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Player Watch: Kieran Trippier

Shadydan

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I don't know how he got caught unless the person he told put big money on the bet but this goes on all the time, I know for a fact and it's normally agents who cash in on it.
 

fortworthspur

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so wait, you arent allowed to discuss a possible transfer with family and close friends? If you are I dont see how you are responsible forwhat tey do with tha information.
 

Saoirse

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It doesn't make much sense. Trippier's wealth must be in the tens of millions by now. If he had any idea that a family member was going to bet on the transfer, he'd surely much rather just give them even £100k rather than risk them getting caught. It's either an idiot in his close circle doing it behind his back, him telling people whom he shouldn't have done, or a case of monumental greed.
 

dontcallme

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so wait, you arent allowed to discuss a possible transfer with family and close friends? If you are I dont see how you are responsible forwhat tey do with tha information.
Seems very murky water to me.

Surely to be charged they need strong proof that he was giving this info with knowledge that bets would be placed.

Tapping up rules are much stronger now but it seems to me that a player mentioning to a friend that he has interest in him from a Spanish club shouldn't be a punishable offence.
 

dagraham

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Maybe it’s just me, but unless he’s been advertising it to all and sundry I don’t see the problem.

So the bookies got a bit of bloody nose for once due to some inside knowledge. It’s hardly a betting ring or has any wide ranging influence on matches.
 

dontcallme

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Maybe it’s just me, but unless he’s been advertising it to all and sundry I don’t see the problem.

So the bookies got a bit of bloody nose for once due to some inside knowledge. It’s hardly a betting ring or has any wide ranging influence on matches.
Agree. Also thinking about it the bookies themselves shouldn't be a factor. If they lose money then they can go fuck themselves. If they want to give the chance for people to bet on things like transfers and next managers then they should be aware that some people might have inside info.

Surely players should be punished for gambling offences where their actions affect the results. It's highly unlikely Trippier chose to go to Spain to make his mates some money.
 

teedee

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Seems very murky water to me.

Surely to be charged they need strong proof that he was giving this info with knowledge that bets would be placed.

Tapping up rules are much stronger now but it seems to me that a player mentioning to a friend that he has interest in him from a Spanish club shouldn't be a punishable offence.

I agree with you, but I think the FA or an independent commission will ignore this and just make a presumption of guilt. This seems to be the way the wind blows at this moment in time.
 

Wheeler Dealer

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The Bookies are at fault for taking transfer bets.. It's absolute banker for someone who has any inside infromation, and the Bookies know this so why do they get all arsey when this type of situation raises its head..
 

dontcallme

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The Bookies are at fault for taking transfer bets.. It's absolute banker for someone who has any inside infromation, and the Bookies know this so why do they get all arsey when this type of situation raises its head..
No idea if it still goes on but in the past you could place bets on WWE results and once an Eastenders whodunnit.

So a transfer or new manager shouldn't be an issue and the betting company's own fault.

#freekierantrippier
 

Chirpystheman

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You really are the king of posting stuff without any context whatsoever aren't you!

For those as confused as i was-

Apologies i just saw the breaking news headline that stated hed broken betting rules with more to follow. Assumed he had actually been the one betting. Still broke the rules all the same. Must be more than telling his other half hes moving to Madrid for him to he charged
 

Trotter

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Oh so nothing wrong then. Surprised hes being charged. Maybe you dont understand how insider trading works then.


Of course I know how insider trading works, I have been in banking/finance my whole professional career.

So he just packs his bags one day and tells his family, bye I am going to Spain, you can join me if you want, or do you think he should be allowed to speak to his wife or parents for example before making a decision ?
 
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Trotter

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Apologies i just saw the breaking news headline that stated hed broken betting rules with more to follow. Assumed he had actually been the one betting. Still broke the rules all the same. Must be more than telling his other half hes moving to Madrid for him to he charged

Not necessarily, Daniel Sturridge was charged for talking to his brother about his.
It is the rule that needs adjusting, or even outlawing betting on transfers
 

dontcallme

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Apologies i just saw the breaking news headline that stated hed broken betting rules with more to follow. Assumed he had actually been the one betting. Still broke the rules all the same. Must be more than telling his other half hes moving to Madrid for him to he charged
From the FA statement, here are the rules he broke:

Rule E8(1)(a): a participant shall not bet, either directly or indirectly, or instruct, permit, cause or enable any person to bet on – (i) the result, progress, conduct or any other aspect of, or occurrence in or in connection with, a football match or competition; or (ii) any other matter concerning or related to football anywhere in the world, including, for example and without limitation, the transfer of players, employment of managers, team selection or disciplinary matters

Rule E8(1)(b): where a participant provides to any other person any information relating to football which the participant has obtained by virtue of his or her position within the game and which is not publicly available at that time, the participant shall be in breach of this Rule where any of that information is used by that other person for, or in relation to, betting



So it seems simply him telling a friend or partner that he's likely to make a transfer is enough for him to be charged if they place a bet on it.

Seems a harsh rule, would love to hear the outcome and thought process behind it.
 

dontcallme

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It’s really not the same as insider trading though, is it?
It's not, but the modern debating tactics include parallels that aren't parallels.

Judging by the FA statement it appears Trippier has broken a rule by discussing his transfer with someone who then put a bet on it.

Will need to wait for the outcome to truly judge the situation though.
 

wakefieldyid

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Of course I know how insider trading works, I have been in banking/finance my whole career.

So he just packs his bags one day and tells his family, bye I am going to Spain, you can join me if you want, or do you think he should be allowed to speak to his wife or parents for example before making a decision ?
It's not like he had a quiet chat with his family at the dinner table. He's alleged to have posted the info on a Whatsapp group. As soon as he did that, he lost control of the process and and breached his duty of confidentiality.
 

Wheeler Dealer

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No idea if it still goes on but in the past you could place bets on WWE results and once an Eastenders whodunnit.

So a transfer or new manager shouldn't be an issue and the betting company's own fault.

#freekierantrippier
No.. They should not accept bets on events where someone knows the result before this is confirmed. This can apply to any industry. The bookies set themselves up to fail by doing this. Some thick footballer tips off his mates that he's off to Madrid and maybe it's worth a little flutter.
 

Chirpystheman

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No.. They should not accept bets on events where someone knows the result before this is confirmed. This can apply to any industry. The bookies set themselves up to fail by doing this. Some thick footballer tips off his mates that he's off to Madrid and maybe it's worth a little flutter.

They accept bets but it is capped at like £5 its a novelty bet thats all. They do it with the sole purpose of obtaining new business.
 
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