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Man City [Now Not] Banned From UCL For 2 years

kaz Hirai

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Why couldn’t this be Liverpool instead :cry:

My hatred for pool has lessened somewhat in recent months.
You just gotta smile and tip your hat to them.

Proper run club
Great manager
No financial doping, had to sell big players and bought well
 
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teok

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Their fans are fucking unbearable though. I don't really mind the city fans.
 

BehindEnemyLines

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Delayed, but ultimately failed to block brexit. Just caused huge time delays and a lot of cost and damage to our economy with the uncertainty it caused....... It may in fact have made a de-facto no deal more likely as it has compressed the amount of time left to negotiate trade.
 

Danners9

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Whats the relevance of the last sentence of that tweet?
Anyone?
My understanding of it is that they share the same offices. Not in the sense they work for the same company as if it were a firm of solicitors, but as a QC they operate independently and share facilities close to a court (happy to be corrected if this isn't the case..). Saw the tweet yesterday and found it amusing that you could have the defence working across the room from the guy who found them guilty in the first place.

 

Lighty64

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My understanding of it is that they share the same offices. Not in the sense they work for the same company as if it were a firm of solicitors, but as a QC they operate independently and share facilities close to a court (happy to be corrected if this isn't the case..). Saw the tweet yesterday and found it amusing that you could have the defence working across the room from the guy who found them guilty in the first place.


so he is defending a club, owned by a sheik from a country that's pretty bad on the human rights front. going from what's on bluemoon he is charging them 20k a day, hope he puts a poor argument over so they lose because he doesn't like the way people are treated in the owners homeland:LOL::LOL::LOL:
 

buckley

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There is more than a few that think they have done nothing wrong . They think if you have the money you should be allowed to invest as much as you like . There may be some truth in this but the fact is that the top clubs have earned there wealth by years of either success on the field of play or by astute money management . To allow anybody to lets say" flash the cash " just makes a mockery of the whole history of football and if these oil rich and oligarchs are allowed to spend spend spend football for me is finished .
Financial power in my eyes must be earned . Not forgetting that partly FFP will go a long way to ensure we get no more clubs like Bury going to the wall . Part of me says "I would like a rich owner who with the power of his money we will get year in year out success" but on reflection it would be meaning less .
 

Dillspur

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There is more than a few that think they have done nothing wrong . They think if you have the money you should be allowed to invest as much as you like . There may be some truth in this but the fact is that the top clubs have earned there wealth by years of either success on the field of play or by astute money management . To allow anybody to lets say" flash the cash " just makes a mockery of the whole history of football and if these oil rich and oligarchs are allowed to spend spend spend football for me is finished .
Financial power in my eyes must be earned . Not forgetting that partly FFP will go a long way to ensure we get no more clubs like Bury going to the wall . Part of me says "I would like a rich owner who with the power of his money we will get year in year out success" but on reflection it would be meaning less .

Agreed. It's also 1 thing to go out and spend 200-300m but another when you can't actually afford to pay those players without being held up by dodgy sponsorship deals or rich owners pumping more in, and I think that is what 's being forgotten by many in the media.

I also don't think they are "self sufficient", take away CL football and they would have posted loses of 90m last year, if the ban is up held, they are going to have a 100-200m hole on their books, I think they are panicking because they will be in a massive FFP hole.
 

Colonel Dax

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Delayed, but ultimately failed to block brexit. Just caused huge time delays and a lot of cost and damage to our economy with the uncertainty it caused....... It may in fact have made a de-facto no deal more likely as it has compressed the amount of time left to negotiate trade.

Lord Pannick QC didn't "try to stop Brexit twice". That's typical Daily Mail hysterical claptrap. He represented Gina Miller in her two cases against the government - the first to secure Parliament a say in the Brexit process during the then May government's tenure and the second to stop the Boris Johnson led government from proroguing Parliament. Both cases were successful, and particularly in the second case were absolutely needed. Whatever your stance on the Brexit debate, the law must be upheld.
 

spursfan77

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Just read this on the Athletic by ornstein

Clubs want City punished but not relegated

While the Premier League decide whether to punish Manchester City for the FFP breaches that have seen them banned from the Champions League for two seasons (subject to the appeal the club are confident they will win), City’s rivals are torn on what they want to see happen to them.

The clubs The Athletic has spoken to say City need to be punished for breaking the rules. They also feel that the prices City paid for players inflated the market and meant they had to overpay as a result. That applies to City signing youth players and coaches too. There is also unhappiness at what other clubs feel is aggressive PR being used by City regarding the UEFA ban and their reluctance to accept they have broken the rules.

However, the clubs believe talk of relegation from the Premier League is a step too far and that City are good for the competition and brand. They feel the Abu Dhabi takeover has been broadly positive for English and European football. And that relegating City would turn the Premier League into ‘a bit of a circus’.

While some of City’s rivals will be pushing for harsh punishments, other clubs are concerned that the league shouldn’t listen to those protestations and instead make an independent decision on any sanctions.
 

elfy

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Whats the relevance of the last sentence of that tweet?
Anyone?

Absolutely nothing, Barristers are self employed and work out of 'Chambers' - basically a set of offices in a building with other self employed barristers where certain functions such as a clerk can be pooled and shared between multiple seperate and independant barristers.

In criminal law, becuase barristers both prosecute and defend on a 'taxi rank' basis - i.e first job that comes in goes to the next waiting barrister (no cherry picking cases) it is perfectly normal for both the prosecution barrister and defence barrister to share chambers.
 

SugarRay

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There is more than a few that think they have done nothing wrong . They think if you have the money you should be allowed to invest as much as you like . There may be some truth in this but the fact is that the top clubs have earned there wealth by years of either success on the field of play or by astute money management . To allow anybody to lets say" flash the cash " just makes a mockery of the whole history of football and if these oil rich and oligarchs are allowed to spend spend spend football for me is finished .
Financial power in my eyes must be earned . Not forgetting that partly FFP will go a long way to ensure we get no more clubs like Bury going to the wall . Part of me says "I would like a rich owner who with the power of his money we will get year in year out success" but on reflection it would be meaning less .


Thing is, it would be more bareable if it was a local man come good who had a lifelong dream to own his club and deliver them glory etc

It’s absolutely nothing like this. The owners didn’t even earn “their” obscene wealth either.
 

SugarRay

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Just read this on the Athletic by ornstein

Clubs want City punished but not relegated

While the Premier League decide whether to punish Manchester City for the FFP breaches that have seen them banned from the Champions League for two seasons (subject to the appeal the club are confident they will win), City’s rivals are torn on what they want to see happen to them.

The clubs The Athletic has spoken to say City need to be punished for breaking the rules. They also feel that the prices City paid for players inflated the market and meant they had to overpay as a result. That applies to City signing youth players and coaches too. There is also unhappiness at what other clubs feel is aggressive PR being used by City regarding the UEFA ban and their reluctance to accept they have broken the rules.

However, the clubs believe talk of relegation from the Premier League is a step too far and that City are good for the competition and brand. They feel the Abu Dhabi takeover has been broadly positive for English and European football. And that relegating City would turn the Premier League into ‘a bit of a circus’.

While some of City’s rivals will be pushing for harsh punishments, other clubs are concerned that the league shouldn’t listen to those protestations and instead make an independent decision on any sanctions.


Basically the rivals realise there’s still a shit ton of money they ( and the game ) can snaffle from the carefree owners of City and don’t want to rock the boat when it comes to pushing for punishment.

That’s the problem with football at the top level. No moral compass at all.

I said it before, their owners want a football club, maybe take City to the UAE league.
 

SugarRay

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My hatred for pool has lessened somewhat in recent months.
You just gotta smile and tip your hat to them.

Proper run club
Great manager
No financial doping, had to sell big players and bought well

They were sailing close to the wind before Henry turned up, FFP wise. Scummy side to them too, driving locals out the area around the ground.

Manager is great but an utter ****. No class whatsoever when you scratch the surface. Wait and see when they go back to losing games.
 
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