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dudu

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Jan 28, 2011
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First time doing this but i have a bit downtime today

From the shed end

Here it comes! A month ago I said we really must not underestimate Spurs. I started to get a bit scared after Everton. Now I'm really carefree since we lost again...We got nothing to lose, we can only play better, not worse!

Though make no mistake, this is a huge game still, Jose wants to win this one, Spurs want to win and say that they are for the top 4 and not us.

If we win, nobody will remember Bournemouth and Everton.


We lost to 3 of the worst sides in the league and in all 3 occasions we deserved to lose despite each of them being fairly appalling our defense made them look like Barcelona!

Play like we did in those games and the outcome is crystal clear. Comfortable Spurs win.

No matter how bad our form is, I will never say we will lose to these lot............7-0 Chelsea

Four weeks ago this was a walkover. Now, with us having a prolonged blip and them having the Jose X Factor, we are definitely the underdogs. I have been out and about in Tottenham town last night and they are up for it. Up for it f**king big time.

We seem to be better at the moment when we are not expected to get a result. So despite our recent form I am hopefully that we might surprise a few people next weekend.

I'm curious to see what our reaction to José is going to be like.

I'm guessing polite applause at the beginning, then, with gritted teeth, pretending not to notice him sliding down the touchline on his knees after they beat us 1-0 having had 24% possession.

When we are the underdog (which on this occasion I think we might just be based on recent results) we generally show our worth. Think it will be tight but I am quietly confident we will nick a deserved win. Could even see us conceding first and coming back.

I am not going to knock Sarri as he did pretty well for us last season in the end but this season we have the management who know the rivalry of this fixture and the importance of a win now.


Huge game, not even going to include the Jose factor, I'm sure he will have something to say about us before Sunday. We will be playing a bit safe in this one, Jose ;s team is akwags good at sitting back and counter, not going to give him the luxury. To win this game, we will need to show some determination and bravery, feel this is a 1:0 game, either way.

A funny match this one, we are both competing for fourth spot and both managers know each other well.

Jose has been playing 4 at the back though when he can't score changes to three at the back.

One tactic might be to play with three in midfield and then change to two when Jose goes three at the back (assuming they are not already ahead).


Fancy us getting a result on Sunday! The spotlight will be on Mourinho and the onus will be on Spurs to come out and play. I think we showed at City we can dominate the ball against top teams and create real clear cut chances. Hopefully a partnership of Rudi and Fik will be the answer to that defence and we've looked brilliant away from the bridge this year and I think the boys will go there confident. Fingers crossed on it all coming together for a big derby win at the toilet seat stadium.

Until the squad 'toughens up', a couple of players demonstrate some leadership and crucially we see effective tackling/ fouling, more pass completion accuracy and all round better bloody defending (whether it be with existing keeper & defence or new in Jan/ Summer) I do feel that those on here reckoning we could turn them over this Sunday are being a tad over optimistic. I hope its not an embarrassing score and Frank & Jody make some progress with a full week to prepare. Not slagging off the coaching team, the issues we see now were haunting us a year ago, and don't forget at the height of AC's title winning season Spuds busted the 12 game streak (I was there at the lane- horrible). I personally would settle for a point, keeps them at arms length and would keep CFC in top 4 until Boxing Day round at least; but pls don't get my pessimism wrong I'm up for a surprise away win, we have the players to do it if they show up, just not that confident after the last few games.
 

ClintEastwould

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Jul 3, 2012
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What a bunch of dinosaurs in here. Like any metric, stats are a useful way to analyze a game but should obviously be taken with a grain of salt. If you don't think so then you must not even trust our coching team none of whom have played professional football as far as I know and our assistant coach even went to football tactics school or something like that.
 

longtimespur

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Sep 10, 2014
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What a bunch of dinosaurs in here. Like any metric , stats are a useful way to analyze a game but should obviously be taken with a grain of salt. If you don't think so then you must not even trust our coching team none of whom have played professional football as far as I know and our assistant coach even went to football tactics school or something like that.
We should definitely go back to the old measurements AFAIC:whistle::LOL:
Yards, Feet and Inches. Brexit and returning to the old ways, cheer a lot up on here I'm sure:LOL:






not....................................….:ROFLMAO:
 

Timberwolf

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Jan 17, 2008
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Fucking stat-munchers. Everyone knows the only correct way enjoy football is to scream abuse at your team from the terraces while spilling Bovril and chunks of pie all over your terrified children.
 

mightyspur

Now with lovely smooth balls
Aug 21, 2014
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It's other people thinking they can do better. Bull was happy, he is a legend, he has a statue and a stand named after him. It's only you that is disappointed. Would he have wanted to win a bucket load of trophies? Ofcourse.

Sol campbell won a lot of trophies. Does anyone give a shit about him?
Sol Campbell does.
 

smallsnc

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Mar 30, 2017
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Its another pointless statistic which people have become obsessed with. Assists being another one which doesn't tell the full picture

No statistics by themselves give the full picture (including final score), but when put together statistics are very valuable looking back over a volume of matches to help determine where a team or individual excels and needs to improve. Watching the matches may be more important, but it is funny how one can remember a game very differently based on a small stretch of play than how the overall match was played.
 

TheHoddleWaddle

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Dec 13, 2013
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First time doing this but i have a bit downtime today

From the shed end

Here it comes! A month ago I said we really must not underestimate Spurs. I started to get a bit scared after Everton. Now I'm really carefree since we lost again...We got nothing to lose, we can only play better, not worse!

Though make no mistake, this is a huge game still, Jose wants to win this one, Spurs want to win and say that they are for the top 4 and not us.

If we win, nobody will remember Bournemouth and Everton.


We lost to 3 of the worst sides in the league and in all 3 occasions we deserved to lose despite each of them being fairly appalling our defense made them look like Barcelona!

Play like we did in those games and the outcome is crystal clear. Comfortable Spurs win.

No matter how bad our form is, I will never say we will lose to these lot............7-0 Chelsea

Four weeks ago this was a walkover. Now, with us having a prolonged blip and them having the Jose X Factor, we are definitely the underdogs. I have been out and about in Tottenham town last night and they are up for it. Up for it f**king big time.

We seem to be better at the moment when we are not expected to get a result. So despite our recent form I am hopefully that we might surprise a few people next weekend.

I'm curious to see what our reaction to José is going to be like.

I'm guessing polite applause at the beginning, then, with gritted teeth, pretending not to notice him sliding down the touchline on his knees after they beat us 1-0 having had 24% possession.

When we are the underdog (which on this occasion I think we might just be based on recent results) we generally show our worth. Think it will be tight but I am quietly confident we will nick a deserved win. Could even see us conceding first and coming back.

I am not going to knock Sarri as he did pretty well for us last season in the end but this season we have the management who know the rivalry of this fixture and the importance of a win now.


Huge game, not even going to include the Jose factor, I'm sure he will have something to say about us before Sunday. We will be playing a bit safe in this one, Jose ;s team is akwags good at sitting back and counter, not going to give him the luxury. To win this game, we will need to show some determination and bravery, feel this is a 1:0 game, either way.

A funny match this one, we are both competing for fourth spot and both managers know each other well.

Jose has been playing 4 at the back though when he can't score changes to three at the back.

One tactic might be to play with three in midfield and then change to two when Jose goes three at the back (assuming they are not already ahead).


Fancy us getting a result on Sunday! The spotlight will be on Mourinho and the onus will be on Spurs to come out and play. I think we showed at City we can dominate the ball against top teams and create real clear cut chances. Hopefully a partnership of Rudi and Fik will be the answer to that defence and we've looked brilliant away from the bridge this year and I think the boys will go there confident. Fingers crossed on it all coming together for a big derby win at the toilet seat stadium.

Until the squad 'toughens up', a couple of players demonstrate some leadership and crucially we see effective tackling/ fouling, more pass completion accuracy and all round better bloody defending (whether it be with existing keeper & defence or new in Jan/ Summer) I do feel that those on here reckoning we could turn them over this Sunday are being a tad over optimistic. I hope its not an embarrassing score and Frank & Jody make some progress with a full week to prepare. Not slagging off the coaching team, the issues we see now were haunting us a year ago, and don't forget at the height of AC's title winning season Spuds busted the 12 game streak (I was there at the lane- horrible). I personally would settle for a point, keeps them at arms length and would keep CFC in top 4 until Boxing Day round at least; but pls don't get my pessimism wrong I'm up for a surprise away win, we have the players to do it if they show up, just not that confident after the last few games.
Mostly reasonable. What's going on?
 

Stamford

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Sep 15, 2015
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What is pointless about it?

What is the "full picture" of a football game?

The one you see when you go to a game. I don't think even watching a game on TV tells the full story. Assists doesn't make sense as a stat for me for instance as it doesn't take into account the quality of the assist.
 

spud

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Sep 2, 2003
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First time doing this but i have a bit downtime today

From the shed end

Here it comes! A month ago I said we really must not underestimate Spurs. I started to get a bit scared after Everton. Now I'm really carefree since we lost again...We got nothing to lose, we can only play better, not worse!

Though make no mistake, this is a huge game still, Jose wants to win this one, Spurs want to win and say that they are for the top 4 and not us.

If we win, nobody will remember Bournemouth and Everton.


We lost to 3 of the worst sides in the league and in all 3 occasions we deserved to lose despite each of them being fairly appalling our defense made them look like Barcelona!

Play like we did in those games and the outcome is crystal clear. Comfortable Spurs win.

No matter how bad our form is, I will never say we will lose to these lot............7-0 Chelsea

Four weeks ago this was a walkover. Now, with us having a prolonged blip and them having the Jose X Factor, we are definitely the underdogs. I have been out and about in Tottenham town last night and they are up for it. Up for it f**king big time.

We seem to be better at the moment when we are not expected to get a result. So despite our recent form I am hopefully that we might surprise a few people next weekend.

I'm curious to see what our reaction to José is going to be like.

I'm guessing polite applause at the beginning, then, with gritted teeth, pretending not to notice him sliding down the touchline on his knees after they beat us 1-0 having had 24% possession.

When we are the underdog (which on this occasion I think we might just be based on recent results) we generally show our worth. Think it will be tight but I am quietly confident we will nick a deserved win. Could even see us conceding first and coming back.

I am not going to knock Sarri as he did pretty well for us last season in the end but this season we have the management who know the rivalry of this fixture and the importance of a win now.


Huge game, not even going to include the Jose factor, I'm sure he will have something to say about us before Sunday. We will be playing a bit safe in this one, Jose ;s team is akwags good at sitting back and counter, not going to give him the luxury. To win this game, we will need to show some determination and bravery, feel this is a 1:0 game, either way.

A funny match this one, we are both competing for fourth spot and both managers know each other well.

Jose has been playing 4 at the back though when he can't score changes to three at the back.

One tactic might be to play with three in midfield and then change to two when Jose goes three at the back (assuming they are not already ahead).


Fancy us getting a result on Sunday! The spotlight will be on Mourinho and the onus will be on Spurs to come out and play. I think we showed at City we can dominate the ball against top teams and create real clear cut chances. Hopefully a partnership of Rudi and Fik will be the answer to that defence and we've looked brilliant away from the bridge this year and I think the boys will go there confident. Fingers crossed on it all coming together for a big derby win at the toilet seat stadium.

Until the squad 'toughens up', a couple of players demonstrate some leadership and crucially we see effective tackling/ fouling, more pass completion accuracy and all round better bloody defending (whether it be with existing keeper & defence or new in Jan/ Summer) I do feel that those on here reckoning we could turn them over this Sunday are being a tad over optimistic. I hope its not an embarrassing score and Frank & Jody make some progress with a full week to prepare. Not slagging off the coaching team, the issues we see now were haunting us a year ago, and don't forget at the height of AC's title winning season Spuds busted the 12 game streak (I was there at the lane- horrible). I personally would settle for a point, keeps them at arms length and would keep CFC in top 4 until Boxing Day round at least; but pls don't get my pessimism wrong I'm up for a surprise away win, we have the players to do it if they show up, just not that confident after the last few games.
Thanks for posting this dudu and for trying to get the thread back on track. It's a shame that the pointless and irrelevant crap about stats has returned and that those who want to discuss it prefer to waste everybody else's time rather than take it elsewhere.
 

TheHoddleWaddle

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Dec 13, 2013
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Thanks for posting this dudu and for trying to get the thread back on track. It's a shame that the pointless and irrelevant crap about stats has returned and that those who want to discuss it prefer to waste everybody else's time rather than take it elsewhere.
80% agree with you.
 

Havre

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The one you see when you go to a game. I don't think even watching a game on TV tells the full story. Assists doesn't make sense as a stat for me for instance as it doesn't take into account the quality of the assist.

That is assuming you can see and understand everything that happens on the pitch.

I am not and I doubt anyone is arguing that xG or any other stat can completely replace watching games from the stands, but it might be able to supplement the experience?

I have been to games for then to watch them on TV later. The experience is often quite different. During a game the adrenaline is pumping etc. that might "distort" your experience. So even if you clearly generally understand things better from a good seat in the stadium it isn´t always the case.
 

dudu

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Jan 28, 2011
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Thanks for posting this dudu and for trying to get the thread back on track. It's a shame that the pointless and irrelevant crap about stats has returned and that those who want to discuss it prefer to waste everybody else's time rather than take it elsewhere.

I was part of that discussion originally, easy to do but yeah, wanted to do my part to get it back on track!
 

Frozen_Waffles

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Jan 26, 2005
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SA is a good manager imo - not that different in his approach to a lot of top managers, but it goes to show how differently you can be perceived when you don't go from top team to top team.

For example, Benitez is given a free pass for playing uninspiring mid-to-lower table football for several seasons at Newcastle (and still gets linked to top jobs); Steve Bruce (so say a terrible manager) is doing just as well right now tbh. Hodgson got an average Fulham to the Europa final and is doing above expectations at Palace, but none of the older english 'dinosaurs' will get the same opportunities as those who've had a good pop at the CL.

Arsenal need, imo, one of them with the experience they have to correct the team.

Yes but Benítez won the Spanish league with Valencia, he won the cl with Liverpool and the uefa cup with Chelsea.

Comparing him to Bruce is a bit weird. He should be in for the top jobs.
 
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