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Jamturk · Mar 10, 2020

fortworthspur · Mar 10, 2020

Dillspur said:
I disagree, no one can turn a dressing room sour as quickly as Jose can, if the wheels start coming off early and players like Son and Kane start kicking up a fuss, he'll be gone.

He never walks, he wants the pay off.

then Levy will have to write him a check for 30 million.

Joely · Mar 10, 2020

Dillspur said:
Jose is going to want more and more in the summer, I don't see Levy giving him what he wants and I can see this ending much sooner than many originally thought.

Been saying this for a long time...deep down, think a lot of people know how it'll end and unfortunately there's always been an air of inevitability about it.

fishhhandaricecake · Mar 10, 2020

Lighty64 said:
because Levy never played in any of the matches we lost

Grealish wasn't for Sale in the summer he was always going to stay at Villa once promoted

anyway you've another 9k+ post to disagree with now as you didn't like those red crosses, and I thought you was a grown up

It’s his fault that we got to this point because the way he’s set up the football side of the club isn’t and hasn’t ever been good enough. Over and over and over it happens. Under redknapp we are 3rd chasing down the leaders and need a CB&Striker and we end up with Saha & Nelson. We sell Berbatov and replace with Fraiser Campbell, Then Fast forward and under Poch it’s rinse and repeat, the club for one reason or another have failed to replace many many top players such as Lloris, Walker, rose, Toby, jan, Wanyama, dembele, Eriksen, Llorente etc etc and now we are a mess. You say it’s not Levy’s fault but he recruits people who recruit the players and he is 1/3 of our transfer committee.

Its not about not buying a striker this Jan its about squad management and forward planning and we’ve fucked up big time. Jose is yet another bad decision from Leby on the football side.

”and I thought you was a grown up“ nice English.

Perhaps you might like to answer my well made points rather than reply with sarcastic pointless statements such as “because Levy never played in any of the matches we lost”, says a lot. The chairman who is 1/3 of the transfer committee and hires the manager and decides on the transfer budget and policy and has ultimate sign off on trying to purchase a player, are you saying he has no influence on our results or more importantly our squad management and failure to capitalise on opportunities when we needed just a bit more clever investment to get us over the line?

Lighty64 · Mar 10, 2020

fishhhandaricecake said:
Ok @Lighty64 so which parts are you disagreeing with?
Do you think Levy has a clue about football and football strategy? Please god tell me you don’t think that?
Do you not also think if Levy has actually just stumped up the cash we’d have got Grealish?
Do you not think going into the season with no back up striker was not negligence? What exactly is there here that you disagree with or are you just neg repping my perfectly valid pots again for no reason?

I answered the reasons and your still continuing to give crap ratings :ROFLMAO:

kannanmothalali · Mar 10, 2020

cjbyid said:
Yep needs to go. Did unbelievable work on the stadium front no denying that.

But on the football side of things he has let us the fans & previous managers/current one down massively and he won't change. He shouldn't be anywhere near the football side of the club.

Oh wow is he in the Guniess book of world records for being the first Chairman to build a fucking stadium ?

H-SF · Mar 10, 2020

If Levy does offer Jose a shoestring budget this summer then he needs to fuck off, and I have supported the bloke. If he views UCL as imperative to the business model he needs to back him even if it’s somewhat of a financial gamble and give us a good chance of getting back into the qualification places next season. If he doesn’t, we’ll be out the UCL for a lot longer than 1 year.

fishhhandaricecake · Mar 10, 2020

kannanmothalali said:
Oh wow is he in the Guniess book of world records for being the first Chairman to build a fucking stadium ?

That properly made me lol.

bubble07 · Mar 10, 2020

I still cant get the image of Jose Mourinho and Steve hitchin going to Levy's office presenting him with a list of players

jonnyh · Mar 10, 2020

Didn’t Levy want Van Gaal the summer we hired Poch and it was only after he took the Netherlands to the World Cup semis that Unitrd came in for him and so we turned to Poch instead? Arguably our best manager in the last 30 years was our second choice and not the big name Levy wanted at the time. Unfortunately it looks like Levy this time went with the big established name in Mourinho when again we should’ve been looking at a young, progressive manager who could build on what Poch had done.

FinnYid · Mar 10, 2020

Lighty64 said:
because Levy never played in any of the matches we lost

Neither did Christian Gross. So are you saying we should have stuck with him?

VoteMe4Prez · Mar 10, 2020

H-SF said:
If Levy does offer Jose a shoestring budget this summer then he needs to fuck off, and I have supported the bloke. If he views UCL as imperative to the business model he needs to back him even if it’s somewhat of a financial gamble and give us a good chance of getting back into the qualification places next season. If he doesn’t, we’ll be out the UCL for a lot longer than 1 year.

If he screws us this summer with the purse strings then yeah he and ENIC whatever have to go. Enough is enough. I appreciate the stadium and financial power but what use is a kitted out garage for a clapped out old banger. We are going backwards alarmingly fast.

mrlilywhite · Mar 10, 2020

bubble07 said:
I still cant get the image of Jose Mourinho and Steve hitchin going to Levy's office presenting him with a list of players

via Imgflip Meme Generator

Lighty64 · Mar 10, 2020

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FinnYid said:
Neither did Christian Gross. So are you saying we should have stuck with him?

no he only had a tube ticket, should of has an Oyster Card with the money he was on

Lighty64 · Mar 10, 2020

fishhhandaricecake said:
It’s his fault that we got to this point because the way he’s set up the football side of the club isn’t and hasn’t ever been good enough. Over and over and over it happens. Under redknapp we are 3rd chasing down the leaders and need a CB&Striker and we end up with Saha & Nelson. We sell Berbatov and replace with Fraiser Campbell, Then Fast forward and under Poch it’s rinse and repeat, the club for one reason or another have failed to replace many many top players such as Lloris, Walker, rose, Toby, jan, Wanyama, dembele, Eriksen, Llorente etc etc and now we are a mess. You say it’s not Levy’s fault but he recruits people who recruit the players and he is 1/3 of our transfer committee.

Its not about not buying a striker this Jan its about squad management and forward planning and we’ve fucked up big time. Jose is yet another bad decision from Leby on the football side.

”and I thought you was a grown up“ nice English.

Perhaps you might like to answer my well made points rather than reply with sarcastic pointless statements such as “because Levy never played in any of the matches we lost”, says a lot. The chairman who is 1/3 of the transfer committee and hires the manager and decides on the transfer budget and policy and has ultimate sign off on trying to purchase a player, are you saying he has no influence on our results or more importantly our squad management and failure to capitalise on opportunities when we needed just a bit more clever investment to get us over the line?

appropriate

by the way, we got Frazer Campbell as part of the Berbatov deal because Brebatov was sold at the last minute.

where is all the money coming from to buy those that needed replacing?

Dillspur · Mar 10, 2020

Lighty64 said:
because Levy never played in any of the matches we lost

Honestly I've had enough of this argument. He's been I charge for our longest period without trophies, he hires and fires the managers and buys the players.

When do you start questioning the man at the top? Genuine question.

Because eventually the buck has to stop with him.

fishhhandaricecake · Mar 10, 2020

jonnyh said:
Didn’t Levy want Van Gaal the summer we hired Poch and it was only after he took the Netherlands to the World Cup semis that Unitrd came in for him and so we turned to Poch instead? Arguably our best manager in the last 30 years was our second choice and not the big name Levy wanted at the time. Unfortunately it looks like Levy this time went with the big established name in Mourinho when again we should’ve been looking at a young, progressive manager who could build on what Poch had done.

His managerial hires have been pretty appalling to be honest :
Hoddle - fan favourite but didn’t take us forwards and never been successful as a club manager
Santini - didn’t speak English, was awful, what was he thinking?
Jol - LOVED HIM some of best times as a fan with big MJ but he was hired by luck as he was assistant manager, then he was brutal given his marching orders during a game after all he’d done for the club.
Ramos - did well at Sevilla but again didn’t speak any English, got us a lucky league cup but was swiftly replaced after nearly relegating us in the league
Redknapp - I get this one as we were rock bottom and needed a hype man to get us out of trouble, turns out he’s actually a pretty good experienced manager who’d have thought it hey and got us playing some incredible football and took us on a CL journey, Levy then gave him Saha & Nelson at a pivotal moment for a title challenge. HR flirted with the England job but he was let go too soon and not sufficiently backed when he was just building something good
AVB - was awful at Chelsea, again what was he thinking trying to be clever getting one over on Chelsea, it was never going to work, he was damaged goods
Poch - transformed our club but was only hired as a 2nd choice after Man.U got LVG however credit where it’s due he was on the shortlist and hired so ok good hire but then again not backed sufficiently and let go before could be given time for a proper re-build
Jose - so far looks like an awful awful decision, he’s more and more showing he’s a busted flush and more importantly he’s adding to the negativity around the club on and off the pitch, terrible fit for us and injuries aside he’s going to cause us to go backwards, too early to say but probably another one Levy has got wrong.

i make that 8 managers and only 2-3 of them were decent appointments. Don’t even get me started on the missed opportunities of player recruitment over the years.

as I’ve said off the pitch, stadium, training ground etc amazing, transfers, squad management, manager hires etc all very questionable and this mess of a season shows what a lack of a plan we have and why levy should be no where near the football matters of this club any longer.

Lighty64 · Mar 10, 2020

Twizzle said:
I think Enic are at the stage where they just have to spend on player transfers, despite what Levy said last week..

We went two summers without spending a cent and had UCL footy so they made a fair profit in those years but with the downward spiral that we are now in, if they dont spend big we will continue the downward trend and possibly lose some important players who have bigger ambitions that to just line their pockets. That means they will not be making the big money that they had been making over those couple of years.

This of course, assumes that they are more concerned about making money than winning games which may be the case as evidenced by not investing in a striker as we seemed to get away with winning with attacking mids.

What they dont seem to understand is that you have to win games to make money.

2018 yep the 2nd one being?

spurslenny · Mar 10, 2020

Levy/Enic's attitude to achieving in football is to ask a golden goose (Poch) to excavate a hole the size of a swimming pool (win the Prem/CL/any trophy)with a spork (Davies, Aurier, Winks etc)

Any idiot can see that boat dont float.

All Poch wanted was several decent sized shovels and a mini JCB.

Lighty64 · Mar 10, 2020

Dillspur said:
Honestly I've had enough of this argument. He's been I charge for our longest period without trophies, he hires and fires the managers and buys the players.

When do you start questioning the man at the top? Genuine question.

Because eventually the buck has to stop with him.

when we are in a financial position, and then don't buy players for a window

the only reason that we had a lean 10 seasons was down to playing in a small stadium. with building the stadium how did you expect them to spend ridiculous amounts of money, to then pay not only the new signings wages but also up the wages of every other player?

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