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Jose Mourinho

How do you feel about Mourinho appointment

  • Excited - silverware here we come baby

    Votes: 666 46.7%
  • Meh - will give him a chance and hope he is successful

    Votes: 468 32.8%
  • Horrified - praying for the day he'll fuck off

    Votes: 292 20.5%

  • Total voters
    1,426

shelfboy68

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you conveniently didn't take this section in before posting especially as all those clubs had the finances and structure of their squads well in place before FFP came along

2.3 The current project:
• MC said much had been made of the Club’s project over the last five years. Where was that now?
• DL insisted that nothing had changed in terms of strategy and didn’t recall ever using the word ‘project’
• The Club is still focussed on bringing through youth players
• FFP has now made it impossible for rich investors to write a blank cheque to buy a league title and clubs generally are now required to spend according to their means
• The significant bad luck with injuries was mentioned as something out of anyone’s control
• The reality is that Spurs need to continue to compete at the highest level with the ambition to win


but hey ho least you managed another dig :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Those clubs will continue to win things before or after FFP mate city have just won another trophy last weekend, your living in Dreamland if you think this club is geared up for a period of success.
Read what Mr chairman says and it's all there he believes that there is nothing to suggest that investing heavily brings success, and that the club will continue its path to er success but the funds will be limited as no European football next year.
 
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coys200

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Why would you appoint Mourinho if you had no ambition it makes no sense. It’s like tricking some high maintenance gf into marrying you when you’re earning 20k a year. If Levy policy is to spend what we earn that will see an increase in spending from old WHL days but is it enough for Mourinho. If the policy was to carry on working within a relatively tight budget then why not just appoint another project manager. Instead they’ve gone out and appointed someone on £15m. Unless you’re gonna seriously back him it makes no sense at all from both sides.
 

monkeynick

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No one is mate, no one can be, but by the same token no one can be sure he's the wrong man...it's just lazy, pre-conceived nonsense from the fans who are just fucking itching to say 'I was right' just 4 months into his tenure.
Honest question Nick, do u want him to succeed here? or is that doomsday scenario you just painted what u want to happen?
I want us to win every single game we play irrespective of who the manager is
 

Havre

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I'm a big fan of mourinho but he got that first half against Burnley very wrong.
Putting aside the Skip Ndombele midfield disaster, every one of the 5 CB's were playing in the wrong position apart from Vertonghen, who can play LB or L wingback in an emergency.

Tanganga is no wing back. We knew that. He is however, a versitile defender and an acceptable defensive full back.
Sanchez is no wide CB/RB - we saw that against arsenal. The wider he plays, the worse he is. But centrally he is excellent.
Dier is no sweeper. He was poor against Wolves in this role (sorry JM) - we let in 3 after all, and the defence was disordered.
Alderweireld is no wide left CB/LB. He is right footed and can get away with playing LCB, but even then loses his long range passing.

I just wonder why JM did all this as he fixed these problems in the second half and also found a very effective midfield pairing of GLC and Dier. I want to see more of that if Dier gets away with his tantrum.

I might be completely off here, but isn't Sanchez better on the left for some reason? I seem to remember him playing there with Colombia. With him on the left we are not losing his ability to cross anyway so... As for him playing wide I am not sure if I agree. Sure you can find games he didn't play well having to cover more space, but unlike Alderweireld, Vertonghen and Dier he can run with forwards down the channel without being embarrassed. I don't like him as the middle man in a back 3. For me he is clearly most comfortable in a back 4.

Alderweireld should play at the right or in the middle for the reasons you mention.

Sanchez - Alderweireld - Dier would have been the "correct" way of setting them up in my opinion.

In hindsight he probably should have gone with Gedson in midfield alongside Skipp and N'Dombele. Not sure if he had that many other options if he wanted to give Winks (badly needed) and Lo Celso some rest before tomorrow.
 

HodisGawd

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Those clubs will continue to win things before or after FFP mate city have just won another trophy last weekend, your living in Dreamland if you think this club is geared up for a period of success.
Read what Mr chairman says and it's all there he believes that there is nothing to suggest that investing heavily brings no success, and that the club will continue its path to er success but the funds will be limited as no European football next year.
Will Man City continue to win things after?

We don't know that. As it stands, they can't win the CL because they are banned and may even face a Premier League points deduction. I don't think the tinpot they won last week either matters or is relevant.

Levy has run the club so we comply with FFP, thank god. We are built to build and we're not just sitting around waiting for the authorities to catch up with us.

As far as I see it, what is happening to Man City fully justifies the approach we've taken to drag ourselves into contention. Remember, we came second to a team of financial dopers.

Now, let's get over this current bad form and get back to winning ways.
 

wearetheparklane

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Apr 5, 2005
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So why under jose were we scoring more and amassing more points then we did under Poch. Just purely out of interest. Also do you think our squad is good enough. Do you think the likes of Davies only LB aurier only RB are Jan tanganga Foyth up to it/ready. What about Ndombele Gedson sessegnon and Skipp are they up to it and ready. Is Parrott ready. When we had a fully fit squad we scored 18 goals in 8 games. Our squad is so unbalanced. We also have very few athletes in the squad. We are weak and lack any real fight. Once we have a chance to actually get the squad balance right and players fit then we can really judge him. He come in and the defence is like Jekyll and hyde. Toby and Sanchez both keep having brain meltdowns as well as all three keepers.

Some fantastic posts from you today - thanks.
 

jay2040

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Aug 31, 2012
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Why would you appoint Mourinho if you had no ambition it makes no sense. It’s like tricking some high maintenance gf into marrying you when you’re earning 20k a year. If Levy policy is to spend what we earn that will see an increase in spending from old WHL days but is it enough for Mourinho. If the policy was to carry on working within a relatively tight budget then why not just appoint another project manager. Instead they’ve gone out and appointed someone on £15m. Unless you’re gonna seriously back him it makes no sense at all from both sides.

Agree. I believe there was ITK stating that Joe Lewis had a hard on for Jose and was the driving force behind him being appointed which can only be a good thing!
 

shelfboy68

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Will Man City continue to win things after?

We don't know that. As it stands, they can't win the CL because they are banned and may even face a Premier League points deduction. I don't think the tinpot they won last week either matters or is relevant.

Levy has run the club so we comply with FFP, thank god. We are built to build and we're not just sitting around waiting for the authorities to catch up with us.

As far as I see it, what is happening to Man City fully justifies the approach we've taken to drag ourselves into contention. Remember, we came second to a team of financial dopers.

Now, let's get over this current bad form and get back to winning ways.
These clubs will continue to win things that won't change do you suddenly think Madrid or Barcelona are going to be overtaken by getafe or Bilbao.
And why should we sneer at the league cup by calling it tinpot this is coming from a club that can't win an argument in an empty room.
Personally I would have been more than happy with winning that instead of finishing just above mid table which is beckoning for us maybe our ambition is tinpot.
 

homer hotspur

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Of course it's not impossible that Jose will walk at some point in the summer of his own choosing if he sees no prospect of the club meeting his ambitions and we are not in Europe. I know the finances involved make this unlikely but , if the board aren't sure either, a mutual agreement is quite possible.
 

Colonel Dax

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Jul 24, 2008
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Why would you appoint Mourinho if you had no ambition it makes no sense. It’s like tricking some high maintenance gf into marrying you when you’re earning 20k a year. If Levy policy is to spend what we earn that will see an increase in spending from old WHL days but is it enough for Mourinho. If the policy was to carry on working within a relatively tight budget then why not just appoint another project manager. Instead they’ve gone out and appointed someone on £15m. Unless you’re gonna seriously back him it makes no sense at all from both sides.

Perhaps Levy thought Jose could improve (in his eyes) an under-performing squad? And Jose bought into that? Thats the only explanation I can think of. It's cheaper to hire Mourinho for £15m per year than spend £200m on a squad overhaul. The reality is that the squad is tired, stale and deficient in key areas and this has been exposed by recent injuries. A change in head coach wasn't enough. We also need to invest in players - unfortunately with our approach in the market I can't see us doing enough to become league challengers again.
 

spursfan77

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Agree. I believe there was ITK stating that Joe Lewis had a hard on for Jose and was the driving force behind him being appointed which can only be a good thing!

Lewis was the one who pushed for Poch too if my memory serves me right.
 

spursfan77

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Perhaps Levy thought Jose could improve (in his eyes) an under-performing squad? And Jose bought into that? Thats the only explanation I can think of. It's cheaper to hire Mourinho for £15m per year than spend £200m on a squad overhaul. The reality is that the squad is tired, stale and deficient in key areas and this has been exposed by recent injuries. A change in head coach wasn't enough. We also need to invest in players - unfortunately with our approach in the market I can't see us doing enough to become league challengers again.

Not immediately but Levy won't want us to miss out on Champions League two years in a row. Look what it has done to Arsenal. He might not like spending money but he's not a complete idiot. He know being in the champions league is the only way to grow the club.
 

Spurslove

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Jul 6, 2012
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Why would you appoint Mourinho if you had no ambition it makes no sense. It’s like tricking some high maintenance gf into marrying you when you’re earning 20k a year. If Levy policy is to spend what we earn that will see an increase in spending from old WHL days but is it enough for Mourinho. If the policy was to carry on working within a relatively tight budget then why not just appoint another project manager. Instead they’ve gone out and appointed someone on £15m. Unless you’re gonna seriously back him it makes no sense at all from both sides.

Well that's actually a very good question, but I would imagine that when Levy first discussed the job on offer with JM, the subject of transfers must have come up in conversation, and in fact, may have been one of the main reasons Mourinho made it clear he wanted to joing us.

I don't think it's realistic to assume automatically that Mourinho expects and demands hundreds of millions of pounds to spend from all the Chairmen and club owners he works with. He may be many things, but he's not an idiot and by the same token, neither is Daniel Levy. He'll know more than anyone else how much the lack of Champions League football would hurt us next season (in more ways than one) so God forbid, if we don't get through tomorrow night, contingency plans will already have been made to 'shuffle the pack' regarding players as a matter of urgency and as far as that goes, I'm sure he and Mourinho are on exactly the same page. Being the major club we are these days, we can't be without major European football for more than even one season.

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shelfboy68

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Perhaps Levy thought Jose could improve (in his eyes) an under-performing squad? And Jose bought into that? Thats the only explanation I can think of. It's cheaper to hire Mourinho for £15m per year than spend £200m on a squad overhaul. The reality is that the squad is tired, stale and deficient in key areas and this has been exposed by recent injuries. A change in head coach wasn't enough. We also need to invest in players - unfortunately with our approach in the market I can't see us doing enough to become league challengers again.
A read through of the supporters club meeting tells you we won't be challenging for much other than revenue of the year award.
I really don't know why the trust bothers to attend become all they get is bluff and miss information, plus the board are not interested in what fan's want so why continue to engage.
 

Colonel Dax

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Not immediately but Levy won't want us to miss out on Champions League two years in a row. Look what it has done to Arsenal. He might not like spending money but he's not a complete idiot. He know being in the champions league is the only way to grow the club.

Agree with you - he's not an idiot and must've realised by now that the squad isn't good enough. Problem is we need minimum 5 players this upcoming summer (IMO) and that won't be cheap. Judging by the recent Tottenham Trust meeting minutes, where Levy talks about a lack of CL next season impacting our spending plans, I'm not sure we are going to see a significant outlay. He's keeping his cards close to his chest which is to be expected but I can't help thinking he's also getting his excuses in early (and that's before even mentioning how much Covid-19 will affect us).
 
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fedupyid

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Can anyone explain to me then why we so rubbish against Chelsea at home. Son and Kane both played we had only Lloris out and deserved to lose.

Mourinho’s Spurs was completely outplayed by Chelsea. Then we rubbish over the rest of the Christmas period. We have been playing the worst football I have ever seen after his new manager bump in points. The fact is I am ignoring all our performances before Wolves they do not represent Mourinho’s style of football
 

PLTuck

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Can anyone explain to me then why we so rubbish against Chelsea at home. Son and Kane both played we had only Lloris out and deserved to lose.

Mourinho’s Spurs was completely outplayed by Chelsea. Then we rubbish over the rest of the Christmas period. We have been playing the worst football I have ever seen after his new manager bump in points. The fact is I am ignoring all our performances before Wolves they do not represent Mourinho’s style of football

Really?

The football was far worse under Sherwood, AVB, Santini, and Graham.

Jeez talk about hyperbole.
 

14/04/91

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Wonder what Mourinho’s response to losing Kovacic, Jorginho and Kante would have been yesterday??
Play Zouma/Christensen as an auxiliary defensive midfielder or additional centre half?? Or throw in an 18 year kid to be catalyst for a fantastic performance?
 

spursfan77

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Agree with you - he's not an idiot and must've realised by now that the squad isn't good enough. Problem is we need minimum 5 players this upcoming summer (IMO) and that won't be cheap. Judging by the recent Tottenham Trust meeting minutes, where Levy talks about a lack of CL next season impacting our spending plans, I'm not sure we are going to see a significant outlay. He's keeping his cards close to his chest which is to be expected but I can't help thinking he's also getting his excuses in early (and that's before even mentioning how much Covid-19 will affect us).

Doesn't bother me. Just get the right players in. They don't have to be the most expensive. We recruited better when out of the CL, maybe we will again.
 
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