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ToDarrenIsToDo

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I get the injuries argument.

Piatek might well be just what we need, but I believe we need Lamela more at the moment. His presence in the squad is influential.

Where does Lamela rank in your players ranked 1-25 at the club?

Kane - 1
Son - 2
Lo Celso - 3 etc

Does Lamela make your top 11-15? If not we simply need to be open to moving him on to make space for one who can break into that top 11-15 at the club. Keep the churn going in a positive manner etc.
 

Spurrific

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Where does Lamela rank in your players ranked 1-25 at the club?

Kane - 1
Son - 2
Lo Celso - 3 etc

Does Lamela make your top 11-15? If not we simply need to be open to moving him on to make space for one who can break into that top 11-15 at the club. Keep the churn going in a positive manner etc.

He’s almost always in the first eleven when fit - think that might answer your question? There’s a reason the cry-babies sulk so much about him and not the equally injury-prone Davies - and that’s because we actually miss Lamela when he’s out and he brings something nobody else in the squad has - though Lo Celso seems to have that same spark too.
 

Gbspurs

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Lamela stays.

You can’t ask for a better squad player. Doesn’t moan, and always gives 1000% every time he comes on.

You could ask for one who scores or provides assists and stays fit for more than 50% of the season.
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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He’s almost always in the first eleven when fit - think that might answer your question? There’s a reason the cry-babies sulk so much about him and not the equally injury-prone Davies - and that’s because we actually miss Lamela when he’s out and he brings something nobody else in the squad has - though Lo Celso seems to have that same spark too.

When we have a fully fit squad he ain't in the first XI mate, come on behave.
 

GetSpurredOn

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I think it’s nailed on we get someone, we look too toothless when Kane is out. Mourinho has been very clear a striker is required, he’s made the press very aware. If the club fails to provide one, Mourinho will not be towing the party line.
Levy cannot afford to be seen to let his new manager down. This is just posturing whilst Levy tries to deliver the best deal for Spurs financially, albeit again misunderstanding the impact it has had on the footballing side as we’ve limped through games with a misfiring frontline.
Friday, either Levy will get Milan to agree to a loan, or he’ll go back with a lowball offer and end up saving a minor win for his ego, he’ll get binned of by Milan for taking the proverbial, and end up going cap in hand to Sociedad for Plan B forward. Either way, we’ll get a striker.

However, there is always the one additional scenario, where he gets Bergwijn, and markets him to the fans as a forward (loosely termed).
 

arunspurs

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Lamela stays.

You can’t ask for a better squad player. Doesn’t moan, and always gives 1000% every time he comes on.


I agree 100% on him being a great squad player.
But, is that all he is now ?

For me, he is a 100% great squad player in 50% of the season played. Also, with him in his 7th season at club and having played 200+ games, its fair to say that he has reached his potential. Or atleast there is not much upside here on in.

Question we should be asking is, is that enough ? For me, we can do better than him - there are players out there who can be available 100% of time and also give it all. Bergwijn if/when we sign, will be most likely will spell the end of Lamela. Bergwijn if signed has a good half season, I would happily ship Lamela out in summer. We can get some good money for his age & reinvest in players like Eze.
 

Spurrific

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When we have a fully fit squad he ain't in the first XI mate, come on behave.

But he has mostly started when he’s fit - which is what I said? That’s not really debatable, it’s just the fact of his time here - regardless of what his little weird hate club (not yourself) think.

There are fair complaints about his fitness, though obviously not his fault - but talent-wise - he is comfortably in the upper echelons of the squad. Poch loved him and as soon as he’s become fit for selection Mourinho has thrown him straight in too.

Certain posters suggesting that we would gain from swapping an effective squad member for a striker who could easily flop is just odd and the reason I’m glad most people on here can live out their misguided fantasies on shit like FM.
 
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ToDarrenIsToDo

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But he has mostly started when he’s fit - which is what I said? That’s not really debatable, it’s just the fact of his time here - regardless of what his little weird hate club (not yourself) think.

There are fair complaints about his fitness, though obviously not his fault - but talent-wise - he is comfortably in the upper echelons of the squad. Poch loved him and as soon as he’s become fit for selection Mourinho has thrown him straight in too.

I see what you're saying but I think Lamela doesn't sufficiently add enough when called upon. For me Lucas is squad quality levels for a team consistently making the top four in recent years and making a Champions League final and that's where we need to have our levels go up as a squad.

Lamela did most of his damage playing for us when we were in the Europa League. My issue with the squad is we had an excellent first XI, able backup XI and as the first XI got older we tried to replace them with so so squad players we previously had etc. Rose for Davies, Walker for Trippier, Dembele for Winks. We have improved that quality in the form of Ndombele, Lo Celso etc but the lateness of our activity doing so means we now play catch-up. Piatek is a smart move and if given the chance to swap with Lamela so we have more money we can use in the summer, I'm saying adiós to Lamela mate. Got to be ruthless if you want to be great.
 

Ronwol196061

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Lamela,Moura,Dele etc dont create enough chances. They are very sporadically ok. No great substance when relating them to the Liverpool 3
 

The Opinionated Lurker

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I see what you're saying but I think Lamela doesn't sufficiently add enough when called upon. For me Lucas is squad quality levels for a team consistently making the top four in recent years and making a Champions League final and that's where we need to have our levels go up as a squad.

Lamela did most of his damage playing for us when we were in the Europa League. My issue with the squad is we had an excellent first XI, able backup XI and as the first XI got older we tried to replace them with so so squad players we previously had etc. Rose for Davies, Walker for Trippier, Dembele for Winks. We have improved that quality in the form of Ndombele, Lo Celso etc but the lateness of our activity doing so means we now play catch-up. Piatek is a smart move and if given the chance to swap with Lamela so we have more money we can use in the summer, I'm saying adiós to Lamela mate. Got to be ruthless if you want to be great.
A simple fact. Lucas will chip in with around 10 goals a season and is regularly available. Lamela is high effort which is commendable but no way does he produce enough goals/assist wise imo, and that’s ignoring injury issues
 

Spurrific

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I see what you're saying but I think Lamela doesn't sufficiently add enough when called upon. For me Lucas is squad quality levels for a team consistently making the top four in recent years and making a Champions League final and that's where we need to have our levels go up as a squad.

Lamela did most of his damage playing for us when we were in the Europa League. My issue with the squad is we had an excellent first XI, able backup XI and as the first XI got older we tried to replace them with so so squad players we previously had etc. Rose for Davies, Walker for Trippier, Dembele for Winks. We have improved that quality in the form of Ndombele, Lo Celso etc but the lateness of our activity doing so means we now play catch-up. Piatek is a smart move and if given the chance to swap with Lamela so we have more money we can use in the summer, I'm saying adiós to Lamela mate. Got to be ruthless if you want to be great.

And I see what you’re saying too - but there is almost nobody in our squad that brings the same urgency as Lamela - and Piatek wouldn’t either. He has traits we’d need replacing if we get rid. I’d be fine selling Lamela, simply because I want him to have a fresh start and hopefully enjoy injury-free spells in a less arduous league.

Now we have Lo Celso, I’m more at ease with it - but Son, Lucas, Dele and even Kane don’t consistently bring the same fire Lamela does - which is why I’d always argue his case.
 

Chirpystheman

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Can't believe there is a debate going on about lamela. Yes he scraps and puts effort in but lets be honest if he played for another prem team and had same output as he has for us for the last 6 years and we were linked with him i doubt anyone would be throwing street parties for it. Also how much would some be willing to spend. The way some are talking in here its like hes a 100m player. The only reason hes still here is because hes an argie and no one would pay the 40-50m levy would prob demand. Good squad player thats it. He wouldnt get in any of the other top 6-7 sides.
 
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