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Eric Dier

theShiznit

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Another one that I’m really worried about career wise something is up with him big time.
Poch seems to have broken a lot of players with his methods very similar to biesla
Perhaps that's what poch meant when he said "painful rebuild" he was going the bionic legs route... To replace the ones he broke.
 

fortworthspur

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hasnt been the same since his appendectomy 14 months ago but you could say the same about most everyone over the last year
 

jimbo

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I thought he looked a bit more mobile today, not great in possession though. Did his defensive job reasonably well. I think he needs more time after such a long and debilitating illness.
 

Ghost Hardware

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I thought he looked a bit more mobile today, not great in possession though. Did his defensive job reasonably well. I think he needs more time after such a long and debilitating illness.
I think I saw a stat saying he had the fourth highest pass completion and highest on our team. But I also could have miss read that. Ether way I feel he just isn't our future.
 

Goofster

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Unpopular oppinion I guess but thought Dier improved alot yesterday and was one of the more solid players on the pitch.
 

Cochise

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He got a lot of stick last night from where I was sitting. My issue was that he and Winks seemed to both want to occupy similar position's and it cost us in possession. This did improve though, especially after we went to a back two.

It'll be interesting to see what happens in the summer as he really could end up being sold. He's a squad option and if he were a better CB, I'd keep him as fourth choice CB/emergency DM. I think he and/or Foyth could be suprise sales in the summer in order to generate some cash.
 

Timberwolf

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It's kind of ironic that he's our only true remaining defensive midfielder in the squad, yet due to his immobility and dodgy passing we're weaker defensively with him in the side than without him. Lo Celso, who is ostensibly an attacking player, provides far more tenacity and defensive cover than Dier does these days.

He's either got to be permanently converted into a CB or sold. Maybe he could play the odd game covering in DM when we're really desperate (like yesterday) but he shouldn't be anywhere near the conversation on legitimate midfield options going forward.
 

nailsy

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Jul 24, 2005
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Like Jan it looks like his body has betrayed him. I don't know if it's something he can come back from.
 

Colonel Dax

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It's kind of ironic that he's our only true remaining defensive midfielder in the squad, yet due to his immobility and dodgy passing we're weaker defensively with him in the side than without him. Lo Celso, who is ostensibly an attacking player, provides far more tenacity and defensive cover than Dier does these days.

He's either got to be permanently converted into a CB or sold. Maybe he could play the odd game covering in DM when we're really desperate (like yesterday) but he shouldn't be anywhere near the conversation on legitimate midfield options going forward.

Agreed. Backup centre half or nothing at all IMO. Sounds harsh, but I reckon we should look to offload him in the summer and put the funds towards getting a proper DM / CM. Of course if he wants to dedicate himself to becoming a full time defender that's fine too.
 

For the love of Spurs

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Part of me wonders with our large pitch relative to the old stadium it means anyone who plays for us needs quite a good engine and perhaps suits fast counter attacking football. Fernandez yesterday looked the type of player to take to it, not sure Dier can.
 

BringBack_leGin

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I’m of the opinion that we’ve outgrown him but I don’t think current formations/ tactics are helping him. Dier was at us best when he was a DM, either 2 man or 3 man midfield, dropping between two centre backs when we attacked so that both fullbacks could bomb up the pitch. We are now playing a formation that, whether 352 or 4231/433, involves two centre backs and a full back who basically tucks in as a wide centre back, making Dier’s biggest strength obsolete and accentuating his flaws as our midfield need to be proactive and quick thinking the moment we have the ball.

His best position in this formation would be as the defensive RB to Aurier’s attacking RB, but would rely on Sessegnon being trusted to play as an attacking winger. Won’t happen, especially now that Davies is fit enough to be the defensive left back option again, meaning Tanganga might well be the defensive RB option going forward.
 

John48

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I thought his passing wasn't too bad when he had the ball, but he didn't have it that often & he generally looked slow & cumbersome.
 

kremlyn

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Just rewatched the game. He was much better when Jan went off. He really is tailor made for that role where he drops into the back 3. I get the disappointment with him but I also get the need to persevere. He also did the positional side of the double pivot well. He was never a great manipulator of the ball but he does do his screening work still. It's the aggression that is missing and I hope he'll get that back as he gets a run in the team. I've always liked him as a person and footballer, hopefully he gets his mojo back.
 
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