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Bruno Fernandes at Manchester United

May 17, 2018
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Part of me thinks BF is going to be another Pepe, if someone buys him. Feels like a lot of PR punting him around at a price he doesn't necessarily justify.
 

JCRD

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LOL we’re not gonna buy a 60m player to be squad player. We’re not Man City.

if we pay that it is with a view to being in the first 11.

I know everyone gets a hard-on for BF but if you think logically he isn’t getting into the first 11. Especially as Jose seems to love Alli.

Werent we in for both BF and GLC in the summer? Now that CE has gone - why would that change? I dont know and dont care if we are in for him personally but just asking the question.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Part of me thinks BF is going to be another Pepe, if someone buys him. Feels like a lot of PR punting him around at a price he doesn't necessarily justify.
Firstly, Pepe is showing signs that he will be a decent player, always takes time for new players from different leagues etc especially coming into a team very off form who have changed managers.
Secondly, I really don't think Bruno Fernandes is being over-hyped, i think he is absolutely quality, he has pretty much everything you'd want in a top top top class midfielder and whoever ends up getting him will have one hell of a player on their hands, unfortunately I don't think it will be us but if there is any chance it could be and we can make it work then we absolutely should.
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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Just to put things in context, Davinson Sanchez is 23 years old.

We signed Toby aged 26. We signed Jan aged 25. Liverpool signed Van Dijk aged 27.

Defenders tend to peak later because experience is a key factor in their development. Sanchez clearly has flaws with ball control, distribution and sometimes catching the flight of the ball, but his strengths are likely to improve with time and he may improve on his weaknesses too. I think Spurs are probably quite happy with their purchase of him.


Agreed but the £40m we spent on him wasn't for plans to have him as a squad player, more a potential long term mainstay which is the point I was making to the previous poster
 

doctor stefan Freud

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This ship has sailed. Buying Bergwijn suggests a move to a 433 with quick wide forwards and Mourinho has indicated a preference for physical players. GLC and Tanguy will be our creative outlets so I can’t see another creative in this squad
 

SpursSince1980

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Part of me thinks BF is going to be another Pepe, if someone buys him. Feels like a lot of PR punting him around at a price he doesn't necessarily justify.
Get the feeling this kid is an absolute baller. Will be a pity to miss out on him, but understandable given the enormous asking price. Just a bit outta our range.
 

Johnny J

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This ship has sailed. Buying Bergwijn suggests a move to a 433 with quick wide forwards and Mourinho has indicated a preference for physical players. GLC and Tanguy will be our creative outlets so I can’t see another creative in this squad
I agree to an extent but BF absolutely is physical. He's not massive like Sissoko, but he gets stuck in like GLC, and has a fabulous workrate.
 
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Get the feeling this kid is an absolute baller. Will be a pity to miss out on him, but understandable given the enormous asking price. Just a bit outta our range.

Could also argue that he's played in a few leagues now, including Serie A, and hasn't been on the radar. I recall Nani looked decent when he went back to Sporting, so I have my reservations
 

bombarda

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I recall Nani looked decent when he went back to Sporting, so I have my reservations
He sort of did, but not in the same way as Fernandes does. What Nani showed back here was that he’d learnt about winning on the big stage. He was always in the right place. His touch and general ability wasn’t a latch on Bruno though.

It’s half time here, and he’s been fine. Wendel has actually been dominating though, for the first time in about a year.
 

Darren2142

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This ship has sailed. Buying Bergwijn suggests a move to a 433 with quick wide forwards and Mourinho has indicated a preference for physical players. GLC and Tanguy will be our creative outlets so I can’t see another creative in this squad
Jose has pretty much tried to play with pace out wide in a 4231 up until the injuries tbf, I don't believe he's had a set formation at his last few teams also
 

VegasII

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Just play Toby and Japhet in defense; they are the only ones doing anything, it seems. New rule that first to 5 goals wins.

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JUSTINSIGNAL

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Werent we in for both BF and GLC in the summer? Now that CE has gone - why would that change? I dont know and dont care if we are in for him personally but just asking the question.

There was talk that Fernandes interest was just a way for Levy to get Betis to lower the price for Lo Celso. As they needed the money after buying Fekir to replace him.

Besides, different manager now so that will change priorities.
 

spursfan77

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Part of me thinks BF is going to be another Pepe, if someone buys him. Feels like a lot of PR punting him around at a price he doesn't necessarily justify.

He seems to score a lot of his goals from outside the box. It seems to be his main attacking attribute.

Guess what stat is going down year on year more than any other in the PL, thats right, goals scored from outside the box.

He will get even less time to line up shots in England than he did in Portugal too.

This is one reason why I'm sceptical how useful he will be in England, plus being mid 20s how much is he going to want to change his game.
 

bombarda

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He sort of did, but not in the same way as Fernandes does. What Nani showed back here was that he’d learnt about winning on the big stage. He was always in the right place. His touch and general ability wasn’t a latch on Bruno though.

It’s half time here, and he’s been fine. Wendel has actually been dominating though, for the first time in about a year.
He almost scored a stunner in the second half.
It was also his quick thinking which a Toby-esque long cross field pass that set up the cross for the winning goal. All in all, probably man of the match in the end I'd say.
 

cider spurs

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Personally I'd sell Alli lol. This guy's all round game is far better, and he looks like he can control a football properly rather than slowing the game down every other time he gets it.

Not specifically aimed at your good self, more the fact that selling Alli has been mentioned by a few. (y)


Better than a goal or assist every two games in the whole of his premier league career. 23 years old, prem proven.

What the feck is it I'm missing...or is it me.

Fernandes looks good, but feck me, that league is gash. I've watched plenty last couple of seasons, it's gash.

I'll agree that Fernandes has a great range of passing and is industrious, but whilst all are entitled to opinions, and rightly so, I stand by my opinion that Alli has been, and still is a very good player for Spurs.

If we were to sell him, I reckon he'd be easily north of £60 million.

Ask yourself why. ?
 

BringBack_leGin

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Not specifically aimed at your good self, more the fact that selling Alli has been mentioned by a few. (y)


Better than a goal or assist every two games in the whole of his premier league career. 23 years old, prem proven.

What the feck is it I'm missing...or is it me.

Fernandes looks good, but feck me, that league is gash. I've watched plenty last couple of seasons, it's gash.

I'll agree that Fernandes has a great range of passing and is industrious, but whilst all are entitled to opinions, and rightly so, I stand by my opinion that Alli has been, and still is a very good player for Spurs.

If we were to sell him, I reckon he'd be easily north of £60 million.

Ask yourself why. ?
Superb post.

Even during this season, where he's been so heavily criticised by our fans, having been injured and in a side that is hardly flowing, he's clocked up 7 goals (our best after Harry) and 3 assists in 16 starts and one off the bench. In fact, aside from last season he's bettered a goal/assist every two matches every single season he's been with us. I just feel that he's being unfairly benchmarked against a superb 16/17 season (where, shock horror, we were at our very best in living memory, topping every metric, finishing second, not losing at home, top scorers in the league, best defensive record, our record PL points total) and his still considerable output is ignored. Last season (injury hit) was a poor one for Dele but it was for basically every player in League terms, the CL run was an anomaly as we have since discovered.
 

cider spurs

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Superb post.

Even during this season, where he's been so heavily criticised by our fans, having been injured and in a side that is hardly flowing, he's clocked up 7 goals (our best after Harry) and 3 assists in 16 starts and one off the bench. In fact, aside from last season he's bettered a goal/assist every two matches every single season he's been with us. I just feel that he's being unfairly benchmarked against a superb 16/17 season (where, shock horror, we were at our very best in living memory, topping every metric, finishing second, not losing at home, top scorers in the league, best defensive record, our record PL points total) and his still considerable output is ignored. Last season (injury hit) was a poor one for Dele but it was for basically every player in League terms, the CL run was an anomaly as we have since discovered.


Winnered...and not because you agree with me, but more the fact that you can see, and appreciate what he has done in a Spurs shirt thus far. (y)
 
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