Premier League 2019–?

King of Otters · Jan 19, 2020

ohtottenham! said:
Liverpool deserve absolutely, everything they've achieved. If a club does all the right things to support the vision of a great coach, great things happen! Tottenham?

To go from defeat in the CL final to winning it the next year, and then to finish second in the Prem on record points and to walk the league the next season shows unreal mentality.

As you say, they deserve everything they get.

JCRD · Jan 19, 2020

SUIYHA said:
What will probably be an unpopular opinion on this board:

If Levy had given Poch a blank chequebook in 2017 and brought in all of these rumoured targets from the last couple of years (Grealish, Dybala etc) - we'd have still finished at least 10 points behind Liverpool this season.

To which Levy might therefore say that the decisions to be "pragmatic" with resources has been justified, at least until we drop out of the Champions League. Not that I agree with that, we should be giving it a go at the very least and you never know what can happen in the cups. But it does really make me laugh when people say that we could be where Liverpool are if only we'd kicked on from 2017 and invested into the team. They've been jammy in a lot of games, but you can't argue with the stats. 91 points from a possible 93. Unbeaten in 39 league games and just one defeat in 61 league games. Not lost a league game at Anfield for almost three years, haven't even dropped a point there for a year. Seven successive clean sheets, and just 36 goals conceded since the start of LAST season (we conceded 35 in 2015/16 alone when Toby got into the PFA team of the season and we supposedly had one of the strongest defences in the league).

I just don't see how Pochettino and the 2017 set-up would have kicked on to that level - the bar has very much been raised. We may have won a trophy or two. We may have run them close if we got lucky. But I just don't see that we'd have become this good, not even City have and they've backed their manager with a LOT more than ENIC ever could have even if Levy had just said "let's fucking go for it".

I find them as annoying as any of you - but sometimes you've just gotta put your hands up and say fair enough.

Dude we would have been better

I see where youre coming from but its true what they say, if you stand still in this league, you go backwards. We stood stoll, we fluked last season but this season backwards.

Would we have been as good as Liverscum? who knows but we would have atleast competed... isnt that what Poch always used to say? We dont even compete now, against Liverscum last week, we sat back and hoofed to Lucas fuckin Moura (because we had no one)

VegasII · Jan 19, 2020

SugarRay said:
Keane and Sounness need to be cut some slack. Jose isn’t there anymore to educate and guide them. They’ve been left to their own devices

Like chimps in a kitchen with all the electric goods on.

VegasII · Jan 19, 2020

yojambo said:
It's not commentary it's like boyzone with these two.

VegasII · Jan 19, 2020

13VanDerBale13 said:
Well it looks like United will join us in scrapping for a Striker on deadline day ...

Benteke derby

bubble07 · Jan 19, 2020

Even someone bang average as cenk tosun on loan would have been ok

gavspur · Jan 20, 2020

I can’t stand Liverpool, and like some, I can’t quite figure out how they’ve done what they are doing. All I can say is that we’ve seen first hand, players can’t keep that style of play up for over 3yrs in a row without having very suitable back-up players. Maybe this season will hurt them for the next two seasons? Who knows, but fair play to them at the moment.
As for today, their result has done us a big favour, too 4 very much do able - but we need some investment to help the manager and team out. Without that, we’re basically giving up on CL for next year.

Thewobbler · Jan 20, 2020

They didn't even buy a squad player in the first window. Only that lad in January who may take a bit of time to get going and only cost 8m, so they will have plenty of money to add players next season.

My only hopes are mane, firmino and salah have hopes of playing in Spain and want to leave.

Danny1 · Jan 20, 2020

Yep, fair play to the Liverpool side. Klopp has done an unbelievable job and sets his side up perfectly against all sides. Against the other top sides in the league he gets the goal then basically plays counter attack knowing that other teams will struggle to score against them.

Against the lesser sides he takes the game to them and lets his front 3 loose to score goal after goal after goal. Klopp saw the problems Liverpool had and bought well (Allison, VVD, Fabinho) and also got lucky in a way with Salah and Mane as neither of them looked like the players they have turned into. However, Klopp deserves that luck in this instance.

I dislike Liverpool fans as much as the next person but they really are some side!

luptic · Jan 20, 2020

gavspur said:
I can’t stand Liverpool, and like some, I can’t quite figure out how they’ve done what they are doing. All I can say is that we’ve seen first hand, players can’t keep that style of play up for over 3yrs in a row without having very suitable back-up players. Maybe this season will hurt them for the next two seasons? Who knows, but fair play to them at the moment.
As for today, their result has done us a big favour, too 4 very much do able - but we need some investment to help the manager and team out. Without that, we’re basically giving up on CL for next year.

The AFCON will take care of Liverpool's title challenge next season.

Gassin's finest · Jan 20, 2020

gavspur said:
I can’t stand Liverpool, and like some, I can’t quite figure out how they’ve done what they are doing. All I can say is that we’ve seen first hand, players can’t keep that style of play up for over 3yrs in a row without having very suitable back-up players. Maybe this season will hurt them for the next two seasons? Who knows, but fair play to them at the moment.
As for today, their result has done us a big favour, too 4 very much do able - but we need some investment to help the manager and team out. Without that, we’re basically giving up on CL for next year.

The rest of the league is shit right now.

DiamondLites · Jan 20, 2020

Does anyone else find it suspicious that none of Liverpool’s key players ever seem to get injured?

punkisback · Jan 20, 2020

gavspur said:
I can’t stand Liverpool, and like some, I can’t quite figure out how they’ve done what they are doing. All I can say is that we’ve seen first hand, players can’t keep that style of play up for over 3yrs in a row without having very suitable back-up players. Maybe this season will hurt them for the next two seasons? Who knows, but fair play to them at the moment.
As for today, their result has done us a big favour, too 4 very much do able - but we need some investment to help the manager and team out. Without that, we’re basically giving up on CL for next year.

It's their CM, no lack of class or change of system whoever plays. 6 hardworking athletic players who will run all day and cover for the strikers.

TheChosenOne · Jan 20, 2020

Midweek Football fixtures
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Marty · Jan 20, 2020

As always, a draw and more red cards than goals in the Chavs-Goons game please.

I have previously hoped for a sinkhole to appear that drags the stadium into the abyss but I've given up that hope.

scat1620 · Jan 20, 2020

DiamondLites said:
Does anyone else find it suspicious that none of Liverpool’s key players ever seem to get injured?

Yeah, I reckon they're either pulling off some The Prestige shit with twins and/or clones, or they've got a working Lazarus Pit hidden at their training ground. Whichever one it is, the FA need to get on this, pronto.

ardiles · Jan 20, 2020

Marty said:
As always, a draw and more red cards than goals in the Chavs-Goons game please.

I have previously hoped for a sinkhole to appear that drags the stadium into the abyss but I've given up that hope.

BELIEVE

thecook · Jan 21, 2020

DiamondLites said:
Does anyone else find it suspicious that none of Liverpool’s key players ever seem to get injured?

Suspicious? What you think they might be aliens??
:alien:

JCRD · Jan 21, 2020

Gassin's finest said:
The rest of the league is shit right now.

It is a competetive league from 2nd downwards I agree. However i gues isnt that the point of winnign the league - to be better than everyone else int hat particular season? They pretty much are - i fuckin hate the ****s.

Monkey boy · Jan 21, 2020

VAR having a mare again by the sounds of it. Sheffield keeper saves a penalty but replays clearly show him off his line before the kick was taken. If they can’t get something as simple as that right then honestly what is the point?

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