jurgen11
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and some prefer that to lifting the other cup - beggars belief
Poch: In or Out? - You CAN change your vote
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spursfan77
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I cant find where he's said this?
Probably just missed it, if it was in the last couple of months, but I don't think he's said it in the last 24 hours unless I'm very much mistaken.
Shadydan
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Someone with access to his Tweets confirmed it recently I believe.
dagraham
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I wonder what the tipping point will be? I suppose the club will look at the table and think despite how shit we are we are still 3 points from 5th.
Sadly I think top four is beyond us even if a new manager came in now.
Not that I think it’s acceptable just to write off the season and finish in the bottom half, but I suspect the club may be ok with it as long as bums are still on seats in the stadium.
The 1960s apart, it's felt like the best decade since the 1930s. Premier League position has steadily improved in the last decade. European football, through Europa League and European Champions League, has been regained pretty much every season. ECL domination by Liverpool, Manchester United, Chelsea and Arsenal season after season, got seriously challenged and has been broken. We got over that long run of managers of short duration which had made Spurs a joke among football followers, and have had managers, coaches and players who seem steadily to have built on the efforts of each other, achieving by now not just an outstanding leader at football level but a partnership on the business level that together have advanced the club and enhanced its standing in national, European and world football.
It wouldn't have occurred to me to declare baldly, as I have done above, just how much has been achieved by Spurs owners, players, manager and coaching staff in this past decade. But I've noticed this factoid of 'worst decade since the 1930s' trotted out several times in the past few weeks and I doubt I've been the only Spurs supporter sick of hearing it because it's always part of the carping that a certain type go in for.
McFlash
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Yeah, I agree. Both teams were poor.
My post was in response to one stating that he'd rather we lost in the manner of not turning up, whereas I'd prefer to lose having gone all out.
Something like that, anyway.
danielneeds
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He’s likely to play a second string side in Munich as we’ll 99% be qualified unless Olympiacos thrash us and Red Star beat Bayern.
Ghost Hardware
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I just looked over his recent tweets/replies from the last few days and couldn't see anything saying explicitly that he's still being fully backed by the board. Unless I missed something.
beats1
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For me this decade has been good, im just talking about the decade from a trophy point of view. However, this decade has always felt like we were going to be Newcastle and Arsenal(post invincibles), we will look back at the players we had thinking how did we do so poorly. For example, I loved the Harry era but even then I knew having a team made of Gallas, King, Kaboul, Palacios(pre brother death), Modric, Lennon(pre-hamstring), Bale, VDV and Adebayor, yet not win one trophy is insane.
I felt the same about Poch after the Leicester season, people said he was building something bigger like Fergie but that comparison shouldn't be made
You know what I disagree slightly about us being a joke, we have shown constant signs of improvement
Ever since Jol, we have been going up constantly
Under Jol, we qualified for Europe narrowly missing out on top 4
Under Ramos, we had a manager who we had finally got over the hoodoo of beating Arsenal, Chelsea and not to mention finally won a trophy under
Under Harry, we finally made the top 4 and went on a European adventure
Under AVB, we got a record points total and had a superstar on our books
Under Tim Sherwood, we brought through youngster who would change the club forever like Kane, Rose, Bentaleb and etc.
Under Poch, we developed a young core cemented our position as a top club
However when it comes to trophies, I actually think despite the finals under Poch, I have never been confident in Poch doing well in that regard
Colonel Dax
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I heard the first grumblings of discontent on Saturday from the prawn sandwich brigade in the east stand. A few empty seats too.
Perhaps Levy will act when champagne sales plummet? ?
Perhaps Levy will act when champagne sales plummet? ?
We are in such a bad state. Players have completely downed tools. No motivation in the side. No one has any clue what is happening behind the scenes. Everyone is radio silent. If Poch is staying then come out and back him. If he isnt, then sack him. But we are in a state of flux at the moment and it feels like there's no way out.
Colonel Dax
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On a serious note, (and I've mentioned this before) I do wonder how long people will stay patient if results and performances continue to disappoint. Fans have paid a small fortune for season tickets in that stadium so it's not good enough to simply tread water (or worse) and write this season off. I'm not a vociferous Poch outer, but something needs to change as the atmosphere is going to get very toxic soon if results don't improve.
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guiltyparty
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Couldnt disagree more. The lacklustre lack of a performance on the night couldn’t have been more “Spursy” for want of a better word. Our opposition doesn’t turn up so we gift them the game anyway. As we often seem to do. I’d rather it had been a classic and we’d been edged, would have been a game to look back on.
Instead what we got which was basically a winners procession for them after a minute in. Didn’t even get to enjoy the final once. If that’s what we’re going to do in the final makes me wonder what the point of getting to one is.
guiltyparty
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We can laugh about it but seriously, I’ll put my hand up on this one: I went to my first game at the new stadium finally this season, after being brassic for ages, paid £130 for two tickets to the Newcastle game, possibly the harshest comedown to an exciting day I’ve ever had.
Yeah the stadium is great, it was cool meeting up with mates from around the stadium in the goal line bar, incredible songs, watching England win the cricket in communal excitement before we went in, etc. But once the game started it was the same old shit - atmosphere was awful, team were dreadful - and sorry it’s not worth £200 for two hours of your time including drink, food and travel, let alone the moaning and heartache all the way home.
Football is truly terrible value for money now. I don’t know how you level that off really, given we’ve been playing that way for a year and it shows no sign of changing. We’re just boring to watch, so why would you pay to watch it? I’ve not been back though and it’s not hard to get tickets now
Colonel Dax
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Agree with you. Most expensive football match tickets in the world, supposedly, but the product is currently sub-standard. Eventually quite a few fans will simply stop going.
slartibartfast
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Ooohhh No, dont say that. You'll get pelters. I did. Its not just about how much you sell for you know (bullshit). The player has to want to go (well its go or train with the fkin kids mate). There may not be any clubs come in for them (really???) and there are lots of other connotations to take into account as well (not).
I like you am from the school of money talks and bullshit walks and if some of our fans think that we couldnt shift Eriksen, Toby and Vertoghen for any reason other than we didnt want to then they're kidding themselves. They are/were top draw players. Clubs would love to have them so if they wanted out but are still here its because we didnt make them appealing in the window. Its like saying I couldnt sell my Ferrari because nobody wanted it. You over priced it or you didnt want to sell it.
ohh Teddy Teddy
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I remember all the excuses about raising the season ticket prices about the facilities not being comparable....well the performances on the pitch are not comparable either!
guiltyparty
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Quite. Ultimately all that stuff is great but it’s an add on. There’s pretty much still no reason to go to Tottenham aside from to watch Spurs, so it’s good to have a load of cool things to eat and drink when you do. But you’re there because of the football, you’re not there to hangout and maybe catch a game on the off chance. The changing shape of football has made that impossible. So for everything else to work, Spurs need to continue to be good and challenging. It’s not Chelsea or Finsbury Park
Ossie85
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4 bad months in 5 years, and in a year we reached the CL final.
Unbelievable to see so many people wanting him to go.
We've been progressing every year since he was appointed. A couple of bad months won't change that. He can have a bad season.
He stayed when Real Madrid wanted him and some of you want to repay that faith letting him go after a couple of bad months.
Unbelievable to see so many people wanting him to go.
We've been progressing every year since he was appointed. A couple of bad months won't change that. He can have a bad season.
He stayed when Real Madrid wanted him and some of you want to repay that faith letting him go after a couple of bad months.
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Hercules
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I personally don’t want him rid. I will back him totally. But as I said earlier; if we only achieve 1 point in our next 2 games, then sorry he goes. Nobody more than me want him to succeed. On a tactical front he is seriously lacking. It is not just Trippier who felt that. Read between the lines of his comments. Quite a few of the present players are miffed at his tactics.
