Spurrific said:
I've debated against him enough since yesterday, and the locals here are so desperate for a signing they'll turn on their own (me) in-favour of that pouting ponce. He doesn't work hard, he's slow, his hold-up play has deteriorated and he doesn't score much anymore - as I pointed out yesterday, he has a goal every 500 minutes-ish in the league for Chelsea. I was fine when we signed Gallas, but this would've been a swing and a miss - I know way too many Arsenal fans who were delighted to get rid of him to think otherwise.

If we signed him, I'd get behind him (online) but if we don't sign him I don't think we're missing out. With Bergwijn in, I'm assuming we're going to struggle on with Son up top.

Why do you point out only his goal scoring record in the league? He scored loads in the Europa League, he still scores and contributes for France. I think he is perfct as an alternative to Kane and as a stop gap until Parrott is ready.
His goal scoring record at the World Cup was shit too, still he was an important piece for them to win as a collective.

Spurrific · Jan 30, 2020

carpediem991 said:
Why do you point out only his goal scoring record in the league? He scored loads in the Europa League, he still scores and contributes for France. I think he is perfct as an alternative to Kane and as a stop gap until Parrott is ready.
His goal scoring record at the World Cup was shit too, still he was an important piece for them to win as a collective.

The teams he has scored against in the Europa League and for France are utter dog shit - aside from Arsenal. We're already not scoring enough, signing a striker that can't really score anymore doesn't help us just because he's new. Anyway, it's the last I'll say on this - I'm against the idea, loads seemingly want him in - we'll never agree. Nothing anybody has said about him has even remotely moved me from my original position, which I'm sure is the same for the Pro-Giroud guys.

carpediem991 · Jan 30, 2020

Spurrific said:
The teams he has scored against in the Europa League and for France are utter dog shit - aside from Arsenal. We're already not scoring enough, signing a striker that can't really score anymore doesn't help us just because he's new. Anyway, it's the last I'll say on this - I'm against the idea, loads seemingly want him in - we'll never agree. Nothing anybody has said about him has even remotely moved me from my original position, which I'm sure is the same for the Pro-Giroud guys.

Last thing I have to add to this topic: I have seen our squad struggling time and time again to score against "utter dog shit"-teams.

Spurrific · Jan 30, 2020

carpediem991 said:
Last thing I have to add to this topic: I have seen our squad struggling time and time again to score against "utter dog shit"-teams.

Okay, one more thing from me too - essentially playing with a bean-pole up front isn't going to change that. If anything it'll just lead to more long-ball bullshit and playing against the strengths of basically our entire squad except Toby. We weren't creating chances with Kane fit - we're not going to suddenly create chances for Giroud to put off-target because we've got him up top. imo

spursfan77 · Jan 30, 2020

C0YS said:
I get that he played for Arsenal, which means you have been trained to hate him. But truth is he would be a great signing. Proven goalscorer who plays well with his back to goal. Works hard and for the team.

In 2017. That was 3 years ago. Sure I’d take him now rather than nobody but I think he’d be swapping our bench for Chelsea’s.

FinnYid · Jan 30, 2020

Hope we have more options, reckon Chelsea might block the move at this point.

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