How much of it can we keep together?

tiger666 said:

Oh you're on about sponsorship, I thought you meant sales. That's £10m difference. Can't see it making much impact.

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Graysonti said:

Our income this year will be in the ball park of Liverpool and Arsenal.

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Graysonti said:

£120m plays £58m (£62m) and they have been flat and we have added £56m so becomes even.

That’s without all the other little ones taken on since.

Add in our tickets sales will prob go above the £16m difference above and you can see that we are ball park on turnover although agree they might be slightly above.

All the above excludes CL which we will enjoy in next results and they won’t.

Level in current.

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McArchibald said:

We've got to be more ambitious than that. We should fight tooth and nail to keep our star players on board - especially since it's hard for us to buy replacements

Take the Kyle Walker sale for instance. By no means our most important player last season, but still a catastrophic mistake in my opinion - in spite of the quality of his replacements Sanchez and (potentially) Aurier. It sends out all the wrong signals to the rest of the squad, the competition, the media, potential recruits etc.

I shudder to think what selling Alli or Eriksen would do...

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tiger666 said:

Oh you're on about sponsorship, I thought you meant sales. That's £10m difference. Can't see it making much impact.

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Everlasting Seconds said:

Per June 2016 (not THAT long ago), Arsenal revenue 350M, Liverpool revenue 300M, Tottenham revenue 210M.
Sll of the sudden, we are supposed to have arrived at that level only 16-17 months later? We might, with some level of probability, overtake Liverpool in the not-so-distant future. But there is a very high jump to go from matching Liverpool's revenue to matching Arsenal's revenue.

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Graysonti said:

That covers to June 2016 and season 15/16.

Since then we have had 16/17 and 17/18 and massive increases in attendances, CL and sponsorships.

I’m talking 17/18. Published accounts are historical statements ffs.

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tiger666 said:

We're going on facts, you're speculating. Nothing factual has been released to back up your claims that we have similar revenue to Liverpool and Arsenal, bar two sponsorship deals. You may well be right but I fail to see how you can claim it with any certainty.

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ComfortablyNumb said:

This is what worries me. Toby said himself that 'if we don't have our intensity, then we are ordinary'. We're an effort team, albeit one with some very talented players. But if all that Poch can coach is effort, then we will continue to fall short. At the beginning of the last two seasons I've said that what I wants to see from Poch is some evidence that he can coach a team so that it becomes more than the sum of it's parts. I still don't see much evidence of that. Our finishing position in the table for the last two seasons made that less of a problem for me, but the issue is still there. Other teams, right down to the bottom of the table, have clear tactics in a game, things that they have clearly worked on in training. I see so little of this in our game.

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jondy1 said:

Very astute post you could see what was going on two years ago, great post?

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lukespurs7 said:

Ok so I’m getting a little concerned that some of the players heads may be being turned which may be influencing the way we are playing.

I also think they’ve put in a mammouth effort over the last 2 years and start of this year and seeing us so far off the pace this year + their good old pal Walker earning 3x what they earn and more than likely picking up at least one trophy playing the best football in the league must be frustrating. It must also be infuriating for Poch who is probably getting mentally drained by the 24/7 rumours of players leaving us but the sad fact is as we pay lower wages and haven’t won anything of note in 25+ years, unless we get very close or get to finals or start buying in some big name players, our players heads will be turned.

Lloris: Huge Poch advocate and ambassador for our club as captain etc but he is 30 now and surely could move to a Real Madrid or PSG and win something and I wouldn’t blame the guy in the slightest.

Dier: Man.U very interested in him, would be paid more, they are in title race and won 3 trophies last year.

Toby: could go to any top club in the world.

Rose: See Dier + Rose is a prick for that outburst earlier this year.

Alli: Madrid May want him + probably others and I think he’d chase the money and lifestyle.

Eriksen: Barca - more money,Camp Nou, play with Messi etc

Kane: hopefully would be the last one to go but he is 24, if by end of next season, when he’ll be 26 I think, if we’ve still not won anything it looked any closer to, I think he will seriously consider moving to a Real Madrid etc.

Poch: Could move to Real Madrid, PSG and said in his book teams who want to win it all wanted him. How long will he put up with squeezing every last drop out of this squad getting us to overachieve but knowing we more than likely just won’t win anything.

I know it’s only a league cup but I’m just so so disappointed we went out of that this season because we all know that with the Wembley factor this year would be really tough in the league and I just think for all the teams hard work just winning a small trophy together would kick start them, that feeling of having the winners medal and trophy would push them forward. As it is I think we will get knocked out in one of next 2 rounds of the CL, if we can’t beat Burnley, Swansea, West Brom, Leicester we will struggle over 2 legs vs some of the best teams in Europe. And then there is the fa cup which we’ve not got to a final in for 25+ years.

There is so much positive with Spurs and what Poch has done and I’m sure this current form is just a blip and hopefully we can turn it round and end up top 4 at least but I just really start to think it could all unravel and for me the team looks tired, lacking confidence and lacking effort most worryingly and I wonder if there is something going on behind the scenes, Poch doesn’t seem himself either. On one hand the direction the club is going etc is so so positive but on the other hand when it’s not going so well on the pitch all the depressing off the pitch stuff smacks you in the face and the reality of the situation is that we are in a tougher fragile position with our squad and manager and I don’t trust Levy to manage that 100%, Poch yes, Levy no, he’s a great businessman but not a football man.

What do people think about the players above and Poch and the whole team, how likely is it if we say finish 6th and trophyless that this whole team will give it at least one more year in the new stadium(if it’s even ready by next year)...

COYS

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coys200 said:

Sometimes things can go stale after 3 or 4 years especially without having won anything for all your hard work. Can be nobody’s fault really just the way it is. When this happens you have 2 choices the players or the manager. I’d be inclined to take some of the crazy money for some of the players and get a few fresh faces in. It’s interesting if I was given a choice between losing Kane or Poch I’d probably be more worried to lose kane.

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AnotherSpursFan said:

Hold on tight, we `ll win the Champs League, all will be well

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wrd said:

Glad this thread has been rejuvenated because the other 40 just were not cutting it

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ComfortablyNumb said:

Hmm, that wasn’t my intention. I pulled through this quote into the Poch thread to point out that these are not recent, knee-jerk observations. I didn’t realise (or think about it clearly) that it would bump this thread. Sorry.

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wrd said:

haha you didn't tbf you pulled your quote into the Poch thread as I saw it earlier and somebody posted their response here instead. Plus I was just having some lighthearted fun

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ComfortablyNumb said:

Hmm, that wasn’t my intention. I pulled through this quote into the Poch thread to point out that these are not recent, knee-jerk observations. I didn’t realise (or think about it clearly) that it would bump this thread. Sorry.

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