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#ENICOUT trending on Twitter if that means anything. I think we may hear a few chants or see a few banners at the utd game or games soon after if our poor form continues. Fans furious on Twitter like I’ve not seen before.
It beggars belief how Levy gets such little venom in here and in general. He didn’t build a stadium. He didn’t design a stadium. He helped to find the funds for the stadium. He didn’t even deliver it on time. He did however fail to invest in two transfer windows believing the squad was sustainable as it was.
Honestly I've had enough of this argument. He's been I charge for our longest period without trophies, he hires and fires the managers and buys the players.
When do you start questioning the man at the top? Genuine question.
Because eventually the buck has to stop with him.
Get what you’re saying but to say we only need 3-4 players is why you’re getting optimistic ratings as we need about 8-9!I keep getting "optimistic" ratings on my "total rebuild" comment, but Id say those that think we are going to sell 8 or 9 players and get a total rebuild are being more optimistic. So a more useful exercise is which 3 or 4 would you move on and what 3 or 4 positions would you upgrade?
better get them out soon before the season is suspended.#ENICOUT trending on Twitter if that means anything. I think we may hear a few chants or see a few banners at the utd game or games soon after if our poor form continues. Fans furious on Twitter like I’ve not seen before.
we need 8 or 9 to be as good as Madrid or Barca or Bayern but not to compete for a CL spot.Get what you’re saying but to say we only need 3-4 players is why you’re getting optimistic ratings as we need about 8-9!
for 3-4 I’d prioritise :
RB, LB, CM, ST
Well, tell me what money we had to spare over that time? or the annual figures would have shown them nicking the income instead of putting it towards the stadium. they paid 450m off of the stadium and other than 1 season at Wembley when we were getting cracking crowds week in week out when at home which resulted in record profits ONCE. in the 36k stadium for 9 years 1 with only 28k how the fuck do we make profits of more than 45m per season?
Lighty do you ever stop talking your horseshit excuses? You ramble on like you have something personal to gain in your noble defence of ENIC, I've long stopped arguing with you about any of your nonsense as I realized it was futile. Do yourself a favor mate and give over, ENIC couldn't give a fuck about you either, just the size of your wallet...
Vote Trump 2020 (joke btw lighty)
sorry only just caught up properly and didn't read all before answering the 1st time (something I do to often)
can you tell me in the rest of our history when there have been owners that have had owners like Chelsea and Man C that made it so much harder to compete. there are 3 challenges if not in Europe or 4 with. Abramovic has helped buy 16 of them, City owners have bought 11, Man U dominated the league at a time to get all those funds 14, Liverpool haven't been as dominant until now 7, Arsenal have won 8. the few other winners are either in lower leagues now and just got the luck to get them to the finals to win.
We'll never know what really happened that summer, I like most have a theory, but I do think Poch has to take some blame, if he can't get his first choice he has to have a viable alternative, but again we've seen what Levy's alternatives are and they usually go out on loan a couple of times before being sold.
Ultimately making 1car work is easier than not having any.
what risk? whose money should he have risked?We competed with Poch for the title for 2 seasons, we should have taken a risk the season after Leciester won the league, the summer of 17 we got Sissoko, Janssen, N'koudou and Wanyama.
Wanyama was immense, Sissoko while a beast last year, honestly is a squad player at best. If my memory is correct Sissoko and Janssen were taken as alternatives to first choices. That was the summer where Levy should have taken the risk.
Well, tell me what money we had to spare over that time? or the annual figures would have shown them nicking the income instead of putting it towards the stadium. they paid 450m off of the stadium and other than 1 season at Wembley when we were getting cracking crowds week in week out when at home which resulted in record profits ONCE. in the 36k stadium for 9 years 1 with only 28k how the fuck do we make profits of more than 45m per season?
Before I start I must admit I’ve always liked Levy and I’ve admired your enthusiasm for defending him.
I’m now at the point where even I am struggling to defend him. You are correct in what you say, we did pay off huge chucks of the stadium. But did we need such a grand stadium and project? I think us as fan would have been happy with a less fancy stadium and more investment into the playing squad.
So who benefits the most from the fancy multi-purpose stadium? Is it really the fans, or the investment company pushing for it? When all’s said and done, how much will these events actually benefit a football club? The investment company has very little to risk but stand to gain a hell of a lot of money.
I’m growing tired of this “wait and see” attitude and I’ve been telling people that for years. At what point will we start acting like a football club and show some real ambition and leadership to go out and actually want to win something, instead of hiding behind excuses.
Levy did an unbelievable job in dragging us against all the odds from mid-table obscurity to establish ourselves as one of the "big six" and stay there for over a decade, against all the odds, whilst managing a budget carefully and moving us into a stadium that will increase our financial muscle every season from now on.
Levy has made some very short-sighted / negligent decisions that have resulted in us failing to capitalise on this position that has now resulted in us going backwards.
I don't know why some of you find this so difficult, but both of these statements are true. Just as the last two or three seasons do not change the fact that Levy/ENIC grew the club to a level most wouldn't have thought possible without an oil billionaire investing into it, likewise the fact that we've improved so much since the 90s do not excuse the mistakes of the last couple of windows where we've gone from talking about Dybala and Fernandes to this pile of crap.
Overall Levy has been overwhelming positive for the club. And I do hope he can sort things out in the summer. But it just feels like too many mistakes have been made in the past couple of years and I think it's going to take some time before we can get back to where we were. Maybe the stadium becomes the failsafe in a world of FFP that allows us to do it. But we're going to have to buy much smarter this summer than we have done since at least the 2015 summer window which is coming up to five years ago now - that's hard to see.
Only last season we beat Real Madrid... or season before that. So the fact we now need 8-9 players to get back to that is a disgrace in terms of squad management.we need 8 or 9 to be as good as Madrid or Barca or Bayern but not to compete for a CL spot.
Before I start I must admit I’ve always liked Levy and I’ve admired your enthusiasm for defending him.
I’m now at the point where even I am struggling to defend him. You are correct in what you say, we did pay off huge chucks of the stadium. But did we need such a grand stadium and project? I think us as fan would have been happy with a less fancy stadium and more investment into the playing squad.
So who benefits the most from the fancy multi-purpose stadium? Is it really the fans, or the investment company pushing for it? When all’s said and done, how much will these events actually benefit a football club? The investment company has very little to risk but stand to gain a hell of a lot of money.
I’m growing tired of this “wait and see” attitude and I’ve been telling people that for years. At what point will we start acting like a football club and show some real ambition and leadership to go out and actually want to win something, instead of hiding behind excuses.
and coclhester beat us. do you honestly believe colchester has the same quality across the board just because they beat us?Only last season we beat Real Madrid... or season before that. So the fact we now need 8-9 players to get back to that is a disgrace in terms of squad management.