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Race For The Drop

Everlasting Seconds

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Do you remember when people used to do those annoying league tables if they were based on the calendar year, where we would come top

January 2019
1 Jan Cardiff A - Win
13 Jan Man Utd H - Loss
20 Jan Fulham A - Win
30 Jan Watford H - Win

February 2019
2 Feb Newcastle H - Win
10 Feb Leicester H - Win
22 Feb Burnley A - Loss
29 Feb Chelsea A - Loss

March 2019
2 Mar Arsenal H - Draw
9 Mar Southampton A - Loss
31 Mar Liverpool A - Loss

April 2019
3 Apr Crystal Palace H - Win
13 Apr Huddersfield A - Win
20 Apr A.F.C. Man City A - Loss
23 Apr Brighton H - Win
27 Apr West Ham H - Loss

May 2019
4 May Bournemouth A - Loss
12 May Everton H - Draw

26 Points

August 2020
10 Aug Villa H- Win
17 Aug Man City A - Draw
25 Aug Newcastle H - Loss

September 2019
1 Sep Arsenal H - Draw
14 Sep Palace A - Win
21 Sep Leicester A - Loss
28 Sep Southampton H - Win

October 2019
5 Oct Brighton A - Loss
19 Oct Watford H - Draw
27 Oct Liverpool A - Loss

November 2019
3 Sep Everton A - Draw
9 Sep Sheff Utd H - Draw

14 points

Total so far 2019 - 40points

I know you meant it as a joke but from the 30 league games so far this season, we have got 40 points, so we have the quality to avoid the drop. If we carry this form on to next season we should look at around a 51 point finish.

Which btw would have us around 11th place
Rated this optimistic because 15 of 40 points were won in January and half of February, so there’s little to suggest that we’d be carrying over to next year as good of an ability as you are suggesting. The long term form we are in presently in is a point a game.
Come to think of it, all this started with Mike Dean and that match vs. Burnley in February. Our season wasn’t too bad up until then.
 

WiganSpur

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We’ve got 25 points from our last 25 games.

We’re getting worse.

We need at least 26 points from our next 26 games.

Realistic thread.

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Absolutely the reason why this needs to be a thread. The complacency is astonishing. We're not talking about 5 or 10 games, we're talking about 25.
 

buttons

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I was thinking about this today, I don’t think we’ll go down but I really wouldn’t fancy this current squad in a relegation battle. We’re so weak, we wouldn’t have the stomach for it. Mildly terrifying.
 

Dirtysanchez6

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All i see is excuses for our results, you can forget about 2019 but what about this season ? 3 wins from 12 ... theres no hiding from the position we are in, thats the reality we face & the sooner we all realise the better
Correct but some people like to be deluded and ignore the facts and form because poch and do no wrong
 

whitesocks

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I remember a few years back when we were hovering around the drop. You have to look at the players and weigh up which ones have the character and that will to win when everything just feels lost.
Back then it was Keane - you could rely on him. A team with him in was too good to go down.

I look now and for a team that was in the CL final, I'm struggling to find quality players with that fight in them. Of course when you are chasing top 4, everyone is confident and has that desire. Fighting relegation is different and a real test of players and manager,

But I think it is Son. He is far too good to be in a relegated team. He would conjure up that goal in a 6 pointer.
No-one say Kane please - he looks like he's given up already. I don't care what he does in his free time with England - he has been poor this last year.
Anyway, as long as Son stays fit, I think we'll be OK.
 

Shadydan

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I remember a few years back when we were hovering around the drop. You have to look at the players and weigh up which ones have the character and that will to win when everything just feels lost.
Back then it was Keane - you could rely on him. A team with him in was too good to go down.

I look now and for a team that was in the CL final, I'm struggling to find quality players with that fight in them. Of course when you are chasing top 4, everyone is confident and has that desire. Fighting relegation is different and a real test of players and manager,

But I think it is Son. He is far too good to be in a relegated team. He would conjure up that goal in a 6 pointer.
No-one say Kane please - he looks like he's given up already. I don't care what he does in his free time with England - he has been poor this last year.
Anyway, as long as Son stays fit, I think we'll be OK.

You are absolutely mental
 

Sandros Shiny Head

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End of the summer window we were talking about going back in for Dybala in Jan now we've got to start looking at character players for a relegation scrap and people think the manager should still be here. Only Spurs
 

whitesocks

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You are absolutely mental
I think you are absolutely projecting. But that's OK.

Deny it all you want but there are plenty of examples of sides in europe one year and relegated shortly after.
The year we did go down, I think we had been in europe fairly recently.
I didn't think we'd go down then as we had John Duncan who scored for fun. Then he got injured...
 

Shadydan

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I think you are absolutely projecting. But that's OK.

Deny it all you want but there are plenty of examples of sides in europe one year and relegated shortly after.
The year we did go down, I think we had been in europe fairly recently.
I didn't think we'd go down then as we had John Duncan who scored for fun. Then he got injured...

I'm on about you dismissing Kane as a player with fight not about the thought os us being relegated which is pretty mental in itself.
 

shoggy33

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Rated this optimistic because 15 of 40 points were won in January and half of February, so there’s little to suggest that we’d be carrying over to next year as good of an ability as you are suggesting. The long term form we are in presently in is a point a game.
Come to think of it, all this started with Mike Dean and that match vs. Burnley in February. Our season wasn’t too bad up until then.

We weren't even playing well up until that point, we were just scraping wins in fairly even games, basically the opposite of what's happening now. We only played genuinely well in a handful of games last season. We are currently one of the worst teams in the league, regardless of the quality we have. Poch hasn't become a bad manager overnight, but it's pretty obvious he can't get these players performing anymore, so unless we replace basically the entire squad he simply has to go!
 

guy

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Rated this optimistic because 15 of 40 points were won in January and half of February, so there’s little to suggest that we’d be carrying over to next year as good of an ability as you are suggesting. The long term form we are in presently in is a point a game.
Come to think of it, all this started with Mike Dean and that match vs. Burnley in February. Our season wasn’t too bad up until then.
Luckily for us, it looks like 38 points will be plenty to survive this season!
 

AnotherSpursFan

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This is not a joke and i am not trying to be funny but i think it now needs to be taken very seriously. As people have mentioned in other threads, our form in 2019 is worrying, 25 points out of a possible 75 is something we can't ignore.

Anyway, the magic mark to avoid the drop is usually 40 points. We currently sit on 14 points. So we need to get a further 26 points from the next 26 games (possible 78 points).

Here are the remaining fixtures and my prediction based on our recent form:

Sat 23 Nov West Ham United A - Loss
Sat 30 Nov A.F.C. Bournemouth H - Draw

December 2019

Tue 3 Dec Manchester United A - Loss
Sat 7 Dec Burnley H - Draw
Sat 14 Dec Wolverhampton Wanderers A - Loss
Sat 21 Dec Chelsea H - Loss
Thu 26 Dec Brighton and Hove Albion H - Win

Sat 28 Dec Norwich City A -Loss

January 2020
Wed 1 Jan Southampton A - Draw
Sat 11 Jan Liverpool H - Loss
Sat 18 Jan Watford A - draw
Wed 22 Jan Norwich City H - win

February 2020
Sat 1 Feb Manchester City H - loss
Sat 8 Feb Aston Villa A - matches to be played 8 or 15 February - draw
Sat 22 Feb Chelsea A - loss
Sat 29 Feb Wolverhampton Wanderers H - draw

March 2020

Sat 7 Mar Burnley A - loss
Sat 14 Mar Manchester United H - draw
Sat 21 Mar West Ham United H - draw


April 2020
Sat 4 Apr Sheffield United A - loss
Sat 11 Apr Everton H - win
Sat 18 Apr A.F.C. Bournemouth A - draw
Sat 25 Apr Arsenal H - win

May 2020
Sat 2 May Newcastle United A - draw
Sat 9 May Leicester City H - draw
Sun 17 May Crystal Palace A - loss

Based on the above 26 games - i see us winning 4 games, drawing 11 and losing 11. Thats 23 points which takes us to 37 points in total. I'm not sure 37 will be enough. In the past when we have been close to getting relegated, we have brought back former strikers half way through the season to help us avoid the drop, not sure who that could be this time around.

People cant handle the truth when its spoken
 

homer hotspur

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We weren't even playing well up until that point, we were just scraping wins in fairly even games, basically the opposite of what's happening now. We only played genuinely well in a handful of games last season. We are currently one of the worst teams in the league, regardless of the quality we have. Poch hasn't become a bad manager overnight, but it's pretty obvious he can't get these players performing anymore, so unless we replace basically the entire squad he simply has to go!
I agree with the comments about the entirety of last season's form but I am still hanging onto the hope that Poch can at least turn things around sufficiently to give us a half decent season because I don't see changing manager( and entire backroom team) mid season is going to be very satisfactory and we certainly won't have the choice of candidates available to take over.
 

degoose

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This thread is just laughable. Near enough the same squad as the last couple of years but suddenly most of them don't have a fight, most of them are not good enough etc etc. The quality and class is being shown in many parts of every match just not consistently. It will get there but just because we will most likely not get in the top four does not mean we will be relegated and Poch also deserves a break and a chance to fix the rot.
 
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